Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I just noticed that 'they' have signed a sponsorship deal with E-Lites - the battery operated cigs - and I think I would be uncomfortable with us taking cash for that type of promotion (and while a case can be made that they help reduce smoking - I feel they actually promote it) (I also know that because 'they' have done it we will be naturally against it!).But it got me thinking about who would we be happy sponsoring us and who not - The whole payday loan company thing makes me boak and I cetainly would NOT buy any shirt or Rangers goods with WONGA on it (other pay day shysters available) or the like.BUT while taking a moral stance against fag substitutes and payday loan sharks I have no issues with DRINK! company sponsorship at all!!So who would you hate sponsoring the company and who would you like?I think Virgin would be great sponsors - especially of the UB/TBO section of support.Slumberland could sponsor where I sit - GF!Greggs could sponsor the food and 'Macallan' the DRINK!HMRC (or any bank) could sponsor the Board (Money grabbing b*****ds)I dont think I would like the 'Green Deal' sponsoring the club, nor Babcock (cause the name makes me laugh) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
As I Was Walking.... 100 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Surely the only ethical dilemma in not taking any sponsorship deal is someone else then gets the cash and we lose out on some needed funds ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockwellGers 14,790 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Mate, who gives a fuck who sponsors 'them'?Also, I think wanting sponsorship which is both lucrative and ethical is a bit unrealistic Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Orange would have been the most obvious sponsor for us because every real Rangers fan likes, or is a member of the Orange Order.EE doesnt quite have the same ring to it though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Mate, who gives a fuck who sponsors 'them'?Also, I think wanting sponsorship which is both lucrative and ethical is a bit unrealisticSo cash at any price - got it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen_da_best 2,034 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 People wouldn't want a payday loan company, but are happy to have a drinks company sponsor us? Really?I know a LOT more people's life's who have been ruined by drink, than payday loan companies. At the end of the day these companies offer a service, and every jackey bastard under the sun would take full advantage if they were happy to let you pay them back whenever. I know a boy who borrowed 600 quid of wonga, didn't pay them back on time and they got in touch with him and set up a payment plan over the next 2 months to pay them back and all he got what was an extra 80 quid fine, which is hardly unreasonable? If you don't make repayments which you agreed to then tough luck, you agreed to it at the end of the day. Rangers charge an extra 15 quid a month if you miss a payment on your season ticket. I got charged 15 quid by them because I got a new bank card and didn't know I had to tell them, shall I boycott that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Orange would have been the most obvious sponsor for us because every real Rangers fan likes, or is a member of the Orange Order.EE doesnt quite have the same ring to it though.LOL - I always likes 'The furures bright the futures orange!' (but it wasnae!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 People wouldn't want a payday loan company, but are happy to have a drinks company sponsor us? Really?I know a LOT more people's life's who have been ruined by drink, than payday loan companies. At the end of the day these companies offer a service, and every jackey bastard under the sun would take full advantage if they were happy to let you pay them back whenever. I know a boy who borrowed 600 quid of wonga, didn't pay them back on time and they got in touch with him and set up a payment plan over the next 2 months to pay them back and all he got what was an extra 80 quid fine, which is hardly unreasonable? If you don't make repayments which you agreed to then tough luck, you agreed to it at the end of the day. Rangers charge an extra 15 quid a month if you miss a payment on your season ticket. I got charged 15 quid by them because I got a new bank card and didn't know I had to tell them, shall I boycott that?lighten the fk up man - its a Friday! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen_da_best 2,034 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 lighten the fk up man - its a Friday! I'm getting old Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 " I know a boy who borrowed 600 quid of wonga, didn't pay them back on time"I know a boy who borrowed 27m of a company called Ticketus.................and didnt pay it back either....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Too many illiberal leftists, in our support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 So, there could be a purpose to having a bigger Board after all. We could have a few of them overseeing the ethical funding executive decisions being made! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 People wouldn't want a payday loan company, but are happy to have a drinks company sponsor us? Really?I know a LOT more people's life's who have been ruined by drink, than payday loan companies. At the end of the day these companies offer a service, and every jackey bastard under the sun would take full advantage if they were happy to let you pay them back whenever. I know a boy who borrowed 600 quid of wonga, didn't pay them back on time and they got in touch with him and set up a payment plan over the next 2 months to pay them back and all he got what was an extra 80 quid fine, which is hardly unreasonable? If you don't make repayments which you agreed to then tough luck, you agreed to it at the end of the day. Rangers charge an extra 15 quid a month if you miss a payment on your season ticket. I got charged 15 quid by them because I got a new bank card and didn't know I had to tell them, shall I boycott that?Thatcherite Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binsy08 362 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I wouldn't want to be sponsored by Tampax, all their deals have strings attached. