BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hopefully Rangers get the Gunners shares back , It would also be a great gesture by Rangers and the board if we gifted some Rangers shares to Arsenal ,imo anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The original world cup was stolen and was later retrieved. Perhaps getting our shares back will add similar intrigue to our history. Btw; fuck craig whyte, he's a lowlife piece of scum & canny wait for ticketus to get him to jail & mr big sorting him out in the shower, (probably mr big's a tim). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,729 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'm not against it, personally.I think it'd be better to have them back than to say we helped Arsenal out in a time of need, only to have our shares sold off by a crook. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Why don't we buy 16 new shares in Arsenal and ask Russian magnate Alisher Usmanov to swap the old shares for the newly-bought shares ( or whatever the relevant value is )? Then sue Whyte for the costs !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Well done Charles, I posted ages ago how important it was to get these shares back (and took a few pelters)Those shares are important for 3 reasons1) They have a value in themselves. (this is of relatively minor importance)2) They are an important part of our history and heritage. Why do other Bears have a problem with taking back these important mementoes that were effectively stolen from us ?3) They will help us renew a liason with one of the biggest teams in the country and Europe, one of which we had great traditions with throughout both our glorious histories. I consider myself priviliged to have attended the Centenary match we played against Arsenal to celebrate our first 100 years.See any negatives in above ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Waste of money , history behind them is gone , rather the money was used toward the general staff wage bill , much more meaning and more worthwhile.Are you suggesting we should allow our history to be taken away without a fight ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Meaningless? 100 years from now I'd hope our fans aren't sayin the same thing.I expect we would stilll be looking back on our even more glorious history and remembering the great Centenary game against Arsenal and hopefully how we retrieved the lost shares.It is our our heritage and history.Suppose they tried to take our titles, should we just wait a 100 years and forget it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christchurch Rangers 1,229 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I think it would be a great gesture and totally within the spirit of the club to get the shares backfor example:if some crook gets into your cherished home, steals items of great historical and sentimental value: items that are worth way way more than face value alone; items that represent a true bond of friendship, one that has grown and developed over the decades, and then flogs them off, then I think it is totally within the spirit of things to work your hardest to get those items back.just my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Still saddens me that Whyte sold those shares. The man will forever be a cunt and I wish no good on him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer 11 2,663 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 or we gift arsenal 1 share ? perhaps they would reciprocate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebestest 2,148 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Ok hold on, let me do the maths on this one. Usmanov bought 16 shares for 230,000, and only needs 21 more shares to own 30% of Arsenal? That means 16 shares is worth about 8% in Arsenal? We owned 8% of Arsenal? And sold it for peanuts?Somebody is talking shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,729 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Ok hold on, let me do the maths on this one. Usmanov bought 16 shares for 230,000, and only needs 21 more shares to own 30% of Arsenal? That means 16 shares is worth about 8% in Arsenal? We owned 8% of Arsenal? And sold it for peanuts?Somebody is talking shite.Usmanov owns something like 29.2% of Arsenal. I can't remember the exact figure but it's a tiny percentage left that he needs to bring it up to 30% Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddrock 107 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Are you suggesting we should allow our history to be taken away without a fight ?Where did I say that , Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Waste of money , history behind them is gone , rather the money was used toward the general staff wage bill , much more meaning and more worthwhile.Are you suggesting we should allow our history to be taken away without a fight ?You suggest the "history is gone", and suggesting an alternative to getting them back. I am sugesting we should fight back for those shares and the associated history.Those shares are part of our history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueyonder 11,158 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Ok hold on, let me do the maths on this one. Usmanov bought 16 shares for 230,000, and only needs 21 more shares to own 30% of Arsenal? That means 16 shares is worth about 8% in Arsenal? We owned 8% of Arsenal? And sold it for peanuts?Somebody is talking shite.I think he already had shares... we didn't own 8% of Arsenal ffs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 What about a representative from Arsenal presenting us with a brand new share certificate in the centre circle before the last game of the season ... a perfect end to the season of recovery Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWee BlueDevil 222 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Surely it is all about putting the Craig Whyte wrongs right. I'm all for it.It is a huge gesture not just to us fans but to a massive English club. I want Arsenal to know just how important those shares were to Rangers and our fans and that it was a low life shyster that sold them without the consent or knowledge of our support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,512 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Does anyone know what would have happened to the shares if Whyte never sold them? Would they have went to the creditors or would CG have bought them ect? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIJoe 98 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 A noble gesture and I wish him well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujolais 1,371 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It is indeed a noble gesture, however I cannot see the commercial sense in trying to get them back and certainly not using Rangers resources to do so while we are effectively trading at a loss. There are bigger priorities out there right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddrock 107 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 You suggest the "history is gone", and suggesting an alternative to getting them back. I am sugesting we should fight back for those shares and the associated history.Those shares are part of our history.I agree getting them back is right , What i meant was the damage has been done to the original history , and i think we still have bigger things to concentrate on right at this moment . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I agree getting them back is right , What i meant was the damage has been done to the original history , and i think we still have bigger things to concentrate on right at this moment .Understand your point about getting house in order first, and for me it is partly sentimental,but can also see the business/commercial possibilty of this move, not only on a PR basis, but in making some links to an EPL team, one which has influence in the European structures too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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