bluechip 359 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 This should provoke lively debate. Would Rangers and the Rangers community get a fairer crack of the whip if Scotland was independant? Not according to that other community. See below, straight from the horses mouth.http://www.catholictruthscotland.com...wsletter12.pdfAndrew McCann hit the nail on thehead with his article on independencein the September edition. As he said,there is already anti-Catholic bias inthe media and the bigotry at footballmatches is far and away mostly aimedat Celtic supporters. All the talk about“sectarianism” is misleading becauseScotland is more an anti-Catholic andan anti-Irish country than “sectarian”.That would get worse if we becameindependent.There has already been a case wherea defendant pleaded guilty to a“sectarian” assault that took place onlive TV and yet the jury still refused tofind him guilty. This proves there isinstitutionalised bigotry in Scotland,and, in fact, it is one of the examplesgiven by Andrew McCann in his article(see p.19, Issue No. 73).The SNP has always been known asa “Protestant” party, so it is very truethat we need to be careful what wevote for. It would be an own goal tovote for Scottish independence.David Martin, CoatbridgeI like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockney69 48 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Cant sack a manager without making an arse of it never mind run their own country ffsFuckem Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 More political shite - but if it leads to more people voting for independence great - lets leave it in the Bears Den. After all talking about them, politics and religion is what Rangers is all about! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 What a fanny, a clear anti catholic and anti Irish agenda in Scotland, he is having a laugh. The only reason that guy at tynecastle wasn't found guilty is because they went all gun blazing trying to prove it was motivated by sectarianism, when they could of just went for a straight forward attack. Look how many times the catholic church's is in the news about crucifying some part of the community and then you get jailed if you say something about them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARGER 339 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Your lead into the quoted article seems at odds with the said article. You have it wrong way round, or am I misreading it somewhere. And before anyone else says it " Bears Den?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Bear 283 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Hmm defendant pleads guilty but jury acquits, if you plead guilty you dispense with the need for a jury.Debate? Think it might get brutal in here, when can you quote the SNP and truth in the same sentence, in fact apply that to any political party. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 He offered to plead guilty to assault if the sectarian part was removed! The prosecution rejected the offer. He was, rightly, found not guilty of a sectarian assault. He was found guilty of a breach of the peace after the jury had deleted the word sectarian from the charge. Not exactly what the half-wit of a journalist seems to be claiming. Its not just the majority of politicians that seem to have difficulty with the truth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilko89 507 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 My eyes are burning after clicking your link. I don't believe in any sort of god but that has to be the most delusional cult ever. They think they are better than everyone and everything, hilarious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,041 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 It appears timothy is still peddling pish on this subject. Question for lurkers - please explain how catholic can be done for sectarian assault on another catholic. You lot are are so blinkered you cannot see the truth or you are thick as shit... Oops third option you are all brain washed and thick as shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilko89 507 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 It appears timothy is still peddling pish on this subject.Question for lurkers - please explain how catholic can be done for sectarian assault on another catholic. You lot are are so blinkered you cannot see the truth or you are thick as shit... Oops third option you are all brain washed and thick as shit.Forgot he was catholic as well which makes it even more ridiculous Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluenose1972 1,405 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 More political shite - but if it leads to more people voting for independence great - lets leave it in the Bears Den. After all talking about them, politics and religion is what Rangers is all about! Great? What the fuck are you on about? Being a Rangers fan you cannot be voting for independence? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosebrad 452 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Ok since when being a Rangers Fan determine what you should vote, get grip lads.Interesting post Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
