Tontospal 1,116 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I thought the point was we don't want a police state?You're playing right into their hands there.How is that having a police state?There is a massive difference between flares, suicide attacks and people being offended by singing.The issue with flares can be prevented at the turnstiles. Reporting fellow fans is the biggest load of nonsense ever and the grass a bear hotline introduced by that cunt Bain was a low point in our history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tontospal 1,116 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 You're hilarious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 The Nazis and the Commies both encouraged folk to clipe on each other, for the good of the state mind.The Nazis also encouraged religious bigotry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,338 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Sigh.Pretty pathetic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 17,169 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 They won't be happy until football has the same kind of 'family" atmosphere as ice hockey. And the irony is for all the nice safe behaviour of the ice hockey spectators, the players punch fuck out of each other and get away with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 so lets put this on the other foot then - if songs are sung and no one complains this would show that there's no offence being taken so it shouldn't be deemed offensive? Sounds reasonable to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 so....is he right - is it reality that there is no such thing as the 90 minute bigot?This question highlights the absolute stupidity of the laws and the lack of understanding amongst the politicians and the police over what they have brought about.By specifying the environment of the football match and highlighting particular offenses and penalties to be attached to that environment, which would not be relevant in any other time or place, they have actually created the offense of 90-minute bigotry.Being a bigot is not an offense.Expressing bigotry in a perceived offensive or aggressive manner is an offense.Penalising the offensive or aggressive expression of bigotry (racial, sexual, sectarian, political or national) differently, based on whether or not it is within the environs of a football match, by definition validates the concept of the 90-minute bigot. But these idiots can't see that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 One shudders to think what Fat Eck's vision of a perfect SNP society looks like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I like to think I'm a pretty nice guy. Pay my taxes.. never been in trouble, I vote... take care of my family etc. Going to the football has always been a release. I have no problem whatsoever with the 90 minute bigot .. probably because I am one as well. Football has always -- well... used to be? the working man's game. Work hard, play hard and on Saturday at 3pm just let loose.No harm has ever been done by a few words that are deemed unacceptable. ffs. Now if people feel 'uncomfortable', they are asked to go to the polis? Really not sure what to make of all of this. But it certainly doesn't feel like it's ok. When I was a child, I would go to Ibrox hear and see everything and just accepted it. I didn't turn into a serial killer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
super hans 55 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Polis and stewards at games make me uncomfortable, should I report them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,399 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 so lets put this on the other foot then - if songs are sung and no one complains this would show that there's no offence being taken so it shouldn't be deemed offensive? Sounds reasonable to me.I like your thinking. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,569 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 They won't be happy until football has the same kind of 'family" atmosphere as ice hockey. And the irony is for all the nice safe behaviour of the ice hockey spectators, the players punch fuck out of each other and get away with it.The upside to that is we get to punch fuck out of those mhanks. I'd pay plenty to watch. The downside is we would need deloused and disinfected afterwards and of course all the supporters would be jailed for joining in! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 They got one of my fav songs banned about some wee cunt who ate his dog.The tims have created a monster that keeps getting bigger and by 2030 we will be sat on our hands humming so as not to offend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIE8CH 296 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 They got one of my fav songs banned about some wee cunt who ate his dog. The tims have created a monster that keeps getting bigger and by 2030 we will be sat on our hands humming so as not to offend. [we are 15 years behind then as they smelly cants are humming already/quote] Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaPapacLoyal 348 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 http://fansagainstcriminalisation.com/Fuck them. Their fault we are in this mess in the first place. What did they think was going to happen? That the SNP would introduce an anti-Rangers bill and leave all the other teams supporters alone? Daft cunts. Moaning about getting searched going into grounds when their fellow mhanks are throwing flares about. Cunts are beyond parody Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Fuck them. Their fault we are in this mess in the first place. What did they think was going to happen? That the SNP would introduce an anti-Rangers bill and leave all the other teams supporters alone? Daft cunts.Moaning about getting searched going into grounds when their fellow mhanks are throwing flares about. Cunts are beyond parodyThey thought exactly that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Someone mentioned offending the taigs by 2030. Personally wouldn't worry about that too much. At current 'breeding' rates, by 230, the UK will be predominately Muslim and the country will be living under Sharia Law Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,407 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Someone mentioned offending the taigs by 2030. Personally wouldn't worry about that too much. At current 'breeding' rates, by 230, the UK will be predominately Muslim and the country will be living under Sharia Law Just because Muhammed has been the most popular name for new born boys in Glasgow for three years running doesn't mean that......oh wait...ehm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,446 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 That fans against criminality got a bear off with a charge the other day I think I read.They've also helped Motherwell and Hamilton fansBut I agree we are miles behind. If anyone is ever up plead not guilty. You're never getting convictedNot true. Seen a Raith Rovers fan get done under the Football Act for sectarian abuse at Ibrox. He went right through trial and got found guilty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,569 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Just because Muhammed has been the most popular name for new born boys in Glasgow for three years running doesn't mean that......oh wait...ehm.As-salamu alaykum. Allahu Akbar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 As-salamu alaykum. Allahu Akbar. Wa alaykumu s-salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 That fans against criminality got a bear off with a charge the other day I think I read.They've also helped Motherwell and Hamilton fansBut I agree we are miles behind. If anyone is ever up plead not guilty. You're never getting convictedThis^Never plead guilty to this joke law. I have yet to hear anyone get found guilty after a trial with this charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,899 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Not true. Seen a Raith Rovers fan get done under the Football Act for sectarian abuse at Ibrox. He went right through trial and got found guilty.Did they have video evedince?I read a stag saying something like 85% who pled not guilty got off with it. Think that's the fans against criminality clients though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 http://fansagainstcriminalisation.com/I have a much better lawyers than they have provided, with proven track record in these cases. PM me if you ever land in this unfortunate position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Defo true in my case, as I would fit into their category of lifetime bigot. Why? Well because firstly because I am a member of a Loyalist institution. I sing songs that they say are no longer relevant both on match days, in my home and at parades. I am vocal in my protesting of .......the satanic doctrine of Rome, the cover up of priestly child rapists, sectarian schools that I am forced to fund, the influencing of government policy by the satanic church, being criminilised for being a football supporter and more.Now if being a member of an institution that celebrates freedom of worship, being an individual who protests against non biblical doctrine, wants children protected from child rapists and the perp's brought to justice, an end to sectarian schooling and not wishing to be criminilsed and labelled for just supporting a football team, them I am unashamedly that full time bigot.Then tell me what has happened to our democratic rights, freedom af speech and civil liberty. It has been flushed away down the toilet to appease the bigoted minority, aided and abetted by our very own appeasers and handwringers.Utterly spot on!! Nail, head. Couldn't have said it any better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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