G.E.C. 19,594 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 10 hours ago, psb07158 said: Barry Ferguson did 62 in 2007-08, maybe Davie Weir that season too ? Cuellar played 65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,164 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 hours ago, The Dude said: And how, in this scenario, does that suggest Goldson doesn't want to be here? I would have assumed you could have worked that out yourself, obviously not so what's the point of discussing it with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,028 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said: By being thrown under a bus, dropped for worrall after him and goldson conceded something like ten goals in all comps until the villareal away game where worrall was thrown in Then the following season being once again thrown under a bus (him and edmundson) while goldson got away with numerous bombscares You've had this debate on here before im sure He got replaced by Worrall because Worrall was a better centre back The Dude, ger4life_1872 and STEPPS BOY 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, theiconicman said: I would have assumed you could have worked that out yourself, obviously not so what's the point of discussing it with you. Well have a bash at explaining it then. Does Scott Arfield having not signed a new contract yet mean he wants to leave? If not, what makes him different to Goldson? How about McGregor? Does his lack of a new contract mean he doesn't want to be here? Or does it mean we don't want him here if we haven't offered him one? Goldson not signing a new deal yet doesn't mean he doesn't want to remain at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: He got replaced by Worrall because Worrall was a better centre back Basically. There was a reason we signed three more experienced centre-backs after signing Katic. ForeverAndEver 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshireranger 8,646 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: He got replaced by Worrall because Worrall was a better centre back Not for us, he wasnt. Brackley Bluenose 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,028 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, ayrshireranger said: Not for us, he wasnt. Yes he was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,641 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: He got replaced by Worrall because Worrall was a better centre back Never once showed that for us ayrshireranger and JCDBigBear 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueoysterbar 20,233 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: Well have a bash at explaining it then. Does Scott Arfield having not signed a new contract yet mean he wants to leave? If not, what makes him different to Goldson? How about McGregor? Does his lack of a new contract mean he doesn't want to be here? Or does it mean we don't want him here if we haven't offered him one? Goldson not signing a new deal yet doesn't mean he doesn't want to remain at the club. It's kind of about the stage they're at in their careers. If Shagger doesn't sign on for another year it will be him ending his playing career at Rangers. Arfield would like to stay if something can be sorted as I understand. Goldson is at a different stage in his career, rightly or wrongly he believes he is on the up and can command a much higher wage at Rangers or elsewhere if he wants to. It's Goldson who's trying holding Rangers to ransom here, the other two players clearly are not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,709 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 hours ago, The Dude said: By being regularly involved in the first team despite how 'raw' he was and given huge allowances to undergo his rehab away from the club? Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,028 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Never once showed that for us Bollocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,641 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Bollocks His first game he sold the first goal, and lets not forget about killie away that all but killed our title challenge Katic hadnt put a foot wrong before gerrard binned him for worrall JCDBigBear and ayrshireranger 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, theblueoysterbar said: It's kind of about the stage they're at in their careers. If Shagger doesn't sign on for another year it will be him ending his playing career at Rangers. Arfield would like to stay if something can be sorted as I understand. Goldson is at a different stage in his career, rightly or wrongly he believes he is on the up and can command a much higher wage at Rangers or elsewhere if he wants to. It's Goldson who's trying holding Rangers to ransom here, the other two players clearly are not. Rangers haven't offered the other two new contracts yet afaik. Arfield has publicly stated he wants to stay, can we take from that the club don't want him to stay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 77,757 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Katic Clemdog, The Dude, AGC123 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,028 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: His first game he sold the first goal, and lets not forget about killie away that all but killed our title challenge Katic hadnt put a foot wrong before gerrard binned him for worrall Hardly sold the first goal, and aye he had a stinker for that. As did McAuley and McGregor for the second that really killed the chances then. His performance at New Year against them is as good as if not better than any Katic performance. Katic was and always will be ridiculously overrated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, Jimbeamjunior said: His first game he sold the first goal, and lets not forget about killie away that all but killed our title challenge Katic hadnt put a foot wrong before gerrard binned him for worrall He was piss poor away to Motherwell 3-3. ForeverAndEver 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,641 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, The Dude said: He was piss poor away to Motherwell 3-3. Ah the game we went to a back 3 with Flanagan in that back 3, and he still never caused a goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,641 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Hardly sold the first goal, and aye he had a stinker for that. As did McAuley and McGregor for the second that really killed the chances then. His performance at New Year against them is as good as if not better than any Katic performance. Katic was and always will be ridiculously overrated The same katic who strolled the 2-1 pre covid game and scored the winner? Worrall never produced anything better than katic, and Katic was our player JCDBigBear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, Jimbeamjunior said: Ah the game we went to a back 3 with Flanagan in that back 3, and he still never caused a goal Concede two goals from headers inside the box and the CB is blameless even the one where he lost his man and made a half-arsed attempt at winning a header. (Goldson was wank too) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, Jimbeamjunior said: The same katic who strolled the 2-1 pre covid game and scored the winner? Worrall never produced anything better than katic, and Katic was our player So was Worrall. He played for Rangers that entire season. He was as much a Rangers player as any of the others in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,641 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, The Dude said: So was Worrall. He played for Rangers that entire season. He was as much a Rangers player as any of the others in the squad. No he was borrowed, and given he went back to his owner club, what exactly did he contribute that katic couldnt have, we spent money to loan him and pay him ans for what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI 930 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Dude said: Well have a bash at explaining it then. Does Scott Arfield having not signed a new contract yet mean he wants to leave? If not, what makes him different to Goldson? How about McGregor? Does his lack of a new contract mean he doesn't want to be here? Or does it mean we don't want him here if we haven't offered him one? Goldson not signing a new deal yet doesn't mean he doesn't want to remain at the club. You can't compare McGregor and Arfield's situations to Goldson's one. They are at different stages of their career and I think we need Goldson more than we need Arfield, still unsure about McGregor and the GK spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: No he was borrowed, and given he went back to his owner club, what exactly did he contribute that katic couldnt have, we spent money to loan him and pay him ans for what? Any different to a player on a one-year deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,028 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: The same katic who strolled the 2-1 pre covid game and scored the winner? Worrall never produced anything better than katic, and Katic was our player We’ve been on a roll of agreeing Jim, don’t ruin it with this shit please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, NI said: You can't compare McGregor and Arfield's situations to Goldson's one. They are at different stages of their career and I think we need Goldson more than we need Arfield, still unsure about McGregor and the GK spot. Why can't we compare them? Why we can take that Goldson doesn't want to be here because he's not signed a new contract, but its not fair to say the club don't want Arfield to stay because we've not offered him a new deal despite his publicly-stated willingness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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