77amurai 258 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I don't believe these atrocious laws discriminate against anyone for their religion, they discriminate against football fans.The only reason the prosecution were determined to get him on sectarian charges would have been due to Salmond breathing down their necks.It was the first clear case of their bullshit, anti-football laws being a fucking sham. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 See when people start mixing football with religious bias, party political bias and other non-relevant things, I quickly lose interest.I genuinely couldn't care less about the SNP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluenose1972 1,405 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 See when people start mixing football with religious bias, party political bias and other non-relevant things, I quickly lose interest.I genuinely couldn't care less about the SNP.Religion & Politics make football that bit more interesting. That's why religion & politics go with football all around the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertybobo 29 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Can't believe that wee rag is called "Catholic Truth". Never read so much lies in one small story.When are they going to print the truth about young boys being abused at their beloved Pacific Shelf 595? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Great? What the fuck are you on about? Being a Rangers fan you cannot be voting for independence?ThDo you mean - as a Rangers fan I should NOT be voting for independence ?ORWhy can't you vote for independence being a Rangers fan? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegummy 4,472 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Ok since when being a Rangers Fan determine what you should vote, get grip lads.Interesting postEver been to Ibrox? Unionism is the main theme of Rangers FFS, why do you think everyone sings Rule Britannia at every single game? Why do you think the club organises union jack card displays and officially celebrates the Act of Unions?So daft that some folk try to deny that Rangers is a unionist club when it's so blindingly obvious and proudly displayed at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Ever been to Ibrox? Unionism is the main theme of Rangers FFS, why do you think everyone sings Rule Britannia at every single game? Why do you think the club organises union jack card displays and officially celebrates the Act of Unions?So daft that some folk try to deny that Rangers is a unionist club when it's so blindingly obvious and proudly displayed at Ibrox.Some of our own fans would love to rewrite history if the could. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosebrad 452 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Ever been to Ibrox? Unionism is the main theme of Rangers FFS, why do you think everyone sings Rule Britannia at every single game? Why do you think the club organises union jack card displays and officially celebrates the Act of Unions? So daft that some folk try to deny that Rangers is a unionist club when it's so blindingly obvious and proudly displayed at Ibrox. AS A ST holder and have been for a very long time which make no difference in your response, however I have never sat at Ibrox and thought what should I vote in this coming election. Wait I will look at the flags and banners on display and then make a decision on how I vote, or maybe I will have a wee singalong and that might help me make my choice. Get grip, its narrow minded people like you that give us Rangers Fans bad reps. I vote whats best for me albeit Im not an SNP voter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,226 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 So the catholic church don't back the SNP? that would be enough reason for me to vote for them but they have been the insigators of the gagging of freedom of speech so that's just as good reason not to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
77amurai 258 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Some of our own fans would love to rewrite history if the could.Some of our fans just don't care about that side of supporting Rangers and that's not a new thing. My old man loved the club but didn't give two fucks about anyone's politics and he attended Ibrox for forty years. For some it's only about the football. That doesn't make them less of a fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegummy 4,472 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 AS A ST holder and have been for a very long time which make no difference in your response, however I have never sat at Ibrox and thought what should I vote in this coming election. Wait I will look at the flags and banners on display and then make a decision on how I vote, or maybe I will have a wee singalong and that might help me make my choice. Get grip, its narrow minded people like you that give us Rangers Fans bad reps. I vote whats best for me albeit Im not an SNP voterThe vast majority of Rangers fans who are against Scottish nationalism give the tiny minority who support it a bad name? Aye right then...I'm not saying anyone should change their mind because they see others flying flags, I'm questioning why the fuck someone who hates the union would want to follow a staunchly unionist club. I'm also saying it's ludicrous for those people to suggest that Rangers have nothing to do with politics when, in fact, the connection is deep rooted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Some of our fans just don't care about that side of supporting Rangers and that's not a new thing. My old man loved the club but didn't give two fucks about anyone's politics and he attended Ibrox for forty years. For some it's only about the football. That doesn't make them less of a fan.I never said that it makes anyone less of a fan. But generations of our fans did care about politics so what is the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
77amurai 258 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I never said that it makes anyone less of a fan. But generations of our fans did care about politics so what is the problem.Personally, I don't have a problem with it, I just don't think people wanting to move on from it are trying to rewrite history.It's just a different viewpoint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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