stuartm 7 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I actually think Kirk's got reasonably good feet for a Scottish centre back :sgtg: But Hutton's clearly in a different class when it comes to playing RB. sense prevails... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braq81 0 Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share Posted September 10, 2008 Its a totally different set of circumstances with big Kirk....he has no footballing skill whatsoever....he can try and try his heart out all day but he'll never be able to read the game or have the agility or touch that is needed to play for the Gers. IMO you have just summed up Nacho Novo as much as you have summed up Broadfoot, and he's considered a hero among some sections of our support, and a legend among other parts If the majority gave Broadfoot the same backing as they give Novo then he'd look far more assured and confident than he does now. Novo is a favourite only to the section of the supporters who either don't rate us that highly as a team or are completely ignorant as to what makes a good footballer. Scoring the odd goal, be it a decent effort or otherwise is not good enough. You have to play consistently well and perform to a standard well abov the average player in scotland to be "rangers class" in my book! We have settled for joe average for way too long in my book. Remember....this is a team who have fielded players such as Gazza, Laudrup, Ian Durrant, Stuart McCall, Numan, Gatuso, Gough, Butcher...all who played for the jersey and with enormous ability and class. We also had the pleasure of the skill of the likes of Van Bronkhorst, Arteta, and even De Boer to a lesser extent.....to name but a few!! How can we have players like that over a number of eras...and then end up settling for the likes of Novo, Broadfoot, Darchieville, Miller and other headless chickens who....if they score the odd goal against celtic...are all of a sudden club legends?? fuck right off! Kris Boyd is statistically the 3rd most prestigous goal scorer in the clubs history...he has a goal to game ratio of 66% for the club. The guy we'd all see knighted in a second..."sir" Ally McCoist has a goal-game ratio of 63%. Granted Boyd has played 472games less, but if he plays for us until the same age as ally did then we have 11years of kris Boyd goals to look forward to.....and he cant even get a game!! What ever the fuck the club policy is on who we do and dont play....its pish!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy2212 151 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hutton by a million miles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander2006 50 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Its a totally different set of circumstances with big Kirk....he has no footballing skill whatsoever....he can try and try his heart out all day but he'll never be able to read the game or have the agility or touch that is needed to play for the Gers. IMO you have just summed up Nacho Novo as much as you have summed up Broadfoot, and he's considered a hero among some sections of our support, and a legend among other parts If the majority gave Broadfoot the same backing as they give Novo then he'd look far more assured and confident than he does now. Novo is a favourite only to the section of the supporters who either don't rate us that highly as a team or are completely ignorant as to what makes a good footballer. Scoring the odd goal, be it a decent effort or otherwise is not good enough. You have to play consistently well and perform to a standard well abov the average player in scotland to be "rangers class" in my book! We have settled for joe average for way too long in my book. Remember....this is a team who have fielded players such as Gazza, Laudrup, Ian Durrant, Stuart McCall, Numan, Gatuso, Gough, Butcher...all who played for the jersey and with enormous ability and class. We also had the pleasure of the skill of the likes of Van Bronkhorst, Arteta, and even De Boer to a lesser extent.....to name but a few!! How can we have players like that over a number of eras...and then end up settling for the likes of Novo, Broadfoot, Darchieville, Miller and other headless chickens who....if they score the odd goal against celtic...are all of a sudden club legends?? fuck right off! Kris Boyd is statistically the 3rd most prestigous goal scorer in the clubs history...he has a goal to game ratio of 66% for the club. The guy we'd all see knighted in a second..."sir" Ally McCoist has a goal-game ratio of 63%. Granted Boyd has played 472games less, but if he plays for us until the same age as ally did then we have 11years of kris Boyd goals to look forward to.....and he cant even get a game!! What ever the fuck the club policy is on who we do and dont play....its pish!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 To answer the opening post, Hutton was never especially wonderful at defending - indeed he excels when going forward on those mazy runs. Broadfoot is a reliable wee stopper who isn't quite Nesta but gets the job done. Going forward he has neither the pace nor skill of Hutton, but you know what? He can cross damn near as well at times. So while Hutton is clearly the better player, Broadfoot has his own qualities which shouldn't be dismissed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Kris Boyd is statistically the 3rd most prestigous goal scorer in the clubs history...he has a goal to game ratio of 66% for the club. The guy we'd all see knighted in a second..."sir" Ally McCoist has a goal-game ratio of 63%. Granted Boyd has played 472games less, but if he plays for us until the same age as ally did then we have 11years of kris Boyd goals to look forward to.....and he cant even get a game!! What ever the fuck the club policy is on who we do and dont play....its pish!! I think you're underestimating the effect that those 472 games may have. Given Boyd current starts to games ratio (along with his blatant lack of overall improvement), how long is it going to take him to play another 472 games?