coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, magic8ball said: 2 different directions ,no way was Katic shown it twice I think (tinfoil helmet on!) that he HAS booked Brown, but in the furore of the penalty, he's simply forgotten to record it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: If you have been sent off already is it not a second red card you get if you do anything else on the way to the dressing room. Am I right in thinking that Billy Abercrombie of St Mirren recieved 3 red cards in a game back in the 90s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: I think (tinfoil helmet on!) that he HAS booked Brown, but in the furore of the penalty, he's simply forgotten to record it. Don’t think there’s any need to have a tin hat on for that ,most of the guys on here reckon Lego was booked ,the only difference of opinion would be the recording of it or that he shat it when he realised who he had booked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: Is there a verified source for that other than an unattributed statement in the Record? Referee's match report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, hammer93 said: Am I right in thinking that Billy Abercrombie of St Mirren recieved 3 red cards in a game back in the 90s? Aye I remember that as well mate, think it’s been done a few times since then as well. 😂 Sure I remember Abercrombie just kept calling the Ref something and he kept giving him a red card. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, magic8ball said: Don’t think there’s any need to have a tin hat on for that ,most of the guys on here reckon Lego was booked ,the only difference of opinion would be the recording of it or that he shat it when he realised who he had booked You know for an absolute fact that clarification fc would be all over this scenario. 9 minutes ago, The Dude said: Referee's match report. Are we to accept that despite the video footage? Every possibility he did book someone else and he simply "forgot" to record it. The arse-covering by the Record is convenient and we're all to now accept it as fact and shut-up about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Waiting on confirmation from the SFA over whether Morelos was booked for the gesture. Hopefully hear back soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: You know for an absolute fact that clarification fc would be all over this scenario. Are we to accept that despite the video footage? Every possibility he did book someone else and he simply "forgot" to record it. The arse-covering by the Record is convenient and we're all to now accept it as fact and shut-up about it. Yes. It's the definitive account of who was booked/dismissed and who wasn't, whether we agree with it or not. Clancy even points at Katic as he books him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Yes. It's the definitive account of who was booked/dismissed and who wasn't, whether we agree with it or not. Clancy even points at Katic as he books him. Roger. You're in the "referee is infallible" and "accept it and shut it" camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: Roger. You're in the "referee is infallible" and "accept it and shut it" camp. Not at all. Referee is far from infallible and I've written a couple of times about his performance. Here's one quote: So christ knows where you're coming up with i think he's infallible. Suppose it's easier than taking the tinfoil hat off and accepting that maybe he never booked Brown at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 All this hysterical demonisation of a player is way beyond the pale. The haters are so desperate to drive him out, knowing he is the one man who is their biggest threat. That and the fact they are trying to undermine his value to hurt the club. This shithole is full of sick fucks who need their unholy fucking necks stretched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Not at all. Referee is far from infallible and I've written a couple of times about his performance. Here's one quote: So christ knows where you're coming up with i think he's infallible. Suppose it's easier than taking the tinfoil hat off and accepting that maybe he never booked Brown at all. If you've read any of my previous posts on referees you'll see I'm one of the most protective (if that's the right word) of them. In this instance it looks very suspiciously like the ref fucked up. I'm not suggesting anything more sinister than that, and it's very easy to put to bed. An unattributed comment in a tabloid isn't really clearing anything up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, coopsleftboot said: If you've read any of my previous posts on referees you'll see I'm one of the most protective (if that's the right word) of them. In this instance it looks very suspiciously like the ref fucked up. I'm not suggesting anything more sinister than that, and it's very easy to put to bed. An unattributed comment in a tabloid isn't really clearing anything up. It's been confirmed by the SFA to me directly. As has Morelos' third booking for 'additional misconduct' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, The Dude said: Yes. It's the definitive account of who was booked/dismissed and who wasn't, whether we agree with it or not. Clancy even points at Katic as he books him. He does, before the 1st yellow. Katic looks directly at him ( doesn't change his position) when the 2nd yellow is issued. Maybe it was clarification for everyone else bar the player who would have been fully aware he was being booked (seeing the ref look at you, walk towards you, point at you and issue at card at you would cover that imo). That worked out well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: If you've read any of my previous posts on referees you'll see I'm one of the most protective (if that's the right word) of them. In this instance it looks very suspiciously like the ref fucked up. I'm not suggesting anything more sinister than that, and it's very easy to put to bed. An unattributed comment in a tabloid isn't really clearing anything up. He's never going to own up to it if he did fuck up, whilst still in the game. It's simply not in his interest to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: It's been confirmed by the SFA to me directly. Has it It really confirms nothing other than that's the party line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, coopsleftboot said: Has it It really confirms nothing other than that's the party line. Yes, I mentioned earlier in the thread I was waiting for confirmation on Morelos' booking as I'm writing an article on it and also asked the question re Brown. Happy to show you my call log to the SFA's disciplinary office and return call from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, The Dude said: Yes, I mentioned earlier in the thread I was waiting for confirmation on Morelos' booking as I'm writing an article on it and also asked the question re Brown. Happy to show you my call log to the SFA's disciplinary office and return call from them. Do you believe what you've been told? