BridgeIsBlue 66,654 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 PIRA Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 6 hours ago, ZZed said: I don't but the reality lots of people do, and that has to be taken in to account. I do look at the reality of the situation and it is clear Rangers supporters have lots of enemies and this includes politicians and parties. The SNP are a good case study of it. If the reality is that lots of people do take  their politics from supporting a club then folks like me who don't, also have as much right to support the club as well? I also suspect at least 45% of our support also support the SNP and is my lass Nicola not MP for Govan? ( Glasgow south side) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,654 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Bluepeter9 said: I also suspect at least 45% of our support also support the SNP and is my lass Nicola not MP for Govan? ( Glasgow south side)Â Do you ever read the diarrhoea you post on here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Bluepeter9 said: Better than being a fantasist! Your definition of a fantasist though it someone telling you truths that you don't like hearing - that's probably the opposite of a fantasist Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Bluepeter9 said: If the reality is that lots of people do take  their politics from supporting a club then folks like me who don't, also have as much right to support the club as well? I also suspect at least 45% of our support also support the SNP and is my lass Nicola not MP for Govan? ( Glasgow south side) That's 45% of Scotland on the whole ya spak  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Was it not 45% of voters. But only 37.8% of whole population? All i remember was it was way short of requirements. Fuck the SNP anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,511 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: If the reality is that lots of people do take  their politics from supporting a club then folks like me who don't, also have as much right to support the club as well? I also suspect at least 45% of our support also support the SNP and is my lass Nicola not MP for Govan? ( Glasgow south side) Despite that halfwit Sturgeon's face being plastered all over billboards in Glasgow, the majority of people in Glasgow Southside didn't vote. She has done fuck all in her constituency for years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 7 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: If the reality is that lots of people do take  their politics from supporting a club then folks like me who don't, also have as much right to support the club as well? (That's Democracy ) I also suspect at least 45% of our support also support the SNP and is my lass Nicola not MP for Govan? ( Glasgow south side) T-Shirt for you mate  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 8 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: We don't have any control over any oil income - kinda shows why some posters shouldn't debate politics when they don't even have a grasp of basic facts let alone anything with depth! The lack of depth is down to your shallowness. As Im sure a political giant such as yourself was aware I was simply, out of badness, pointing out the the primary funding for your wee gangs utopian country, as stated in Baw Faces white paper, is on its knees, and had to be supported by they nasty Inglish. But given the half wits on the national socialist party arent competent enough to control the areas they have already been given autonomy of and that they shite themselves any time someone tries to imply responsibility its no wonder The Fuhrette wants to tie herself to the EUSSR, gives someone else to blame. But Nats and facts, like Tims and water. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globalskana 10 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 The media are scum all over it's not just Scotland. Â They have to sell shit and in order to sell shit, they lie and twist stories and words. Â I don't think it's a bias against Rangers they're just following the bandwagon to sell their rags. Â Politicians and the media are of the same ilk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristoe1872 2,654 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 If it was possible i'd ban snp voters from supporting Rangers Football Club. They have no business being anywhere near Ibrox Stadium. Pity it's not possible to implement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, Bristoe1872 said: If it was possible i'd ban snp voters from supporting Rangers Football Club. They have no business being anywhere near Ibrox Stadium. Pity it's not possible to implement. Fuck sake Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 14 hours ago, Bertent said: Concepts? Is that the same as propaganda from intellectual pygmies? Hows the oil income financing the socialist utopia these days?  Bingo!!! Salmonds and subsequently Sturgeons Socialist Utopia hinged on this and this alone - a whole reliance on oil, whilst conveniently forgetting that: A: It's a 'finite resource'. I attended a conference pre Indy Ref where a talk was being given by some Norwegian 'petroleum specialist' from Conoco Phillips and the subject of North Sea sector reserves was brought up. He estimated that there was approximately 30 years to 40 years left maximum. That's oil production, not continued drilling and finding new reserves. The issue isn't that it will run out 'per se', but the difficulties in extracting it, especially in North Sea conditions due to increased costs as it involves drilling at deeper depths using HPHT (high pressure, high temperature) drilling without any guarantee of a return. Major drilling companies are moving out of the North Sea in favour of either higher day rates in the Norwegian sector (which is also suffering) or overseas work where costs are considerably lower - revenue that Scotland / Sturgeon will never see. Transocean, possibly the biggest drilling contractor in the world are finished here and have been selling off their North Sea assets over the last few years. The company I previously worked for had six rigs here in the UK / Norway. Four were operating in Norway, two in the North Sea (subsequently only two are now in operation, both in Norway) with all new builds, drillships etc destined for overseas. B: It doesn't belong to Scotland, it belongs to whoever pays to extract the stuff . The pipeline infrastructure is already there, all that has to be determined is where it comes ashore. Sturgeon might say, we'll set a tax on the price of oil in relation to the price per barrel set by OPEC. England then says we'll set it lower (or we won't tax it at all, but will accept it on job creation). Bang, the tap goes anti-clockwise south of the border. Again, generating revenue that Scotland / Sturgeon will never see. C: Salmonds (now Sturgeons) wet-dream of following the Norwegian model (and I don't mean a blonde with big tits) regarding oil funds etc is nothing more than a self-fantasy. We are 30+ years behind them with absolutely no way of having it implemented. The quicker that these nationalist fuckwits waken up to accept the fact that Scotland isn't a rich country (and never will be) the better. Ask them to explain how Scotland will cope if the Barnett Formula is no longer applied, ie, how will Scotland cope when given a per capita budget the same as the rest of the country and constituency sizes the same as everyone else... ...cue a quizzical look and much humming, hawing and gnashing of gums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Bristoe1872 said: If it was possible i'd ban snp voters from supporting Rangers Football Club. They have no business being anywhere near Ibrox Stadium. Pity it's not possible to implement. We can dream mate .