Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, kirkiebear said: Hypothetical question here. If we went on to put the ball in the net twice and both got disallowed Incorrectly for nothing, is it still the players fault for not getting the 3 points or are you allowed to blame the ref? For what it’s worth I couldn’t see much wrong when alfie put the ball in the net at the end. Hypothetical question, if goldson puts that clearance out the stadium, do hibs score that second goal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, kirkiebear said: Hypothetical question here. If we went on to put the ball in the net twice and both got disallowed Incorrectly for nothing, is it still the players fault for not getting the 3 points or are you allowed to blame the ref? For what it’s worth I couldn’t see much wrong when alfie put the ball in the net at the end. It's a great point. What will it take before people accept the refereeing mistakes cost us the points? If Rangers scored a perfectly good goal, but it was wrongfully chopped off, would we blame the attackers for not scoring a winner after the game? You need to look at what happened today and understand that we were robbed of a win by that refereeing error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: So you dont think goldson made a mistake then? The officials made a mistake by allowing an offside goal to stand. Our team and manager did nothing wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkiebear 1,013 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, ****Rangers_no1**** said: There is certainly clear cheating and corruption but in games like today when a marginal offside is not given I detest our fans acting like scum fans. Wright challenge - Should have been a yellow Porteous - Yellow was correct Hanlon - 50/50 but still thinking I would be raging if Goldson was sent off for that Helander and Tav could have seen yellows as well. Im more pissed off at the poor defending, missing sitters and players not at a level they should be. First team to really attack us and my concerns defensively and going forward was evident. Clean sheets papering over the cracks. I totally get what you’re saying here , but the way I look at it, if it was Morelos on Porteous and Goldson with that elbow, then I think Rangers would be down to 9 men before half time. It’s been obvious for a while now our players are punished differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, TMB said: If the refs rule out Hibs second goal we win the game. There’s no point talk about chances we might have taken. The officials do their job properly and we leave with all 3 points. Exactly, you can't expect to take every chance you create in a game. Once again we done enough to get the three points if the officials do their job properly, and once again we've been fucked over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkiebear 1,013 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Hypothetical question, if goldson puts that clearance out the stadium, do hibs score that second goal? Ofcourse not , if Goldson punts that clearance and it’s ends up with alfie who slots away , but incorrectly gets flagged off, are our players still at fault for not doing enough to win 🤷♂️ All hypothetical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, TMB said: The officials made a mistake by allowing an offside goal to stand. Our team and manager did nothing wrong. Did goldson make a mistake at the 2nd goal, yes or no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, kirkiebear said: Ofcourse not , if Goldson punts that clearance and it’s ends up with alfie who slots away , but incorrectly gets flagged off, are our players still at fault for not doing enough to win 🤷♂️ All hypothetical. Well if it stays at 2-1 because goldson cleared his lines then we win, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Amato said: Exactly, you can't expect to take every chance you create in a game. Once again we done enough to get the three points if the officials do their job properly, and once again we've been fucked over Why are people refusing to admit goldson fucked it at the 2nd goal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkiebear 1,013 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 If it was celtic today with that performance , and with the hibs goal getting disallowed, everyone would be saying it’s a grinded out win and thats what champions do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Why are people refusing to admit goldson fucked it at the 2nd goal? I'm not. But it was still offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Thats where the linesman missed the offside, before then goldson made one if not two mistakes, his fairy flick to the hibs boy on the ball, or the fact he stepped out of position leaving that big fucking hole in behind him leaving helander exposed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Why are people refusing to admit goldson fucked it at the 2nd goal? Because it’s irrelevant as the Hibs player was offside and the goal should never have stood. Why are you so hell bent on blaming our defenders for a refereeing error? ‘Aye it was offside and should never have stood but Goldosn!’ - It makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,386 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: Alfredo should have scored with the header first half and they double saves at the end Arfield hit them straight at him. Don’t think Arfield had much option, both landed at his feet and he did the best he could, the second one was an outstanding save. If anything Kent’s effort was more wasteful than Arfield’s as he had time and Morelos nearby. Bottom line was we were wasteful in front of goal, wasteful in defence for the 2nd and their keeper had a good game. We were pretty shite o/all .... it was a pretty flat performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Amato said: I'm not. But it was still offside. But the offside doesnt even happen if the big donkey clears his lines, why blame officials when they were put in that position by goldson making a cunt of it again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Thats where the linesman missed the offside, before then goldson made one if not two mistakes, his fairy flick to the hibs boy on the ball, or the fact he stepped out of position leaving that big fucking hole in behind him leaving helander exposed He didn’t “step out of position”. By stepping forward he places the Hibs striker in an offside position. Play should be stopped and it’s a free-kick to Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, TMB said: Because it’s irrelevant as the Hibs player was offside and the goal should never have stood. Why are you so hell bent on blaming our defenders for a refereeing error? ‘Aye it was offside and should never have stood but Goldosn!’ - It makes no sense. There we have it folks, a defender not clearing his lines and instead passing it to an opposing midfielder 30 yards from goal is now irrelevant 😂😂😂 The officials dont have a job to do at that second goal is goldson does his, do you agree with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, TMB said: He didn’t “step out of position”. By stepping forward he places the Hibs striker in an offside position. Play should be stopped and it’s a free-kick to Rangers. Jesus christ, he didn't step up to play the boy offside ffs, he had no intention of playing the offside as he tried to pass the ball to one of our midfielders and fucked it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: There we have it folks, a defender not clearing his lines and instead passing it to an opposing midfielder 30 yards from goal is now irrelevant 😂😂😂 The officials dont have a job to do at that second goal is goldson does his, do you agree with that? Even Gerrard surprisingly said Goldson fucked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, Supersonic said: Even Gerrard surprisingly said Goldson fucked it. But TMB says he didnt 😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkiebear 1,013 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Ofcourse Goldson makes a mistake , but I have no idea how that then justifies an offside goal being allowed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritofBillStruth 167 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Supersonic said: Even Gerrard surprisingly said Goldson fucked it. But will still pick him next week..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 4,654 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, SpiritofBillStruth said: But will still pick him next week..... Absolutely. McLaughlin and Helander stick ons to be dropped though in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, kirkiebear said: Ofcourse Goldson makes a mistake , but I have no idea how that then justifies an offside goal being allowed. It doesn't, but blanket blaming the officials when the offside only happened because of a defensive error is mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,608 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, Supersonic said: Absolutely. McLaughlin and Helander stick ons to be dropped though in my opinion. Kamara as well, but watch mr floaty chip davis get 90mins again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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