Chambo 197 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 For me it's a temporary measure, the league is fucked which was our main goal so I don'thave a problem putting Miller and boyd in to see how it goes.I'm forever reading on here that chimpanzees could of got us through these leagues with the resourceswe had, maybe we should gamble at no further cost.We can still get promoted though which I would imagine is the very least we expect from this season! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 May the OP should be telling us what the fuck he sees in Boyd that screams future manager.Almost typed that without laughing as well. Anytime I saw him as a pundit he speaks well and he has been doing his badges intothe bargain.People on here talk about so much knowledge of the game?Why aren't all the experts on here involved at a high level of coaching.If you sat with a top level player he would loose you with what he sees in a gamecompared to us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 We can still get promoted though which I would imagine is the very least we expect from this season!You think the team (and the manager) can handle the pressure of four (or six) legs when the stakes are that high? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedart1952 1,351 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 so you have just written him off as a manager?If Boyd was to be as lazy being a manager as he is a footballer, we would end up in a worse state than we are now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I agree with putting Ally on gardening leave. But there surely must be enough cash in the place to bring a guy like McCall in or something.It would pay for itself, with every extra 10,000 non season ticket fans equalling £200,000 per match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,556 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 If you sat with a top level player he would loose you with what he sees in a gamecompared to us.Take it ally was a sunday amateur player then given his management Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 If Boyd was to be as lazy being a manager as he is a footballer, we would end up in a worse state than we are now.Precisely!I find it to be a wholly preposterous suggestion.What interest has Boyd shown in training, team spirit, link up play or work ethic? None whatsoever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Anytime I saw him as a pundit he speaks well and he has been doing his badges intothe bargain.People on here talk about so much knowledge of the game?Why aren't all the experts on here involved at a high level of coaching.If you sat with a top level player he would loose you with what he sees in a gamecompared to us.Ally was involved at a high level of coaching didn't seem to do him any good.So your measure of a good coach is he can talk a good game, I will agree sitting with a TOP level players he would notice things I wouldn't.Top level player scenario falls on its arse when you apply it to Boydy.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Ally was involved at a high level of coaching didn't seem to do him any good.So your measure of a good coach is he can talk a good game, I will agree sitting with a TOP level players he would notice things I wouldn't.Top level player scenario falls on its arse when you apply it to Boydy..That doesn't mean that applies to everyone, I just think it's a bit unfair to writesomeone off when they don't have the foggiest whether he can make it as a manager.Of the names getting banded about everyone of these managers have had levels of failurein their managerial careers?I for 1 would be cautious giving any of them 2-3yr contracts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesteel 218 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Has the boy even got his badges ffs?!Badges do not a Manager/Coach make. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Ally expects to see out his 12months breaking news ssn.Fuck it it's got to be gardening leave afterall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Badges do not a Manager/Coach make.What? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 What?He is implying that because you have coaching badges doesn't make you a goodmanager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Tenders resignation,has a meeting with the board,still the manager,expects to see out 12 months notice,9 possibly 12 behind Hearts,promotion could be slipping away....aye Ally definitely "business as usual". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 He is implying that because you have coaching badges doesn't make you a goodmanager.But you need them to manage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 But you need them to manage.Correct, it's a natural thing now a lot of players have been doing their badges from an earlyage as a lot want to big into the coaching. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambo 197 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 You think the team (and the manager) can handle the pressure of four (or six) legs when the stakes are that high?I think this is why we need someone with experience in the dugout. We aren't going to win the league playing the way we are so the play offs looks like the only way we can go up. The team should be good enough and should cope with the pressure if the guidance from the management team is sufficient!Hence the reason that talk of Miller/Boyd/McCulloch/Durie has me worried! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1690tamRFC 5,001 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 He also expects to be given funds to strengthen the squad in jan. I think he's lost the plot, especially when he stated that tge fans fully expect him to see out his contract. Eh no Ally we don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Or accept Ally is here for a while - and just get behind the team/ manager !How can you get behind someone who's chucked it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearosaurus 41 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Llambias first task as CEO is surely to have this situation sorted before 2015.there's no point in bringing in temporary measures, we need a manager to take us forward over the next 3 years as it will take at least that to rebuild a decent infrastructureAgreed. McCoist's "vision" of to hell with anything else, just get players in who have been over the course with other clubs so they will naturally do it for us and concentrate on winning a shit league just doesn't work.IMO we need a manager and coaches who can train, select, and motivate what we've got coupled with a bit of foresight to get the infrastructure in place so we can rebuild the club is what's required. No way can an inexperienced or temporary manager ever hope to do that at our club.I do appreciate the difficulty in planning for the future as well as the present especially with our perilous financial position but, somewhere out there, there has to be one who can do just that. Who? God knows, but we NEED to look hence the throwing open to applications with the criteria firmly spelt out to applicants so that they're in no doubt that we DON'T want another "quick fix" but a genuine working plan or project or whatever the modern buzz-word is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 We have no option - we cant leave the lame duck in charge over two transfer windows and half the squad out of contract in the summer. Someone HAS to come in if we cant pay the lame duck off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 just get ally out and give durie temp;job till end off season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Something 14 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 It will all come to a head at the AGM. Digging his cabbage patch in the Algarve after then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackheid 8 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 If no deal is made we had best pray to God that the board are indeed about to implement their own solution to this farce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy cox 664 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 He should be removed from all first team duties and one of the other 2 stooges should take over till end of the season.We are a shambles at best right now so how does anyone think a manager who has already decided he is leaving will be able to motivate a group of players who are alreay down and out.He will be gone before his 12 months are up because if not there will be no club left to manage.The board up till now have been as incompetent as him but even they aren't stupid enough to ask ST holders to re-new while this man is in charge " SURELY" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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