BlueAvenger 10,431 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 This is why I would support an away boycott if we are stuck in the 18 next year because any decision to do that will be based on milking our supporters for cash....where's the sporting integrity in that? Well said mate. Totally agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,299 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Coming at it from a different angle; should we be promoted at the expense of one of the top 2 clubs in division 3?How can we expect that?I agree for the good of Scottish Football we should probably be asked to join the "Championship" but that's a different matter. All the clubs would need to agree to that, currently it's not even on the agenda.IMO its simple, merge the 2 bodies immediately, don't change the leagues until start of 2014-2015 season. That way every club is fully aware of the relegation/promotion rules at the start of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
debear 603 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Was it not Stranraer that were meant to have voted 'no' to us in the SFL?No it was Raith/Clyde/Brechin/Airdrie/ depending on what moon is being howled at that particular day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_1974 204 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 “We are trying to change for the good of Scottish football and you are not going to please everyone.“We discussed the matter as a board but leapfrogging us wouldn’t be the way forward.”In other words, we are thinking about No 1 and no one else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearAbroad 42 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Sounds like someone is panicking they may miss out on the getting their share of the great Rangers gravy train next season!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I wish as a club we wouldn't take this stance, it just gives ammunition to our haters as it looks like we are demanding preferential treatment.They need us more than we need them,we should be sitting back waiting for them to come begging at our door.As soon as it hits home that they won't have a sponsor for their top league and a much reduced income from tv they will soon be looking for us.We are NOT demanding preferential treatment mate. Not even close. We want the promotion we deserve, so that the whole season has not been for nothing. Sporting integrity demands that a team that has earned promotion, be promoted.It's not even like we are asking for a new rule to be made up, or any old rules to be bent or broken. We just want them to follow their own bloody rules and also follow previous precedent. Is that really to much to ask for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
debear 603 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 These clubs are quite entitled to do what is best for theirselves.As long as they are honest that is why they are doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Coming at it from a different angle; should we be promoted at the expense of one of the top 2 clubs in division 3?How can we expect that?I agree for the good of Scottish Football we should probably be asked to join the "Championship" but that's a different matter. All the clubs would need to agree to that, currently it's not even on the agenda.IMO its simple, merge the 2 bodies immediately, don't change the leagues until start of 2014-2015 season. That way every club is fully aware of the relegation/promotion rules at the start of the season.Are the top few from division 3 not being added to the new middle tier? I was sure that they were.2 teams from div1 into new top tier makes 124 teams from div 3 going into new middle tier makes 12and the rest lumped in the bottom.^ I was sure that was how the proposal was set out, and it means that every other team in promotion places are probably gonna be promoted. Except Rangers and whomever finished 2nd in SFL3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 The great rangers gravy train and the TV money is what everyone is after. We generate all the income, but otherwise are hated and put down. Small minded clubs and jealousy play a big part in all of this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Coming at it from a different angle; should we be promoted at the expense of one of the top 2 clubs in division 3?How can we expect that?I agree for the good of Scottish Football we should probably be asked to join the "Championship" but that's a different matter. All the clubs would need to agree to that, currently it's not even on the agenda.IMO its simple, merge the 2 bodies immediately, don't change the leagues until start of 2014-2015 season. That way every club is fully aware of the relegation/promotion rules at the start of the season.So coming from your Angle , even though we win The 3rd Div ,you reckon we shouldn't be Promoted just the way Stranrear where .If you look at it like the way you are, then Dunfermline shouldn't have been Relegated, and should have stayed in the SPL instead of Dundee this Season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 No it was Raith/Clyde/Brechin/Airdrie/ depending on what moon is being howled at that particular day.Today it's Stranraer then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary2006 123 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I'm sick of hearing from these pub teams they bring nothing to the table.another statement from another chairman and nothing but self interest spews out only interested in our money.these fuckers have won the lottery having us in the sfl and they are going to try and hold onto us at all costs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 No it was Raith/Clyde/Brechin/Airdrie/ depending on what moon is being howled at that particular day.BOYCOTT THE MOON! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Are the top few from division 3 not being added to the new middle tier? I was sure that they were.2 teams from div1 into new top tier makes 124 teams from div 3 going into new middle tier makes 12and the rest lumped in the bottom.