TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: We can’t just keep blaming the referees when the board or manager does nothing to correct it. We know going into the Hibs game they will get the referees help. Hibs and other teams know they can elbow players in the face, stamp on players feet ,get offside goals and nothing will be done. Either we need a team that can win with the fenians referees playing a substantial role in the game or we need a football team with a senior management that won’t bend over to be shafted. We don’t have a manger and we don’t have a board that can do either of them things. As long as the referees keep costing us games then yes we keep blaming the referees. I'm not sure how the club addresses what's happening because if you call them out the governing body will hit the club with sanctions. This can't go on though. Teams are kicking holes (literally) in our players, our players get carded for nothing at times, and teams are scoring against us like the offside rule doesn't even apply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: The whistle never went though and mistakes by our defence allowed the ball to end up in the net. Blaming officials every time we drop points is pathetic we could and should have won that game today regardless of any dodgy decision ya violent offender. The whistle should've went though. If the Hibs player wasn't in an offside position then our defenders would've been further back and able to deal with him better. But, since the opposition player was in an offside position I wont blame the defenders at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, TMB said: As long as the referees keep costing us games then yes we keep blaming the referees. I'm not sure how the club addresses what's happening because if you call them out the governing body will hit the club with sanctions. This can't go on though. Teams are kicking holes (literally) in our players, our players get carded for nothing at times, and teams are scoring against us like the offside rule doesn't even apply. And blindly refusing to blame the players means they continually make the same mistakes over and over again, costing us time and again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said: And Goldsons flick around the corner that led to it? The second goal was offside and should never have stood. I wont be blaming Rangers defenders today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloUSAGers 1,248 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Kent has the first touch of an American. Kamara was a passenger for 70 minutes. Lost the ball at the halfway line which led to the first goal. Davis is a black hole in midfield. Time stops when he receives the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, TMB said: The whistle should've went though. If the player wasn't in an offside position then our defenders would've been further back and able to deal with him better. But, since the opposition player was in an offside position I wont blame the defenders at all. Goldson moved out of position when he fucked the clearance, the space the boy moved into was behind big diddy after his poofy wee flicked clearance put us under the cosh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,617 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, TMB said: The whistle should've went though. If the player wasn't in an offside position then our defenders would've been further back and able to deal with him better. But, since the opposition player was in an offside position I wont blame the defenders at all. Always cheated never defeated, mind we used to batter the Tarriers with that one. Changed days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, Jimbeamjunior said: And blindly refusing to blame the players means they continually make the same mistakes over and over again, costing us time and again Blindly refusing to acknowledge a refereeing error cost us the 3 points, but pointing fingers at our players instead, achieves what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Goldson moved out of position when he fucked the clearance, the space the boy moved into was behind big diddy after his poofy wee flicked clearance put us under the cosh None of this matters as the Hibs player was offside and the officials should've blown the whistle and stopped play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiger Shaw said: Always cheated never defeated, mind we used to batter the Tarriers with that one. Changed days. Today the officials cost us the 3 points by allowing Hibs to score an offside goal. I'll never be convinced of otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, TMB said: Blindly refusing to acknowledge a refereeing error cost us the 3 points, but pointing fingers at our players instead, achieves what? Well given the officials error came about BECAUSE of goldson making a cunt of it, then the goal starts with him, the buck stops at him, he clears it, no offside for them to miss How do you not get this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,617 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, TMB said: Blindly refusing to acknowledge a refereeing error cost us the 3 points, but pointing fingers at our players instead, achieves what? Defence does its job and clear their lines then there’s no offside decision to be made. what does constantly ignoring poor defending and blaming the ref instead achieve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Whelan 138 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Annoying, we completely controlled that game. Missing key players was the difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, TMB said: None of this matters as the Hibs player was offside and the officials should've blown the whistle and stopped play. Of course it matters, goldson didnt do his job, you slam the officials for not doing theirs while allowing the big tit away with not doing his own Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, TMB said: As long as the referees keep costing us games then yes we keep blaming the referees. I'm not sure how the club addresses what's happening because if you call them out the governing body will hit the club with sanctions. This can't go on though. Teams are kicking holes (literally) in our players, our players get carded for nothing at times, and teams are scoring against us like the offside rule doesn't even apply. We know what the referees are going to do. If we want to compete we must compete against the SFA/SPFL controlled referees and compliance officer, we either do that on the pitch or off it but just now we are doing neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiger Shaw said: Defence does its job and clear their lines then there’s no Offside decision to be made. what does constantly ignoring poor defending and blaming the ref instead achieve? The defense played the Hibs striker offside so it was job done. The referee never blew his whistle when he should've and play continued when it shouldn't have. So we blame the defenders because the referee can't do his job competently? Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Whelan 138 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Annoying, we completely controlled that game. Missing key players was the difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Of course it matters, goldson didnt do his job, you slam the officials for not doing theirs while allowing the big tit away with not doing his own It doesn't matter because the whistle for offside should've happened instantly and ended that passage of play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, TMB said: The defense played the Hibs striker offside so it was job done. The referee never blew his whistle when he should've and play continued when it shouldn't have. So we blame the defenders because the referee can't do his job competently? Nah. The defence also played the ball straight to a hibs midfielders foot 2 seconds before, so we blame the officials for goldson making a cunt of it? Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,617 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, TMB said: The defense played the Hibs striker offside so it was job done. The referee never blew his whistle when he should've and play continued when it shouldn't have. So we blame the defenders because the referee can't do his job competently? Nah. So no mistakes by our defence in the build up to the goal... 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, TMB said: It doesn't matter because the whistle for offside should've happened instantly and ended that passage of play. So goldsons mistake, which led to the officials having an offside decision to spot, doesnt matter There you have it folks, mistakes don't matter if something else happens after the mistake, If you wanna go that route, lets blame arfield for missing that chance at 2-2, thats how it works surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritofBillStruth 167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Rinse and repeat. Groundhog season. We all know how it ends. Board don't care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkiebear 1,013 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Hypothetical question here. If we went on to put the ball in the net twice and both got disallowed Incorrectly for nothing, is it still the players fault for not getting the 3 points or are you allowed to blame the ref? For what it’s worth I couldn’t see much wrong when alfie put the ball in the net at the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: So goldsons mistake, which led to the officials having an offside decision to spot, doesnt matter No, because the Hibs player was offside when the ball was played to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, TMB said: No, because the Hibs player was offside when the ball was played to him. So you dont think goldson made a mistake then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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