Charles Green tells Ally the Clubs expectations for next year

[Loyal-Bear 229]

Genuine couple of question for the op. Do you go to the games often and are you happy with what you see when attending?

[scarkev 3,540]

says the man who starts a post:

"The fact you are still going on about results just proves that you only read what you want to suit your chip on the shoulder agenda.....it's quite sad that a man of your age is so immature and linear in his thinking!"

You always get personal and love to preach others - pretty hypocritical really - and I may be boring #likeIcare - its a shame that supporting the manager is boring - but your posts with your Ally out agenda are quite volumious in nature and I suspect you love to have personal digs at me because I constantly pick you up on it.

You are a lost cause I'm afraid....I do sometimes wonder if even you believe in some of the nonsense you post! You should probably look up the meaning of preaching as well....what I was doing was making an observation....comments from you about "loyalty", "patience", "not real fans", etc is preaching....making your self out to be some kind of super fan and barring one or two the majority of sensible posters on here I'd hope can see right through you!

[OneDavidCooper 2,505]

Dear Ally,

We would like to thank you for securing the club and for delivering the SFL3 Championship. It is extremely pleasing to have taken the first step forward on our Journey back to the top.

It is with respect for your background with this club that we should lay down some clear targets for you to achieve next season if you are to remain as Manager going forward.

Clearly we must see an improvement in the style of play next year and the club expects to see something like the style of play shown by Barcalona, Swansea and of course our neighbours across the city, Celtic.

The club expect you to deliver the style of play mainly with the youth players you already have at our disposal. We do not wish to hinder your team building so you may sign any youth (under 18) that you want and we will provide some board and lodgings, and if we can get a training grant a small wage for these players. The club must take great care of future profits and as the youth are cheap that is the model we prefer.

We know that as a coach you did not get a full pre-season last year but we are fully prepared to fund a trip to the east coast, (I have heard Burntisland is lovely) and after the pre-season you and your coaching staff should have these players zinging passes around with slick one-twos and fully capable of destroying teams in SFL2 next season.

Additionally, we though we should make our targets clearly measurable so we believe that delivering the league title should be possible without any defeats, and in fact to even draw in this league would reflect badly on you, your staff and the whole infrastructure of the club. Target 1 is "No points Dropped".

As you will have coached the team through a full pre-season and as we have some ex-SPL players on our books we also feel that you should win the majority of the cup games as well. There was some debate at board level as to wether we should expect you to win all the cups but we do understand that our friends across the city, may prove stiff opposition, and so we will accept not winning the Scottish Cup (although we do expect a final appearence) as long as that final is against our friend we could tolerate a loss, this year. (Next year we expect a clean sweep of every competition we enter).

I must also reitterate that season ticket sales are down to the style of play so any dip in ticket sales can only reflect badly on you and your coaching staff so please ensure all our fans, get all they want, all of the time - this is imperative to my future wealth.

As you can see the club are fully behind you and please let me know of any further resources you may require and providing they are at zero cost or lower we shall endeavour to help. (Looking at the season before we took over we did like the Aluko Model of players paying to play for us).

Please also not that come the January transfer window any player that attracts financial interest from any other team is ligly to be sold so please ensure you have depth of new talent coming through.

Yours

Charles Green

Shitiest post of the year nomination.

[minstral 5,375]

What a load of pish.

[Chef 436]

Is that from green or a certain group on rm

[OneDavidCooper 2,505]

I note its the Ally Out Brigade that dont like this - I wonder what targets should be set for next season ? Is Ally allowed to draw or lose a game without multiple threads calling for his head, does every game need to be won by at least 3 goals to prevent multiple Ally out threads ? What targets do the Ally Out brigade think are acceptable ?

I note its the Ally Out Brigade that dont like this - I wonder what targets should be set for next season ? Is Ally allowed to draw or lose a game without multiple threads calling for his head, does every game need to be won by at least 3 goals to prevent multiple Ally out threads ? What targets do the Ally Out brigade think are acceptable ?

Point of order.

The people that want Ally out aren't setting any targets for next season because they don't want him here next season.

What is it about that you don't understand?

I love Ally and defended him passionately earlier in the season but, even with all the problems he's had to deal with, it is obvious to me now that I was wrong, badly wrong, and he isn't up to the job. He's a wonderful lad and I'll always be grateful and very appreciative of all he has done but he and we will be happier with a man in charge who can build a team which goes on to dominate Scottish football afresh. In my view, Ally is not that man.

So no targets for him next season from me.

[markem 7,287]

Barcelona, Swansea and Celtic?

And then I remembered the date...,.surely you jest?

[AlBear. 8,499]

You are a lost cause I'm afraid....I do sometimes wonder if even you believe in some of the nonsense you post! You should probably look up the meaning of preaching as well....what I was doing was making an observation....comments from you about "loyalty", "patience", "not real fans", etc is preaching....making your self out to be some kind of super fan and barring one or two the majority of sensible posters on here I'd hope can see right through you!

Why do you call everyone you disagree with "some kind of super fan" or words to that effect? It's getting really tedious. We all support in our own way. If you don't want to be judged on your support then don't judge others on theirs.

