OhW 4,679 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley 1,402 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 9 hours ago, tannerall said: We need to think about bringing back the 5 pillars that helped make us successful in the past. A 2-3-5 formation, blue shirts with big white collars,  enormous sideburns, proper words for "The Billy Boys and ebts.     And the macaroon bars and the spearaaamint chewing gum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,729 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 As long as Windass is working his arse off in an attacking sense then I'm fine with that - and I think he does. If he's playing as a number 10 he should be pressing but he won't be instructed to be tackling back and helping out the other two and I think he does a pretty decent job of doing that - especially away from home. It's not really what a number 10 does, especially in the formation we play. Not saying he's perfect but he gets an unreasonable amount of abuse. We still don't really have a team of 90 minute players and I think that's where we suffer most - we lack the game management to come through a spell in a match where we're toiling. If you want to talk about changing formation and playing a tighter midfield three and dropping him that's fine - there's definitely an argument to be had, but I think his productivity really does speak for itself when played as a 10. (or even up front in a 2.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 13 hours ago, scottyc06 said: It’s fashionable to want Windass dropped! He's the new Andy Halliday on here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Pillars? Sounds like Pedro... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 16 hours ago, Bellshill_Bear said: There are a few things we need to sort out before we are going to come close to the consistency we are looking for. 1. Tactics - it’s obvious this 1 formation fits all tactic only works 70% of the time. We need to start changing between 2 or 3 formations depending on the opposition or at least get the players right. The 4232 formation does work in some games. But that number 10 role is crucial which I will discuss later. 1 upfront again doesn’t work in all the games especially when the opponents flood the box. Our midfield can be overrun in certain games especially against the junkies. 2. Windass - this guy has scored a lot of goals but he goes missing a lot in games, that number 10 position is crucial to that formation and someone like Murphy who is omnipresent would excel there. I would drop windass unless it’s against weaker opposition. 3. substitutions and Intra-play changes - most of the points we have dropped this season could have been avoided if murty spotted that we needed a change, I don’t get how the fans can spot when something needs changed before murty can. 4. The manager - murty is not good enough... yet. He is too inexperienced to grid out results and we would be a lot better off with a manager who can see when changes are required and make them. 5. Deadwood - we have too many players that will never get a game, get rid of them and recycle the wage, hodson, MOH, Rossiter too name a few, we could use there wage elsewhere. Basically, the problem with our current tactics are our midfield is over run, our lone attacker is offensive isolated and needs a more effective number 10 to play those cute through balls, our attacker (Morelos) misses too many sitters and is ineffective in the air and our central defenders are mince. If we were to play that tactic I would prefer to play without windass and in games where our midfield will win the battle, Murphy would be my number 10. In games against a strong midfield I would use the 442 diamond. This tactic has already worked and dominates the middle of the park, the only thing is we lose our width but make up for this with our sheer strength in the middle. Another formation I would like to use is 352 with wingbacks and an attacking midfielder, we would maintain our width but be more compact centrally. Cummings and Morelos would get a lot of service from tav and John as well as Murphy playing just behind. windass is done, his strength is late runs in the box but that is the only thing he has to offer. You need more from players at this level. We are a new manager and 2 extra formation as well as 4 new players away from being where we want to be. 4232 formation should work well - that 12th player - Murty should have spotted that long ago as a way to win. Unfirtunately the 4232 is as much nonsense as the rest of your post Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 14 hours ago, Bellshill_Bear said: There are a few things we need to sort out before we are going to come close to the consistency we are looking for. 1. Tactics - it’s obvious this 1 formation fits all tactic only works 70% of the time. We need to start changing between 2 or 3 formations depending on the opposition or at least get the players right. The 4232 formation does work in some games. But that number 10 role is crucial which I will discuss later. 1 upfront again doesn’t work in all the games especially when the opponents flood the box. Our midfield can be overrun in certain games especially against the junkies. 2. Windass - this guy has scored a lot of goals but he goes missing a lot in games, that number 10 position is crucial to that formation and someone like Murphy who is omnipresent would excel there. I would drop windass unless it’s against weaker opposition. 