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, coopsleftboot said: Do you believe what you've been told? Yes, I've no reason not to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Yes, I've no reason not to. Did they tell you what exactly he was booked for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,606 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Big DJ. IF my many years of being involved in football have taught me anything, it is that you can never say never. Nothing surprised me in this game anymore. That being said, I don’t think that Rangers can afford to allow Alfredo Morelos to leave the club in this transfer window if they are serious about winning the league. If he was to go, the only way that the Rangers support would be able to stomach it is if it was for a record fee received by a Scottish club, and then a proven goalscorer was brought in with that money. I’m sure that the Rangers management team will have someone in mind to bring in should that happen, but that’s a dicey game to be playing at this stage of the season. Who could they get that would guarantee the goals that Morelos brings you? If it happens at the end of the season, then fine. But this is a man who will score way above 30 goals this season, and every club that wants to win things needs a player like that. We all know that money talks in football, and if there is a crazy offer of £30m or above, then it might be hard for the men upstairs at Rangers to say no to that kind of cash. But I think it would take a bid of at least £30m to even come close to testing their resolve, and it would have to be early enough in the window for Rangers to source a suitable replacement. Anything south of that? Absolutely no chance. If Rangers have any aspirations of getting that league title, they have to be stronger than that when it comes to their prize asset. If a team comes in from down south or elsewhere who are desperate for a proven goalscorer as they chase European football or whatever, then you never know, but Steven Gerrard will certainly not want to lose such an integral figure having done so well to this point. If anything, in fact, I’d like to see another striker coming in during January. I think Rangers are pretty well stocked elsewhere in the side. Steven Gerrard has a plethora of midfielders to choose from, he has four centre-backs, he has full-backs that can cover on both the left and right. My only worry is up top. There has been a lot made of the fact that Rangers have Morelos and Jermain Defoe, two top-class strikers, of that there is no doubt. But while Defoe in the main has had to spend a bit of time on the bench this season, I still worry they are a little bit light in that department. Morelos will be out for the first few games after the break through suspension, and while Defoe is a more than adequate replacement up there, he really is the only other option. If anything happens to him, then who plays up front? Added to that, there are no options available to the manager to change things up during a match should things not be going Rangers’ way whenever one of the current two strikers are unavailable. What I would like to see is a big six-foot-two striker brought in to give Rangers another option. They don’t have that right now. There is Morelos who is bustling in around people, Defoe who is great at turning defenders and finding space, but there isn’t a target man, that player who can win balls in the air up front. I’m not saying Rangers should go route one and stop playing football, but sometimes you need that option of someone who when the ball is thrown up to them, it sticks. There is also the question of forward-planning. Jermain Defoe isn’t getting any younger, despite the fact he still has class in spades, and Alfredo Morelos may very well be off at the end of the season. The manager and Ross Wilson will no doubt be thinking of bringing in a striker at this point to not only provide support to the two that are there already and to give Rangers another string to their bow in attack, but to get bedded in so that they can be ready if called upon for the European qualifiers – whether that be the Champions League or Europa League – that will come early in the summer. AND ANOTHER THING… I was sad to hear about the passing of Bobby Brown on Wednesday at the age of 96. He was a true Rangers legend. That word gets bandied about an awful lot these days, but Bobby was fully deserving of the title. He was a great goalkeeper for Rangers and he went on to manage Scotland to some great results too. I saw him a couple of years back at a Rangers function and I sat down and had a chat with him. Even in his 90s, he was still really chatty and could recall lots of great memories of his time at the club. It was fascinating to listen to him and a real pleasure. He was the epitome really of what a Rangers man should be. He was one of the last of the old traditionalists, who summed up the values of the club. He was of the ilk that believed a Rangers player wasn’t only representing the club on a Saturday, but at all times. If supporters or just people in general were seeing you around the town, you should have a shirt and tie on and be respectful of what the club stands for. That was how he behaved and how he brought up his players to behave. A lot of Rangers fans won’t even have been born when he was around the club, but I’m sure that his memory will be honoured fittingly by the supporters. Over and above anything else, he was a lovely person and a real gentleman. RIP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Yes, I've no reason not to. We'll agree to disagree then. Like I said, I'm usually very protective of officials but the video footage just looks extremely odd...may well be the truth; I prefer honesty from the horses mouth or their superiors. All we've got is the records unattributed report and a guy on a fans forum corroborating. Given all the talk about it, it's hard to not be suspicious in the absence of nothing being said. Did you ask why Brown or Julien weren't cited? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, magic8ball said: It was said that the ref didn’t think Katic saw it the first time ,so it was 1card for Katic ,🤪 Compliance officer should then have been citing Lego for his punch on Tav ,Another thing the media have obviously known about but chose to ignore it , Also at the time of the punch somebody in the Sky sports studio would have noticed this and if it had happened at the other end you can bet your last penny that it would have been replayed to death Sky will ramp up their shite next season .After BT losing Scottish games .Would never give them a bean Just listening to walker constantly get our games ,is a scandal .Bring back Scott booth .It is that tragic 😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Did they tell you what exactly he was booked for? 'Additional misconduct' (unsporting behaviour). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: We'll agree to disagree then. Like I said, I'm usually very protective of officials but the video footage just looks extremely odd...may well be the truth; I prefer honesty from the horses mouth or their superiors. All we've got is the records unattributed report and a guy on a fans forum corroborating. Given all the talk about it, it's hard to not be suspicious in the absence of nothing being said. Did you ask why Brown or Julien weren't cited? Feel free to contact them yourself. I may be a guy on a fans forum but I'm also a journalist and made them aware it was for a news story I was working on that should be going live in a few minutes. Funnily enough, when I contact them for comment it's not 'The Dude from RM' but 'James Black of GRV Media' . Julien and Brown are both for the compliance officer, who has been asked for an explanation but one has yet to arrive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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