[scarkev 3,540]

Also to add.....having conflicting views is a healthy thing there is no problem with that! On here there is a divide on alot of issues....I have had many discussions with a variety of posters who have a very different view to mine on the success of this season, the direction we are going and the attributes of the manager but I can fully respect their views as they can appreciate mine without lowering their argument to question fans loyalty or resort to childish, condescending posts....the OP does this on a regular basis and I hope I'm not the only one getting sick of it!

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

Is that from green or a certain group on rm

I was going to sign it Scardev, Goat and Godfather but I though people would get the joke without needing that prompt! Thanks for noticing

[scarkev 3,540]

Why do you call everyone you disagree with "some kind of super fan" or words to that effect? It's getting really tedious. We all support in our own way. If you don't want to be judged on your support then don't judge others on theirs.

Read above!

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

Point of order.

The people that want Ally out aren't setting any targets for next season because they don't want him here next season.

What is it about that you don't understand?

I love Ally and defended him passionately earlier in the season but, even with all the problems he's had to deal with, it is obvious to me now that I was wrong, badly wrong, and he isn't up to the job. He's a wonderful lad and I'll always be grateful and very appreciative of all he has done but he and we will be happier with a man in charge who can build a team which goes on to dominate Scottish football afresh. In my view, Ally is not that man.

So no targets for him next season from me.

Fair Point - but wether its Ally or A.N. Other - what targets would you set ? or is just any manager good enough as long as its not Ally ?

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

Why do you call everyone you disagree with "some kind of super fan" or words to that effect? It's getting really tedious. We all support in our own way. If you don't want to be judged on your support then don't judge others on theirs.

Ouch! - Scardev will give you a lecture for that !

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

Barcelona, Swansea and Celtic?

And then I remembered the date...,.surely you jest?

It was meant to be a light hearted piece (sort of a play on April 1 and the constant Ally must do this stuff) - I forgot people take everything so literal on RM - (note the responses!)

[AlBear. 8,499]

Read above!

Read it yourself you sanctimonious arse.

[scarkev 3,540]

Ouch! - Scardev will give you a lecture for that !

Who is this scardev? He sounds like a knowledgable fellow?

You two are really quite sad.....the fact is the reason anyone including myself use terms such as super fan in this context is because people like yourself can't discuss sensibly the merits of your opinion without questioning the loyalty of fans who don't agree with you.....you both also attack fans who show their displeasure at the performances like you know better and the latest is the attack on fans who aren't creating an "atmosphere" despite the performances! You both also post preachy comments stating how we should feel and act about our situation.... Even when you have no real purposeful response you resort to childish and condescending responses like the OP and boys that is truly pathetic!

[bombaybadboy08 15,660]

[scarkev 3,540]

Read it yourself you sanctimonious arse.

Great response sweetheart! You really are a learned and intellectually superior individual to us all!

[Chef 436]

Fuck it, 5 a sides ally oot v ally in. Ally oot may have a big sub bench though

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

Also to add.....having conflicting views is a healthy thing there is no problem with that! On here there is a divide on alot of issues....I have had many discussions with a variety of posters who have a very different view to mine on the success of this season, the direction we are going and the attributes of the manager but I can fully respect their views as they can appreciate mine without lowering their argument to question fans loyalty or resort to childish, condescending posts....the OP does this on a regular basis and I hope I'm not the only one getting sick of it!

I agree - I regularly pick you up on your dis-continuity re supporting Ally and I do think that (many off) your posts are disloyal to him - and yet it is only my opinion, but it is 'my' opinion! even if my opinion is childish (in your eyes) and even if my writing style is condesending (in your eyes) I believe I have both the right to express my opinion and to espress it as I see fit - and unlike you I very seldom make it personal - something you do seem to like to do.

[Yorkie Bear 18]

I thought the OP was amusing. I was then amazed that others took such offence. Sometimes we need to lighten up and share a laugh at our own expense. Mind you, if others laugh at us, that's a different ball game entirely. We need to be able to differentiate.

[The Godfather 72,000]

What a fucking embarrassment

[AlBear. 8,499]

Who is this scardev? He sounds like a knowledgable fellow?

You two are really quite sad.....the fact is the reason anyone including myself use terms such as super fan in this context is because people like yourself can't discuss sensibly the merits of your opinion without questioning the loyalty of fans who don't agree with you.....you both also attack fans who show their displeasure at the performances like you know better and the latest is the attack on fans who aren't creating an "atmosphere" despite the performances! You both also post preachy comments stating how we should feel and act about our situation.... Even when you have no real purposeful response you resort to childish and condescending responses like the OP and boys that is truly pathetic!

Grow up pal.

Care to prove your allegations? If you can prove where I have questioned peoples loyalty, attacked fans etc

I merely try to reflect how I support my club if you infer some sort of inferiority over that then that's your issue.

[cushynumber 25,178]

I dont really see the point of this topic other than to start another "ally must go" type argument...originating from an OP that obviously supports him - which seems a bit peculiar.

Maybe its just to subtle for me.

[AlBear. 8,499]

Great response sweetheart! You really are a learned and intellectually superior individual to us all!

Well I didn't go to University like you, but that doesn't make you better does it?