^ I was sure that was how the proposal was set out, and it means that every other team in promotion places are probably gonna be promoted. Except Rangers and whomever finished 2nd in SFL3.You're smoking too much mate There's already 12 in the top tier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alnic3856 358 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 He wants a slice of the Rangers pie next year, stranraer will be in the 18, this is the problem we face, remember when we slagged the chairmen of the SPL clubs for not doing what was financially in the best interests of their clubs? Well thats all this guy is doing, his statement isn't rude towards us he is looking out for his own, nothing wrong with it he wants to play Rangers next year for some dollar, this is the price we have to pay for being the biggest and most succesful club in the country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 The great rangers gravy train and the TV money is what everyone is after. We generate all the income, but otherwise are hated and put down. Small minded clubs and jealousy play a big part in all of this.We'll just have to continue to argue our case. It would seem that Rangers have a plausible example to put in an effort to convince people why we should be promoted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamgers 1,214 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Imo if we are to be in the 18 team set up i'd fucking boycott the away games , the greedy cunts are only interested in our fans money, they say some nice things about us but i suspect deep down inside, the majority fucking hate us, so i say, go fuck yourself and your shitey wee clubs! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,299 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Are the top few from division 3 not being added to the new middle tier? I was sure that they were.2 teams from div1 into new top tier makes 124 teams from div 3 going into new middle tier makes 12and the rest lumped in the bottom.^ I was sure that was how the proposal was set out, and it means that every other team in promotion places are probably gonna be promoted. Except Rangers and whomever finished 2nd in SFL3.12 already in SPL, 10 currently in SFL1 + 2 who get promoted from SFL2, 8 left in SFL2 + 10 in SFL3 make up 18 team league.I wouldn't expect to be promoted at expense of 2 teams in current SFL2. Have I got it wrong?The answer is to leave league changes until next year, they shouldn't be changing goalposts this late. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain1712 336 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 We are NOT demanding preferential treatment mate. Not even close. We want the promotion we deserve, so that the whole season has not been for nothing. Sporting integrity demands that a team that has earned promotion, be promoted.It's not even like we are asking for a new rule to be made up, or any old rules to be bent or broken. We just want them to follow their own bloody rules and also follow previous precedent. Is that really to much to ask for?I agree with what your saying mate I'm just commenting on the way it will be seen after the tarrier spin doctors have finished 'educating' the rest of the population through the media. We should just sit tight they do need us more than we need them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 12 already in SPL, 10 currently in SFL1 + 2 who get promoted from SFL2, 8 left in SFL2 + 10 in SFL3 make up 18 team league.I wouldn't expect to be promoted at expense of 2 teams in current SFL2.Have I got it wrong?The answer is to leave league changes until next year, they shouldn't be changing goalposts this late.nah it was me that had it wrong. But the winners of division 1 are being promoted yes? The winners of division 2 being promoted? the winners of division are not being promoted Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,299 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 So coming from your Angle , even though we win The 3rd Div ,you reckon we shouldn't be Promoted just the way Stranrear where .If you look at it like the way you are, then Dunfermline shouldn't have been Relegated, and should have stayed in the SPL instead of Dundee this Season.The Stranraer thing is totally different please tell me you can see that.As for Dunfermline/Dundee my logic would dictate the rules of promotion and relegation should be respected. For us to be promoted we would be taking the place of 8 teams above us, including the team who won promotion to that division.Is that right?As I said the league reconstruction should not take place until the following year, so everyone knows the situation at the start of the year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I agree with what your saying mate I'm just commenting on the way it will be seen after the tarrier spin doctors have finished 'educating' the rest of the population through the media.We should just sit tight they do need us more than we need them.Yeah, but i genuinely don't care what any of them think, "we should get what we deserve",<---- we heard that for almost 2 years now but used to mean we should be punished. Shouldn't we also "get what we deserve" when it benifits us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I don't see why the league bodies don;t go ahead with their merger, figure out if everyone votes for the structure and put it in place for the start of the following season. I'd have a helluva lot less problems with the reconstruction then.To nullify the work of the entire year is just wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,299 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I don't see why the league bodies don;t go ahead with their merger, figure out if everyone votes for the structure and put it in place for the start of the following season. I'd have a helluva lot less problems with the reconstruction then.To nullify the work of the entire year is just wrong.I completely agree. It's by far the most sensible solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,241 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Imo if we are to be in the 18 team set up i'd fucking boycott the away games , the greedy cunts are only interested in our fans money, they say some nice things about us but i suspect deep down inside, the majority fucking hate us, so i say, go fuck yourself and your shitey wee clubs! They all want a big payday, the SFL clubs won't be happy until every team's had their share of us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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