The Godfather 72,853 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Expectations are high because we signed a squad fit for the SPL and are playing in the poorest leagues in Europe.Are the expectations unrealistic? Not for me.We are winning games yes but the standard of football on show is pathetic for what we have and it's just not been getting any better.People might think when we get back we can then get better players and then we will improve but we already have good football players playing against poor football players and we are still struggling to look like a decent outfit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I expected a fresh start and Rangers to go forward with a new outlook both as a business and football team, i still think we have neither.I haven't been happy with us in a business or footballing sense for a while now, for me personally it's frustration at a missed opportunity and that's why I'm not satisfied. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchibaldLeitch 380 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We are what we are right now and it can only get better with the emergence of new talent, enhancing tactics and ideas from the coaching staff and we get the financial seide of the business settled and ready for the required investment when we get back into the premier division.Would i liked to have seen a few of the younger lads break through and be in the first team squad? Yes of course but other than aird, mckay and mcleod i really dont think any of them are good enough for the top division.I do think the criticisms of mccoist have been a little over the top at times considering some of the circumstances he has had to deal with but some of the football played and subsequent results have warranted harsh criticism.Next year will see our toughest challenge since we went into div3 but at the end of the day we will still win the league comfortably.As for high expectations? A club of our size and history expectations will always be high and rightly so, we put a lot of money into the club so the high standards expected at the club should be delivered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullery 240 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I expected a fresh start and Rangers to go forward with a new outlook both as a business and football team, i still think we have neither.I haven't been happy with us in a business or footballing sense for a while now, for me personally it's frustration at a missed opportunity and that's why I'm not satisfied.I keep reading this on here , but no one offers any substance on the subject , please explain this amazing dream you all had Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I keep reading this on here , but no one offers any substance on the subject , please explain this amazing dream you all hadNo need for the smart arse reply.We went to the brink, it would have been nice to have seen stability and board level, a proper scouting team, directors coming out with a clear message on where we are and where we plan to be as a business for example.Not sure what's hard to see, we have been a mess for a long time now, i simply wanted to see that change and see some improvements at Rangers and i don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,853 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I keep reading this on here , but no one offers any substance on the subject , please explain this amazing dream you all hadHe just told you.He didnt expect the same sub standard hoofing it up the park pish that we have been seeing for years.He expected us to be ran like a proper football club instead of a circus team like what's been happening since Admin.In short he wanted the club ran properly off the park and show a bit of adventure and imagination on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 He just told you.He didnt expect the same sub standard hoofing it up the park pish that we have been seeing for years.He expected us to be ran like a proper football club instead of a circus team like what's been happening since Admin.In short he wanted the club ran properly off the park and show a bit of adventure and imagination on it.Pretty much and we have neither, years wasted and it doesn't look to be changing anytime soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullery 240 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 He just told you.He didnt expect the same sub standard hoofing it up the park pish that we have been seeing for years.He expected us to be ran like a proper football club instead of a circus team like what's been happening since Admin.In short he wanted the club ran properly off the park and show a bit of adventure and imagination on it.so the big dream a new start a time to change the whole set up a new philosophy on our entire footballing outlook , is achieved by not hooffing the ball up the park ..brilliant Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,853 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 so the big dream a new start a time to change the whole set up a new philosophy on our entire footballing outlook , is achieved by not hooffing the ball up the park ..brilliant I see you don't have the capacity to debate this subject.I must say I had that suspicion when I seen your previous post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBF2 3,540 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I play amateur football and I see better stuff there than I do with Rangers. It's fucking disgusting how the team shape up. I can't remember the last time we had a real attacking move, we more or less just probe at every position until something works instead of building an attack.It's shameful that Ally is still in a job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCstuart 317 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Guys like Black, Law and Mohsni are doing enough to get bye.Players like Faure and Little just aren't good enough tbh.I'd put Black into that section with Faure and Little. Or not doing good enough anyway, he has been absolutely pish and i have no idea how some of our fans rate him so highly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Azure 1,414 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I'm