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Bristoe1872 said: If it was possible i'd ban snp voters from supporting Rangers Football Club. They have no business being anywhere near Ibrox Stadium. Pity it's not possible to implement. I've mentioned this on numerous occasions. ST holders should have to declare their political ideals when signing up (no doubt they would lie...) any who did state SNP would have their application binned. If it was to come out at a later date, that had in fact lied, ST would be cancelled (summary executions would most likely be frowned upon and seen as a step too far). They shouldn't be allowed anywhere near us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: I've mentioned this on numerous occasions. ST holders should have to declare their political ideals when signing up (no doubt they would lie...) any who did state SNP would have their application binned. If it was to come out at a later date, that had in fact lied, ST would be cancelled (summary executions would most likely be frowned upon and seen as a step too far). They shouldn't be allowed anywhere near us. Who would be an acceptable choice of party? The catholic Labour Party? The tories? Jesus fucking wept. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: I've mentioned this on numerous occasions. ST holders should have to declare their political ideals when signing up (no doubt they would lie...) any who did state SNP would have their application binned. If it was to come out at a later date, that had in fact lied, ST would be cancelled (summary executions would most likely be frowned upon and seen as a step too far). They shouldn't be allowed anywhere near us. I know a guy that has only missed a handful of games home and away since the late 90's who voted yes in the referendum. I don't agree with his vote but I respect his decision because of , you know, democracy. I'd love to see anyone trying to tell him that he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Ibrox because that vote somehow means he isn't a Rangers fan. I'd pay good money to see it actually Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 30 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: I've mentioned this on numerous occasions. ST holders should have to declare their political ideals when signing up (no doubt they would lie...) any who did state SNP would have their application binned. If it was to come out at a later date, that had in fact lied, ST would be cancelled (summary executions would most likely be frowned upon and seen as a step too far). They shouldn't be allowed anywhere near us. That would be awesome but you'd still have Houston and Marshall - 2 no voters .. for all I think BP9 is a scummy wee bastard, even he wouldn't have stooped to their levels yesterday (I hope)Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,701 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Sfunny how folks bleat on about the SNP but put no credible argument as to why folks should vote for Tories, Labour and what not. just any devil bar the devil we know eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, TheLoudenTavernier said: I know a guy that has only missed a handful of games home and away since the late 90's who voted yes in the referendum. I don't agree with his vote but I respect his decision because of , you know, democracy. I'd love to see anyone trying to tell him that he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Ibrox because that vote somehow means he isn't a Rangers fan. I'd pay good money to see it actually Don't think he's saying he isn't a Rangers fan he's saying he wishes he wasn't and would ban them on those grounds lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Don't think he's saying he isn't a Rangers fan he's saying he wishes he wasn't and would ban them on those grounds lol Personally I think that's comical. As your other post has just highlighted, we have bigger problems in our support than people who have different political views. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, TheLoudenTavernier said: Personally I think that's comical. As your other post has just highlighted, we have bigger problems in our support than people who have different political views. After yesterday they 2 (and any of their wee fan boys on social media) stopped lower than any your average YES/SNP'er has done that I've seen - even if I've no time for them either ... scum bastards as far as the eye can see nowadays with our support Houston/Marshall and yessers/SNP voters alike - yesterday was another nail in our supports coffin - dark day and I'm not even trying to sound overly dramatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 11 hours ago, K.A.I said: Your definition of a fantasist though it someone telling you truths that you don't like hearing - that's probably the opposite of a fantasist No my definition of a fantasist is @K.A.I Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller time 4,988 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 13 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: If the reality is that lots of people do take  their politics from supporting a club then folks like me who don't, also have as much right to support the club as well? I also suspect at least 45% of our support also support the SNP and is my lass Nicola not MP for Govan? ( Glasgow south side) 45℅ what a load of utter shite I'm surprised you still post on here , haggis eating fudge Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Bertent said: The lack of depth is down to your shallowness. As Im sure a political giant such as yourself was aware I was simply, out of badness, pointing out the the primary funding for your wee gangs utopian country, as stated in Baw Faces white paper, is on its knees, and had to be supported by they nasty Inglish. But given the half wits on the national socialist party arent competent enough to control the areas they have already been given autonomy of and that they shite themselves any time someone tries to imply responsibility its no wonder The Fuhrette wants to tie herself to the EUSSR, gives someone else to blame. But Nats and facts, like Tims and water. What nonsense ( in so many ways) but you continue to doth your cap to your betters in London who treat you with contempt and I'll remain confident in the ability of my fellow Scots to handle our own affairs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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