Jamie0202 13,011 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Helicopter Sundae said: The simplest way to understand this controversy is to think of the situation in tennis...Hawkeye shows a virtual image of the overhead view of exactly where the ball landed and if any part of the ball touches any part of the line, even if it is 99.9% outside of the line, IT IS IN. There is a photo, taken in line with the goal line, which perfectly shows that a small amount of the ball was still in play. Tennis is a poor comparison. As you say the ball is in if the ball touches the line but out if it doesn't. That's different to football which is where some people are getting their knickers in a twist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineBlue 25,697 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 These Uruguayan antics are so embarrassing, man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,322 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Uruguay are the class act of the World Cup when it comes to exaggerating contact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, Jamie0202 said: Tennis is a poor comparison. As you say the ball is in if the ball touches the line but out if it doesn't. That's different to football which is where some people are getting their knickers in a twist. Helicopter Sundae's description of the ball needing to touch the like isn't true, but otherwise he's right, at least on the Hawkeye era. In tennis, as in football, if any of the ball overhangs the line in anyway, it's in, even if the part that touches the court is all the way over the line, because Hawkeye will show it as in. In the days before Hawkeye, when players and umpires used marks left by the ball, only the part that touches the court would decide whether it was in or not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Am I stupid, or is it completely irrelevant whether the ball is going out of play when a foul in the box is committed against the attacker? It's a penalty if you foul a player who never had the ball in the first place, so why not one who has just lost possession? McEwan's Lager and TheKingObv 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,373 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 In his defence. Fuck off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,860 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, JamieD said: Am I stupid, or is it completely irrelevant whether the ball is going out of play when a foul in the box is committed against the attacker? It's a penalty if you foul a player who never had the ball in the first place, so why not one who has just lost possession? Appears to be a weird unwritten. See it happen all the time where the striker gets his shot away but the defender or keeper then takes him out and nothing is given. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Jamie0202 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 32,047 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, JamieD said: Am I stupid, or is it completely irrelevant whether the ball is going out of play when a foul in the box is committed against the attacker? It's a penalty if you foul a player who never had the ball in the first place, so why not one who has just lost possession? Yeah, this was what I was saying the other night in the Argentina game. If that was given as a penalty then the types of fouls you are talking about should also be penalties but they are not routinely given. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 32,047 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I think, theoretically, if the striker gets a shot away and gets clattered after the ball has already gone out of play the ref can't give a penalty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,322 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Honestly, a large proportion of the commentators and pundits in this WC are thick as fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,322 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Defo penalty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 35,383 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 This ref Scottish ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Clear pen. Ref is a fucking idiot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,373 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Got his toe on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 30,495 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Not sure how thats not given Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 92,610 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, ger4life_1872 said: Not sure how thats not given The angle focused on him getting a touch on the ball, made the refs mind up ger4life_1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Did Nunez handball it when he controlled it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 32,047 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, Moody Blue Legend said: Got his toe on it. He's fouling him and Nunez is going down because of it before the touch though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 32,047 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, psb07158 said: Did Nunez handball it when he controlled it? Possibly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Using fair play stats to decide group placings is anti-Uruguayan racism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,373 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Not getting into it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,322 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Much as I enjoy the Uruguayans being bastards, it'd be gold if they went out on fair play stats. TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 32,047 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Take away the possible handball (because VAR officials clearly thought it wasn't in order to send the ref to the TV) that's another incident in this tournament where it was more of a penalty than the one Portugal got in their opening game. RangersMedia 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,373 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Inigo said: Much as I enjoy the Uruguayans being bastards, it'd be gold if they went out on fair play stats. And should have had a red. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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