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 We have a deal in place with E-Lites aswell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Ethics in football? That ship has sailed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosebrad 452 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Personally speaking couldn't give a shit who sponsored us as long as they put a shit load of cash in our bank Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonok 1,245 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I just noticed that 'they' have signed a sponsorship deal with E-Lites - the battery operated cigs - and I think I would be uncomfortable with us taking cash for that type of promotion (and while a case can be made that they help reduce smoking - I feel they actually promote it) (I also know that because 'they' have done it we will be naturally against it!).But it got me thinking about who would we be happy sponsoring us and who not - The whole payday loan company thing makes me boak and I cetainly would NOT buy any shirt or Rangers goods with WONGA on it (other pay day shysters available) or the like.BUT while taking a moral stance against fag substitutes and payday loan sharks I have no issues with DRINK! company sponsorship at all!!So who would you hate sponsoring the company and who would you like?I think Virgin would be great sponsors - especially of the UB/TBO section of support.Slumberland could sponsor where I sit - GF!Greggs could sponsor the food and 'Macallan' the DRINK!HMRC (or any bank) could sponsor the Board (Money grabbing b*****ds)I dont think I would like the 'Green Deal' sponsoring the club, nor Babcock (cause the name makes me laugh)After being a smoker for 40 odd years e-cigs helped me stop it, nothing else worked and believe me I triedjust about every other cessation method. I also know of quite a few other folk having success using e-cigsso for me they are not unethical they are a bloody miracle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Fucks this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Fucks this?BP9's Friday shit post,I agree with that petition on OT on BP9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,309 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I just noticed that 'they' have signed a sponsorship deal with E-Lites - the battery operated cigs - and I think I would be uncomfortable with us taking cash for that type of promotion (and while a case can be made that they help reduce smoking - I feel they actually promote it) (I also know that because 'they' have done it we will be naturally against it!).But it got me thinking about who would we be happy sponsoring us and who not - The whole payday loan company thing makes me boak and I cetainly would NOT buy any shirt or Rangers goods with WONGA on it (other pay day shysters available) or the like.BUT while taking a moral stance against fag substitutes and payday loan sharks I have no issues with DRINK! company sponsorship at all!!So who would you hate sponsoring the company and who would you like?I think Virgin would be great sponsors - especially of the UB/TBO section of support.Slumberland could sponsor where I sit - GF!Greggs could sponsor the food and 'Macallan' the DRINK!HMRC (or any bank) could sponsor the Board (Money grabbing b*****ds)I dont think I would like the 'Green Deal' sponsoring the club, nor Babcock (cause the name makes me laugh)I don't think that is unethical at all.They certainly encourage continued Nicotine addiction, however that in itself isn't unhealthy. Alcohol advertising is much worse; far more detrimental to your personal health? There are also huge drains on the NHS and Police associated with alcohol.So your argument is seriously flawed I'm afraid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,512 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I think these cigs are less dangerous than alcohol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,309 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 People wouldn't want a payday loan company, but are happy to have a drinks company sponsor us? Really?I know a LOT more people's life's who have been ruined by drink, than payday loan companies. At the end of the day these companies offer a service, and every jackey bastard under the sun would take full advantage if they were happy to let you pay them back whenever. I know a boy who borrowed 600 quid of wonga, didn't pay them back on time and they got in touch with him and set up a payment plan over the next 2 months to pay them back and all he got what was an extra 80 quid fine, which is hardly unreasonable? If you don't make repayments which you agreed to then tough luck, you agreed to it at the end of the day. Rangers charge an extra 15 quid a month if you miss a payment on your season ticket. I got charged 15 quid by them because I got a new bank card and didn't know I had to tell them, shall I boycott that?It's not black and white with these companies I'm afraid. While I agree they provide a valuable service it is often the most vulnerable in society who need to use them.The interest rates are high because the intention is that the loans are repaid quickly, unfortunately because they lend to anyone it is inevitable people who cannot afford to pay it back will apply for loans. Yes they shouldn't be taking the loans we all appreciate that, however the onus should be on the company not to lend to people who can't pay them back.Just like a reputable mortgage company will only give you a mortgage for 2.4-3 times your salary.That is why they are seen to prey on the most vulnerable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,512 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 It's not black and white with these companies I'm afraid. While I agree they provide a valuable service it is often the most vulnerable in society who need to use them.The interest rates are high because the intention is that the loans are repaid quickly, unfortunately because they lend to anyone it is inevitable people who cannot afford to pay it back will apply for loans. Yes they shouldn't be taking the loans we all appreciate that, however the onus should be on the company not to lend to people who can't pay them back.Just like a reputable mortgage company will only give you a mortgage for 2.4-3 times your salary.That is why they are seen to prey on the most vulnerable.and what about pawnbrokers such as Ramsdens? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,309 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 and what about pawnbrokers such as Ramsdens?Not familiar with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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