3. substitutions and Intra-play changes - most of the points we have dropped this season could have been avoided if murty spotted that we needed a change, I don’t get how the fans can spot when something needs changed before murty can. 4. The manager - murty is not good enough... yet. He is too inexperienced to grid out results and we would be a lot better off with a manager who can see when changes are required and make them. 5. Deadwood - we have too many players that will never get a game, get rid of them and recycle the wage, hodson, MOH, Rossiter too name a few, we could use there wage elsewhere. Basically, the problem with our current tactics are our midfield is over run, our lone attacker is offensive isolated and needs a more effective number 10 to play those cute through balls, our attacker (Morelos) misses too many sitters and is ineffective in the air and our central defenders are mince. If we were to play that tactic I would prefer to play without windass and in games where our midfield will win the battle, Murphy would be my number 10. In games against a strong midfield I would use the 442 diamond. This tactic has already worked and dominates the middle of the park, the only thing is we lose our width but make up for this with our sheer strength in the middle. Another formation I would like to use is 352 with wingbacks and an attacking midfielder, we would maintain our width but be more compact centrally. Cummings and Morelos would get a lot of service from tav and John as well as Murphy playing just behind. windass is done, his strength is late runs in the box but that is the only thing he has to offer. You need more from players at this level. We are a new manager and 2 extra formation as well as 4 new players away from being where we want to be. Good thoughtful post about football mate It won't catch on  Bellshill_Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellshill_Bear 1,105 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: 4232 formation should work well - that 12th player - Murty should have spotted that long ago as a way to win. Unfirtunately the 4232 is as much nonsense as the rest of your post Obviously I meant 4231 but have fat fingers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellshill_Bear 1,105 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Good thoughtful post about football mate It won't catch on  God loves a tryer. Think I will just moan about the players/board/manager/media/pundits/refs in future ? Bobby Hume, eejay the dj and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellshill_Bear 1,105 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Jack The Flipper said: Pillars? Sounds like Pedro... Dogs are still barking mate Jack The Flipper 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eejay the dj 31,964 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Bellshill_Bear said: God loves a tryer. Think I will just moan about the players/board/manager/media/pundits/refs in future ? Nothing wrong with that in my book Shows you care about our club HG5 and Bobby Hume 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Bellshill_Bear said: God loves a tryer. Think I will just moan about the players/board/manager/media/pundits/refs in future ? That's the spirit, just slag every cunt and you're fine unless we are winning and then you can fuck off! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellshill_Bear 1,105 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 9 hours ago, OhW said: Even if he is a bheast, he's right. In what way is "deadwood" a pillar of Rangers' success? The deadwood is a waste of a wage,  resource that could be spent on players that would improve the squad. Herrera is on big bucks, MOH and hodson would be on first team wages with no chance of ever starting. Unlike holt who would be trusted to come in and do a job he would be a rotation player. theres no competition either, Morelos and Cummings has been our only 2 strikers since new year. Morelos could miss chance after chance and still know Herrera or Herrera would never get a start. Getting shot of them and getting in better players would increase competition and skill set. look at the bheasts, hate to use them as an example but if any of them (bar defence) don’t perform there are ready made replacements ready to step up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellshill_Bear 1,105 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just an opinion and the intent was to stimulate debate on football matters. Not saying I’m right or anything although I’m never wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuW 7 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 25/03/2018 at 20:39, Bellshill_Bear said: 49 posts in 7 years? Not all of us can waste our lives away on the internet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,284 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, StuW said: Not all of us can waste our lives away on the internet. Just ignore him StuW. Clearly it just takes you a wee bit longer (1.5 months) to gather your thoughts before each post. I've checked your posting history and every one of them was well worth the wait ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuW 7 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Just ignore him StuW. Clearly it just takes you a wee bit longer (1.5 months) to gather your thoughts before each post. I've checked your posting history and every one of them was well worth the wait ? I love online sarcasm. ;) SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniescu 2,986 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 25/03/2018 at 19:37, scottyc06 said: It’s fashionable to want Windass dropped! It's more sensible than fashionable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniescu 2,986 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 25/03/2018 at 19:32, ForeverAndEver said: Windass is our best player and scorer, yet you'd drop him for Cummings lol May as well cancel the Edinburgh Festival. You've just won their Perrier award for comedy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,284 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 hours ago, StuW said: I love online sarcasm. ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,132 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 hours ago, ronniescu said: May as well cancel the Edinburgh Festival. You've just won their Perrier award for comedy. Patter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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