KingKirk 25,647 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Anyone see their many story, more info about D&P Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Just read it on their website, they claim to have taped evidence that D&P were aware of the ticketus deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 just caught the tail end of it. i wonder what the New New BBC have made up now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Forever 179 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Anyone see their many story, more info about D&PWhat were they saying? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,798 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Anyone see their many story, more info about D&PJust watched it, Whyte seems to have recorded a coversation. Not sure what it means really. Hopefully someone on here will understand it better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Jail time on the horizon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20074388 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 How would BBC get a hold of this? Astounding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Just read it on their website, they claim to have taped evidence that D&P were aware of the ticketus deal.Really? so why bring it up now. So they have had info but covered it up until now. They are a fucking joke The BBC Knew! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh_capet 341 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Trying to deflect attention away from their paedo ring Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Really? so why bring it up now. So they have had info but covered it up until now. They are a fucking joke The BBC Knew!Apparently Craig Whyte recorded the conversation and has given them access to it, that is the claim at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabWylie 3 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Save giving them the trafficBy Mark DalyBBC Scotland Investigations CorrespondentMr Grier has said he was only aware of the Ticketus deal in August 2011BBC Scotland has uncovered new evidence showing Rangers administrators Duff and Phelps knew Craig Whyte had sold season tickets to buy the club.It indicates they were intent on denying it because they thought they could get away with it.In May, the BBC suggested Duff and Phelps partner, David Grier, may have known about the £25m Ticketus deal last April, before Mr Whyte's takeover.Mr Grier denied any knowledge of the deal until August 2011.The BBC has obtained a recording of a meeting between Mr Whyte and Mr Grier, which show Duff and Phelps did know.Mr Whyte bought Rangers from Sir David Murray for £1 and paid an £18m debt to Lloyds Bank by selling three years of season tickets to finance firm Ticketus for £25m.As well as being involved in Mr Whyte's takeover, Duff and Phelps were appointed as Rangers' administrators after the club plunged into insolvency in February 2012.In May, a BBC Scotland investigation suggested that Mr Grier may have known that about the controversial Ticketus deal before the Whyte takeover was complete.Mr Grier, and Duff and Phelps, denied the claims and said he was unaware of this particular Ticketus deal until August 2011.Last week, in a BBC interview, Mr Whyte said that "everybody who was involved in the deal team at the time knew about" the Ticketus deal.He added: "They (Duff and Phelps) knew everything, they attended meetings, they were copied into all the emails, they were there on the day of completion. They knew from the start."That claim prompted Rangers' joint administrator Paul Clark, of Duff and Phelps, to respond: "The allegations against the administrators, who are officers of the court, are false, malicious and without foundation."In addition, as administrators, we instigated legal proceedings against Mr Whyte's solicitors (Collyer Bristow) in the High Court in London and those proceedings are centred round the very serious allegation that Mr Whyte was involved in a conspiracy which deprived Rangers of many millions of pounds."Our conduct of the Rangers administration has been the subject of intense public scrutiny and we are wholly satisfied it was carried out to the highest professional standards."BBC Scotland has now received a secret recording that Mr Whyte says he made at a meeting between him and Mr Grier in a private members' club in London on 31 May, after its investigation was broadcast.Craig Whyte met David Grier at a private members club in LondonThe recording, which is to be used in a forthcoming court case involving Duff and Phelps and Mr Whyte's former lawyers Collyer Bristow, has been obtained legitimately by BBC Scotland.During the exchange, Mr Grier said: "I'll tell you what we're doing with that just so you…Mr Whyte: "Yeah.Mr Grier: "We, we went to see counsel yesterday and had a full sort of debrief of all the email correspondence.Mr Whyte: "Yep.Mr Grier: "Now, the fact is that