dreading getting back into the top tier with the squad we've got at present and the tactics we are employing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 The players have to take an amount of the responsibility, I think some are going through the motions, I mean in reality we only have the two cup competitions to provide a competitive edge.However I also bieve we don't get the kind of football we should and also a part of a coaches job is motivation.Knowing you are a guranteed start every week regardless of form can't be good for motivation, especially for the players who can't get into the side. If any of my kids end up good enough to play professionally, the last place I would want them to be is at Ibrox, especially if they played right back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,516 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 A bit of both.The coaching and tactics need improved.In my opinion, the players are mediocre SPL players who are not good enough to compete when we return to the top league.A new coach may get a bit more out the team but I don't believe that much.I would also suggest that motivation may be a problem because we are so far in front in this league and some of the players are going through the motions.However we should be able to play better entertaining football just now (though it may not be possible in every game) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullery 240 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I see you don't have the capacity to debate this subject.I must say I had that suspicion when I seen your previous post. sorry i dont have your wonderful football wisdom insight and footballing nous , mr dont hoof the ball Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 until Ally wins the SPL he's on a hiding to nothing IMO. Unfortunately I don't believe he will win the SPL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEN WHO WAS PHONE? 6 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Are the expectations too high to be asking them to get us retaining possession for more than 2 or 3 passes at a time in the third tier?Really?I don't think people have any expectation of our coaching team any more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,042 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Bit of both like it or lump it we are a poor outfit. That team and squad are miles better than this league but in the grand scheme of things we are just not very good. We have good individuals but we ain't a good side.Poor players and poor team i agree, i just cannot fathom why we never seem to try and fix any of the blatant issues, this is the perfect time for ally to cut his cloth and learn his own style, the league is won so tinker with thingsI remember in wee dicks time, a paper showed stats that rangers won more points after subs were made than before (for example, we' be losing or drawing then after a sub or ttwo we'd either be drawing or winning) If ally was to start tinkering the starting line up, change formations etc im sure we'd all be more accepting of piss poor performances because its trial and error, but continuing with the same turgid shite week after week is pointless Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEN WHO WAS PHONE? 6 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 so the big dream a new start a time to change the whole set up a new philosophy on our entire footballing outlook , is achieved by not hooffing the ball up the park ..brilliant Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I am now lost whether it is management, the captain, or the players.The players we have should be able to go out onto the pitch and win without tactics, but then they may be following jigs tactics of just punting the ball up the park.Game today was just another unentertaining game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Its Rangers our expectations will always be high. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,259 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Anyone who thinks the players are switching off because the leagues won is wrong, they should be confident enough to play and win with a bit of flare, at one point I thought ES were the better team and could easily have scored twice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,853 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Winning is fuckin shocking ain't it.. Saying we are dreading playing in spl again etc is just daft. If we have this seasons record when were back in perm.. We will be at least 9 clear.. Will we be complaining then? Doubt it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,323 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We don't have a holding midfielder capable of controlling the game, until we get that the standard of football will be poor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Both...........with expectations influenced by memories of the great players and teams we have seen and maybe also influenced by a fear that the time it would take to get back to a position where we see a really great top-flight and european successful Rangers team may be longer that we'd like. With performances like those seen recently and again today - even though we won - that journey to the top takes risks taking the appearance of being a very long one. There seemed to me to be no real urgency to move the ball quickly, or to be direct enough and at pace in attacking, or to work fast enough and hard enough to recover possession of the ball. They seemed to be operating miles short of the pace they are capable of. If they are not careful this sort of continuation of performance starts to look like a repeat of the times we saw after New Year last season. A point about coaching before the start of the game today. Unless they were out early then back to the dressing room early I saw no warm up of our goalkeepers today. A few Supporters also remarked on that. Seemed very unusual to me.I suppose the bottom line for the Manager and Coaches is this - 3 points in the bag and another step towards promotion and we'll worry about the bridges to cross next season when we finish this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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