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 277 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 It's clearly Hutton but hats off to Big Kirk He has put in some really good performances this year so far and is establishinh himself He will never be a Hutton but is he enough for the SPL? I'd say his handling of McGayday (who lets face it is the best out and out winger in this league) shows he is. If he can handle the wee greetin faced traitor then he can handle anyone the SPL throws at him. Kirk Broadfoot - The Rangers Right Back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 To answer the opening post, Hutton was never especially wonderful at defending - indeed he excels when going forward on those mazy runs. Broadfoot is a reliable wee stopper who isn't quite Nesta but gets the job done. Going forward he has neither the pace nor skill of Hutton, but you know what? He can cross damn near as well at times. So while Hutton is clearly the better player, Broadfoot has his own qualities which shouldn't be dismissed. I think it's like comparing women's football to the male game, and saying it's shite. You can't do that - it's that simple. Take them as they are. Hutton is a superb, athletic right back who could beat players all day long. Broadfoot is a makeshift rightback who is improving with every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 To answer the opening post, Hutton was never especially wonderful at defending - indeed he excels when going forward on those mazy runs. Broadfoot is a reliable wee stopper who isn't quite Nesta but gets the job done. Going forward he has neither the pace nor skill of Hutton, but you know what? He can cross damn near as well at times. So while Hutton is clearly the better player, Broadfoot has his own qualities which shouldn't be dismissed. I think it's like comparing women's football to the male game, and saying it's shite. You can't do that - it's that simple. Take them as they are. Hutton is a superb, athletic right back who could beat players all day long. Broadfoot is a makeshift rightback who is improving with every game. Hutton has never scored for Scotland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 To answer the opening post, Hutton was never especially wonderful at defending - indeed he excels when going forward on those mazy runs. Broadfoot is a reliable wee stopper who isn't quite Nesta but gets the job done. Going forward he has neither the pace nor skill of Hutton, but you know what? He can cross damn near as well at times. So while Hutton is clearly the better player, Broadfoot has his own qualities which shouldn't be dismissed. I think it's like comparing women's football to the male game, and saying it's shite. You can't do that - it's that simple. Take them as they are. Hutton is a superb, athletic right back who could beat players all day long. Broadfoot is a makeshift rightback who is improving with every game. Hutton has never scored for Scotland But he has single handedly demolished Italy's left side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,734 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 To answer the opening post, Hutton was never especially wonderful at defending - indeed he excels when going forward on those mazy runs. Broadfoot is a reliable wee stopper who isn't quite Nesta but gets the job done. Going forward he has neither the pace nor skill of Hutton, but you know what? He can cross damn near as well at times. So while Hutton is clearly the better player, Broadfoot has his own qualities which shouldn't be dismissed. Hutton put in the work to improve, broadfoot could well do the same, and it looks like he is. I didnt mind his skills against mcgeady either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenziebee 0 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Braq81 is this even legal to try and differ these 2 lol when you may know that its hutton hands down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braq81 0 Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Why do people keep sayin broadfoot marked mcgeady out the game? he had no part in keepin that we dick quiet....it was Davis trackin back that kept him out the game....Broadfoots garbage....pure and simple.....to sa he is good enough for spl is nonsense. our shit reputation in europe is down to the fact that we buy players to get us by in the spl. Last years euro run, while an amazing feat....was a one off. theres no way we'd get to any european final playing that style of football ever again....and by having muppets like broadfoot in the team...thers no chance of us playing a better standard or style of football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofb1988 61 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 hmmmm 95% will say Hutton. The other 5% are Timmy in disguise. KIRK BROADFOOT does that make me a tim? In seriousness, there is no competition. Its Alan Hutton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strar8 55 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Hutton definitely by far, hats off to Broadfoot stepping up to the plate keeping Whittaker out the team...he's been utter pish! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersDude90 1 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Alan Hutton was very poor, then became exceptional. Kirk Broadfoot has been poor at times, but has shown glimmers of real quality. Could be another success story in the making here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebaz 0 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 mind when hutton broke in to the first team he was shit ask us when kirk has had the same time hutton had right now i say hutton but given time who knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol 401 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Kirk Broadfoot is nowhere near as bad as certain people make out. He's a decent defender although I think he'd suit centre back more than right back. Having said that, Alan Hutton is clearly a better player and, in particular, a better right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Simple answer - Would any team pay 9m for Broadfoot - Answer = NO. Hutton is the better player. Broadfoot is an ok player, but just not that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadaready 9,437 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Hutton who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,788 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Have you seen any of the games this season? Did you only join the forum to slate Kirk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafloppyone 0 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Hutton is the better player but kirk is progressing quite nicely which is all you can ask Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracle 7,834 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Broadfoot's been quicker to come on to a game than Hutton was so lets see what happens by January! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polar bear 0 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Fuckin hell it's not even close Hutton. Three years ago,if the same question had been asked about Hutton or Ricksen,you probably would have answered: Fuckin hell it's not even close,Ricksen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer 4 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 bit harsh comparing him with Hutton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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