we probably did know what was going on with Ticketus. There's no email traffic whatsoever.Mr Whyte: "That says that you did?"Mr Grier: "That says that we did.Mr White: "But we all know that you did and f****** hell.Mr Grier: "Yeah, yeah. There's no…we were not involved in dealing with Ticketus directly.Mr Whyte: "Yeah. So you knew the structures of the deal. You were dealing with Lloyds.Mr Grier: "Absolutely.Mr Whyte: "And the Ticketus part was Saffreys.Mr Grier "Yeah. So we've maintained that line quite rigorously."BBC Scotland has been able to confirm with a voice recognition expert that the recording is of Mr Grier.Duff and Phelps have yet to respond to the publication of the 31 May conversation.BBC © 2012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Rangers Supporters @rangersfctrustWhyte allegedly recording conversations with Grier. Seems he's intent on taking as many down with him as possible.Expand Reply Retweet Favorite Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Save giving them the trafficBy Mark DalyBBC Scotland Investigations CorrespondentMr Grier has said he was only aware of the Ticketus deal in August 2011BBC Scotland has uncovered new evidence showing Rangers administrators Duff and Phelps knew Craig Whyte had sold season tickets to buy the club.It indicates they were intent on denying it because they thought they could get away with it.In May, the BBC suggested Duff and Phelps partner, David Grier, may have known about the £25m Ticketus deal last April, before Mr Whyte's takeover.Mr Grier denied any knowledge of the deal until August 2011.The BBC has obtained a recording of a meeting between Mr Whyte and Mr Grier, which show Duff and Phelps did know.Mr Whyte bought Rangers from Sir David Murray for £1 and paid an £18m debt to Lloyds Bank by selling three years of season tickets to finance firm Ticketus for £25m.As well as being involved in Mr Whyte's takeover, Duff and Phelps were appointed as Rangers' administrators after the club plunged into insolvency in February 2012.In May, a BBC Scotland investigation suggested that Mr Grier may have known that about the controversial Ticketus deal before the Whyte takeover was complete.Mr Grier, and Duff and Phelps, denied the claims and said he was unaware of this particular Ticketus deal until August 2011.Last week, in a BBC interview, Mr Whyte said that "everybody who was involved in the deal team at the time knew about" the Ticketus deal.He added: "They (Duff and Phelps) knew everything, they attended meetings, they were copied into all the emails, they were there on the day of completion. They knew from the start."That claim prompted Rangers' joint administrator Paul Clark, of Duff and Phelps, to respond: "The allegations against the administrators, who are officers of the court, are false, malicious and without foundation."In addition, as administrators, we instigated legal proceedings against Mr Whyte's solicitors (Collyer Bristow) in the High Court in London and those proceedings are centred round the very serious allegation that Mr Whyte was involved in a conspiracy which deprived Rangers of many millions of pounds."Our conduct of the Rangers administration has been the subject of intense public scrutiny and we are wholly satisfied it was carried out to the highest professional standards."BBC Scotland has now received a secret recording that Mr Whyte says he made at a meeting between him and Mr Grier in a private members' club in London on 31 May, after its investigation was broadcast.Craig Whyte met David Grier at a private members club in LondonThe recording, which is to be used in a forthcoming court case involving Duff and Phelps and Mr Whyte's former lawyers Collyer Bristow, has been obtained legitimately by BBC Scotland.During the exchange, Mr Grier said: "I'll tell you what we're doing with that just so you…Mr Whyte: "Yeah.Mr Grier: "We, we went to see counsel yesterday and had a full sort of debrief of all the email correspondence.Mr Whyte: "Yep.Mr Grier: "Now, the fact is that we probably did know what was going on with Ticketus. There's no email traffic whatsoever.Mr Whyte: "That says that you did?"Mr Grier: "That says that we did.Mr White: "But we all know that you did and f****** hell.Mr Grier: "Yeah, yeah. There's no…we were not involved in dealing with Ticketus directly.Mr Whyte: "Yeah. So you knew the structures of the deal. You were dealing with Lloyds.Mr Grier: "Absolutely.Mr Whyte: "And the Ticketus part was Saffreys.Mr Grier "Yeah. So we've maintained that line quite rigorously."BBC Scotland has been able to confirm with a voice recognition expert that the recording is of Mr Grier.Duff and Phelps have yet to respond to the publication of the 31 May conversation.I can't help reading this without hearing that cunts poofy wee voice ringing in my ears. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,708 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 BBC Scotland has uncovered new evidence showing Rangers administrators Duff and Phelps knew Craig Whyte had sold season tickets to buy the club.It indicates they were intent on denying it because they thought they could get away with it.In May, the BBC suggested Duff and Phelps partner, David Grier, may have known about the £25m Ticketus deal last April, before Mr Whyte's takeover.Mr Grier denied any knowledge of the deal until August 2011.The BBC has obtained a recording of a meeting between Mr Whyte and Mr Grier, which show Duff and Phelps did know.Mr Whyte bought Rangers from Sir David Murray for £1 and paid an £18m debt to Lloyds Bank by selling three years of season tickets to finance firm Ticketus for £25m.As well as being involved in Mr Whyte's takeover, Duff and Phelps were appointed as Rangers' administrators after the club plunged into insolvency in February 2012.In May, a BBC Scotland investigation suggested that Mr Grier may have known that about the controversial Ticketus deal before the Whyte takeover was complete.Mr Grier, and Duff and Phelps, denied the claims and said he was unaware of this particular Ticketus deal until August 2011.Last week, in a BBC interview, Mr Whyte said that "everybody who was involved in the deal team at the time knew about" the Ticketus deal.He added: "They (Duff and Phelps) knew everything, they attended meetings, they were copied into all the emails, they were there on the day of completion. They knew from the start."That claim prompted Rangers' joint administrator Paul Clark, of Duff and Phelps, to respond: "The allegations against the administrators, who are officers of the court, are false, malicious and without foundation."In addition, as administrators, we instigated legal proceedings against Mr Whyte's solicitors (Collyer Bristow) in the High Court in London and those proceedings are centred round the very serious allegation that Mr Whyte was involved in a conspiracy which deprived Rangers of many millions of pounds."Our conduct of the Rangers administration has been the subject of intense public scrutiny and we are wholly satisfied it was carried out to the highest professional standards."BBC Scotland has now received a secret recording that Mr Whyte says he made at a meeting between him and Mr Grier in a private members' club in London on 31 May, after its investigation was broadcast.During the exchange, Mr Grier said: "I'll tell you what we're doing with that just so you…The recording, which is to be used in a forthcoming court case involving Duff and Phelps and Mr Whyte's former lawyers Collyer Bristow, has been obtained legitimately by BBC Scotland.Mr Whyte: "Yeah.Mr Grier: "We, we went to see counsel yesterday and had a full sort of debrief of all the email correspondence.Mr Whyte: "Yep.Mr Grier: "Now, the fact is that we probably did know what was going on with Ticketus. There's no email traffic whatsoever.Mr Whyte: "That says that you did?"Mr Grier: "That says that we did.Mr White: "But we all know that you did and f****** hell.Mr Grier: "Yeah, yeah. There's no…we were not involved in dealing with Ticketus directly.Mr Whyte: "Yeah. So you knew the structures of the deal. You were dealing with Lloyds.Mr Grier: "Absolutely.Mr Whyte: "And the Ticketus part was Saffreys.Mr Grier "Yeah. So we've maintained that line quite rigorously."BBC Scotland has been able to confirm with a voice recognition expert that the recording is of Mr Grier.Duff and Phelps have yet to respond to the publication of the 31 May conversation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Just watched it, Whyte seems to have recorded a coversation. Not sure what it means really. Hopefully someone on here will understand it better. Same mate unsure what it means, However makes you wonder how these people can avoid some jail time, Also IMO that SDM new exactly what he was dealing with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 All this just goes to confirm A) Whyte is a devious slippery wee cuntB) Rangers are the victims of criminality perpetuated by a variety of crooks, some of them in the legal profession Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Azure 1,414 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Seems like D&P knew all along about the Ticketus deal and from what I heard from Daly, they also strung out the time D&P kept us in administration to screw us out of more money. Jail time looming!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue68 2,497 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 All this just goes to confirmA) Whyte is a devious slippery wee cuntB) Rangers are the victims of criminality perpetuated by a variety of crooks, some of them in the legal professionThis, Well said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
