HG5 11,154 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Do we think Craig Whyte was budgeting? With the bumper contracts and pay rises for players and new signings?Er.... Naw! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Spot on bud, craig whye did what businessmen do everywhere, but he needed ally to get through and ally blew it. if we beat maribir no adminAnd then he was allowed to blow it over and over and over again, and backed up by some all the way and leave everyone else to clear up his mess while he rakes it inAh-ha, got it now, carry on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Do we think Craig Whyte was budgeting? With the bumper contracts and pay rises for players and new signings?Not really it was just a general point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 See we already have the Ally McCoist apologists already hard at work on trying to rewrite history.Fact .He is officially our worst Manager in our history .He deserves that title to the day I dieHe has been a disgrace as a Manager and there is no dressing up of that fact.I still watch the dvd's of 9 in a row and love the young man that played with distinction .Nowadays he is one of ridicule for what he brought to our club. For all the embarrassment and humiliation on the football field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 See we already have the Ally McCoist apologists already hard at work on trying to rewrite history.Fact .He is officially our worst Manager in our history .He deserves that title to the day I dieHe has been a disgrace as a Manager and there is no dressing up of that fact.I still watch the dvd's of 9 in a row and love the young man that played with distinction .Nowadays he is one of ridicule for what he brought to our club. For all the embarrassment and humiliation on the football field.I see the Ally McCoist bashers are already hard at work on trying to rewrite history.Fact. He is the clubs all time leading goal scorer and club legend.He struggled as a manager under some of the worst circumstance any Rangers manager has had to work under and there is no dressing up of that fact.There are dvd's of 9 in a row that show just what he brought to Rangers as a player.Nowadays he is still cheered by the majority when he sets foot inside Ibrox for all that he has achieved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 See we already have the Ally McCoist apologists already hard at work on trying to rewrite history.Fact .He is officially our worst Manager in our history .He deserves that title to the day I dieHe has been a disgrace as a Manager and there is no dressing up of that fact.I still watch the dvd's of 9 in a row and love the young man that played with distinction .Nowadays he is one of ridicule for what he brought to our club. For all the embarrassment and humiliation on the football field.All I have seen on this thread are people like me saying Ally is not responsible for Craig Whyte taking us into admin. Who has been defending or apologising for anything on the football field? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Fortunately I post based on the balance of probabilities, which is helpful for me.Ok,Do you think we would have went into admin if we had qualified for the Champions league and reached the finals of the domestic cups? Its not really a big ask when you consider we had a squad who had won 3 in a row and won 8 out of he last 12 domestic honours.What difference do you think those addition home euro gates, sponsorship, hospitality and all additional income would have made? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 No even if we had qualified for Europe Whyte would have just moved the money out as quick as possible . Administration was always going to happen with Whyte there Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I see the Ally McCoist bashers are already hard at work on trying to rewrite history.Fact. He is the clubs all time leading goal scorer and club legend.He struggled as a manager under some of the worst circumstance any Rangers manager has had to work under and there is no dressing up of that fact.There are dvd's of 9 in a row that show just what he brought to Rangers as a player.Nowadays he is still cheered by the majority when he sets foot inside Ibrox for all that he has achieved.I thought infallibility was only meant for papists and their pope.I am happy that you are aware of Ally's achievements as a player, I was there, I don't need DVDs.Were these "worse circumstances" him having to play against part time teams with a tiny fraction of his budget?Were these "worse circumstances" the £735K a year wages for beating plumbers and shelf stackers?As a manager, he was an unmitigated disaster for our club and the legacy he has left will take years and million of pounds to repair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Ok,Do you think we would have went into admin if we had qualified for the Champions league and reached the finals of the domestic cups? Its not really a big ask when you consider we had a squad who had won 3 in a row and won 8 out of he last 12 domestic honours.What difference do you think those addition home euro gates, sponsorship, hospitality and all additional income would have made?Given Whyte's MO, very probably. Given that we didn't pay our due to HMRC, we burned through all the season ticket money, previous year's cash and extra from Ticketus awfully quickly.Such that we couldn't by out Aluko's Aberdeen fee in November. I have no faith any extra cash would have not ended up in the same black hole, do you? Bear in mind this was when we still had TV money, sponsorship and merchandising deals as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 No even if we had qualified for Europe Whyte would have just moved the money out as quick as possible . Administration was always going to happen with Whyte thereIt is a possibility, but we will never know that because Ally fell at the first fence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 It is a possibility, but we will never know that because Ally fell at the first fence.You cannot be serious. You think Ally cause us to go into liqudation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Given Whyte's MO, very probably. Given that we didn't pay our due to HMRC, we burned through all the season ticket money, previous year's cash and extra from Ticketus awfully quickly.Such that we couldn't by out Aluko's Aberdeen fee in November. I have no faith any extra cash would have not ended up in the same black hole, do you? Bear in mind this was when we still had TV money, sponsorship and merchandising deals as well.You may be right, but we will never know because Ally and the teams he picked failed us at the first hurdle, he also lost to a lower division team in our first game in the league cup and our 2nd tie in the Scottish Cup.We burned through the ST money quickly because we had no real additional income due to Ally's failures in domestic competitions.We had also sold away a percentage of our ST money to ticketus and then you factor in the black hole that the club operates at without European income. As for other sources of income, It might be the case that David Murray already had these sewn up. who knows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 You cannot be serious. You think Ally cause us to go into liqudation?Oh FFS! Another with comprehension issues, WTF happened to our education system? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I thought infallibility was only meant for papists and their pope.I am happy that you are aware of Ally's achievements as a player, I was there, I don't need DVDs.Were these "worse circumstances" him having to play against part time teams with a tiny fraction of his budget?Were these "worse circumstances" the £735K a year wages for beating plumbers and shelf stackers?As a manager, he was an unmitigated disaster for our club and the legacy he has left will take years and million of pounds to repair.I don't know if you noticed but this post is the exact mirror of the post above it. Did you just choose to take exception to this because it differs from your opinion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 You cannot be serious. You think Ally cause us to go into liqudation?Go on, I dare you,Tell me where I said that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Oh FFS! Another with comprehension issues, WTF happened to our education system?Yes i'm sure you do in fact come across many who don't understand your posts because they're pretty incomprehensible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I don't know if you noticed but this post is the exact mirror of the post above it. Did you just choose to take exception to this because it differs from your opinion?You really do have comprehension issues, what school did you go to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Yes i'm sure you do in fact come across many who don't understand your posts because they're pretty incomprehensible.Are you special needs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Go on, I dare you,Tell me where I said that?It's a question smart arse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoorie 1,088 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Rangers media is infested by the unwashed from the east.There are people on this thread trying to justify Craig White, while attacking the only person who stood up for our club when they came to kill us.Rangers fans?Not in my lifetime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Are you special needs?Well it's all about the debate i suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 It's a question smart arse.Obviously smarter than you, but that is stating the obvious. well its obvious for most people.You might struggle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Well it's all about the debate i suppose. Your obviously not up to debate if you can't manage simple comprehension. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Obviously smarter than you, but that is stating the obvious. well its obvious for most people.You might struggle.Are you okay do you sit down or something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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