The Dude 20,026 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 59 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: His best pals are all from the other side. No doubt about it Cringe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,082 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Certainly no ignorance on my part. While some might want to claim certain parts of the British Army's history for the UVF. The UVF were no more part of the Army as Hearts or Falkirk were.. mate we don't all have to agree on the uvf but there's countless songs about they guys sacrifices and historical references to.them in songs and literature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, lidorfc said: You give off heavy mass shooter vibes mate 😂 take a day off from the internet. I am ex Army if that helps, i only do the "Internet" forum as this every few days if lucky, unlike the dude, who seems like he has Rangers media notifications every second of a 24 period along beside his shite antagonising military history spout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: mate we don't all have to agree on the uvf but there's countless songs about they guys sacrifices and historical references to.them in songs and literature Mate, I've absolutely no issue agreeing that the sacrifice made by them sits alongside any others and in no way am I trying to take away from that. But to say the UVF was a 'legitimate' part of the British Army during WWI isn't accurate. Many of its members signed up but the same can be said of many groups across the county who signed up and fought alongside friends, neighbours, colleagues, political allies, team-mates and all sorts of others they were linked. Either way, there's also songs sung about the modern version, which to my original point is a proscribed terrorist group which was the complaint about BLM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,082 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Dude said: Mate, I've absolutely no issue agreeing that the sacrifice made by them sits alongside any others and in no way am I trying to take away from that. But to say the UVF was a 'legitimate' part of the British Army during WWI isn't accurate. Many of its members signed up but the same can be said of many groups across the county who signed up and fought alongside friends, neighbours, colleagues, political allies, team-mates and all sorts of others they were linked. Either way, there's also songs sung about the modern version, which to my original point is a proscribed terrorist group which was the complaint about BLM. Maybe shouldn't jump in half way through then am away ae bed 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Maybe shouldn't jump in half way through then am away ae bed 🤣 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter huistra 1,740 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 They were a legitimate part of the British Army commissioned by Kitchener himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, peter huistra said: They were a legitimate part of the British Army commissioned by Kitchener himself. Youll be here all fucking night wi that wan mate, enjoy and good night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter huistra 1,740 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: Youll be here all fucking night wi that wan mate, enjoy and good night Just pointing out a fact. This debate has been had year on year on this forum and he will always point to the modern version during the troubles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, peter huistra said: They were a legitimate part of the British Army commissioned by Kitchener himself. They weren't. There's no disputing many of their members joined the 36th Ulster Division but there were also many who weren't in the UVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter huistra 1,740 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: They weren't. There's no disputing many of their members joined the 36th Ulster Division but there were also many who weren't in the UVF. A very large percentage came from the UVF , which became the Ulster Army made up mainly of young men from the Shankill area to say they were not a legitimate part is just semantics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Bad Robot said: you mention you think the UK has a racism issue and I said I don’t think Scotland has, even though the stats will tell you it’s ten times the issue up here than sectarianism. I do see sectarianism regularly but never racism and was just saying the only time I see it is from an Asian friend and it’s a whole lot more than just his prejudices. I also believe Racism is both systematic and personal with prejudices being just one driver amongst others such as hate, paranoia, jealousy or whatever. Another issue in this country is the policy makers (usually white lefty middle age liberals) don’t think there can be racism against whites, whether that’s systematic or personal. Sorry I don’t live in Scotland so can’t comment further on that other than to say national statistics will always be far more accurate that one persons personal experience. I’m also centre right not on the left and believe that last point to be false for the reasons I’ve listed in the other post. Going to leave it there though if you don’t mind 👍🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Robertson though eh?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,330 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Leeds_Bear said: Robertson though eh?! Great guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersey-rangers 217 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 7 hours ago, The Dude said: Mate, I've absolutely no issue agreeing that the sacrifice made by them sits alongside any others and in no way am I trying to take away from that. But to say the UVF was a 'legitimate' part of the British Army during WWI isn't accurate. Many of its members signed up but the same can be said of many groups across the county who signed up and fought alongside friends, neighbours, colleagues, political allies, team-mates and all sorts of others they were linked. Either way, there's also songs sung about the modern version, which to my original point is a proscribed terrorist group which was the complaint about BLM. dude is ok guy tells it how it iz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billythebear77 10,386 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 6 hours ago, peter huistra said: A very large percentage came from the UVF , which became the Ulster Army made up mainly of young men from the Shankill area to say they were not a legitimate part is just semantics. Ignore him man, he’s a fukkin mongo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomger 874 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, jersey-Rangers said: dude is ok guy tells it how it iz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,537 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Riddy of a thread now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,530 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, jersey-Rangers said: dude is ok guy tells it how it iz So you agree with him that RM members out defending the statues are potential peados aye? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,746 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I think we should lock this. It is embarrasing now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, Blue Nosed Babe said: I think we should lock this. It is embarrasing now. It wasn't embarrassing when posters were suggesting our players were being hoodwinked/lying about by a Marxist plot to subvert capitalism and promote an anti-white agenda? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluekev 44,087 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: It wasn't embarrassing when posters were suggesting our players were being hoodwinked/lying about by a Marxist plot to subvert capitalism and promote an anti-white agenda? It was and that's why it kept getting locked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumi 0 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Hodge Twins Speak Sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craiggybear 6,192 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 The last 10 pages ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyorr 15 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 21/07/2020 at 05:11, southcoastbear said: And on what basis are you, Actually, basing this statement . Most on this forum who appear to be taking issue with this object to the BLM support being used rather than the clubs own anti racism program everyone anyone. So it appears while some things may be simple the basic premise of your statement is flawed and its inference somewhat objectionable. What does it matter whos campaign is being used? Again, you are either pro racism or anti racism. There is no mystical 3rd option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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