covenanter 158 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I suspect BBC Scotland, an organisation groaning with integrity; has purchased a tape recording from Craig Whyte. Apparently, it has David Grier admitting Duff and Phelps knew of the Ticketus deal and expected to get away with denying this fact.Now,1. Did Grier know he was being recorded by Whyte over lunch?2. How much did BBC Scotland pay Craig Whyte for the recording?3. How did Mark Daly make it back from Barcelona so quickly to put that report together? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
better than all the rest 153 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 So whyte did a interview with the bbc last week, and in return for a favorable edit of the report he handed over theses recordings. Just a thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Apparently Craig Whyte recorded the conversation and has given them access to it, that is the claim at least.(Quoting because edit mode doesn't seem to be working for me)Correction: It just says they've "obtained" the recording. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Really? so why bring it up now. So they have had info but covered it up until now. They are a fucking joke The BBC Knew!They had to wait until the English torbet had died Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabWylie 3 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I can't help reading this without hearing that cunts poofy wee voice ringing in my ears.Always sound like his testicles are in his throat Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Save giving them the trafficBy Mark DalyBBC Scotland Investigations CorrespondentMr Grier has said he was only aware of the Ticketus deal in August 2011BBC Scotland has uncovered new evidence showing Rangers administrators Duff and Phelps knew Craig Whyte had sold season tickets to buy the club.It indicates they were intent on denying it because they thought they could get away with it.In May, the BBC suggested Duff and Phelps partner, David Grier, may have known about the £25m Ticketus deal last April, before Mr Whyte's takeover.Mr Grier denied any knowledge of the deal until August 2011.The BBC has obtained a recording of a meeting between Mr Whyte and Mr Grier, which show Duff and Phelps did know.Mr Whyte bought Rangers from Sir David Murray for £1 and paid an £18m debt to Lloyds Bank by selling three years of season tickets to finance firm Ticketus for £25m.As well as being involved in Mr Whyte's takeover, Duff and Phelps were appointed as Rangers' administrators after the club plunged into insolvency in February 2012.In May, a BBC Scotland investigation suggested that Mr Grier may have known that about the controversial Ticketus deal before the Whyte takeover was complete.Mr Grier, and Duff and Phelps, denied the claims and said he was unaware of this particular Ticketus deal until August 2011.Last week, in a BBC interview, Mr Whyte said that "everybody who was involved in the deal team at the time knew about" the Ticketus deal.He added: "They (Duff and Phelps) knew everything, they attended meetings, they were copied into all the emails, they were there on the day of completion. They knew from the start."That claim prompted Rangers' joint administrator Paul Clark, of Duff and Phelps, to respond: "The allegations against the administrators, who are officers of the court, are false, malicious and without foundation."In addition, as administrators, we instigated legal proceedings against Mr Whyte's solicitors (Collyer Bristow) in the High Court in London and those proceedings are centred round the very serious allegation that Mr Whyte was involved in a conspiracy which deprived Rangers of many millions of pounds."Our conduct of the Rangers administration has been the subject of intense public scrutiny and we are wholly satisfied it was carried out to the highest professional standards."BBC Scotland has now received a secret recording that Mr Whyte says he made at a meeting between him and Mr Grier in a private members' club in London on 31 May, after its investigation was broadcast.Craig Whyte met David Grier at a private members club in LondonThe recording, which is to be used in a forthcoming court case involving Duff and Phelps and Mr Whyte's former lawyers Collyer Bristow, has been obtained legitimately by BBC Scotland.During the exchange, Mr Grier said: "I'll tell you what we're doing with that just so you…Mr Whyte: "Yeah.Mr Grier: "We, we went to see counsel yesterday and had a full sort of debrief of all the email correspondence.Mr Whyte: "Yep.Mr Grier: "Now, the fact is that we probably did know what was going on with Ticketus. There's no email traffic whatsoever.Mr Whyte: "That says that you did?"Mr Grier: "That says that we did.Mr White: "But we all know that you did and f****** hell.Mr Grier: "Yeah, yeah. There's no…we were not involved in dealing with Ticketus directly.Mr Whyte: "Yeah. So you knew the structures of the deal. You were dealing with Lloyds.Mr Grier: "Absolutely.Mr Whyte: "And the Ticketus part was Saffreys.Mr Grier "Yeah. So we've maintained that line quite rigorously."BBC Scotland has been able to confirm with a voice recognition expert that the recording is of Mr Grier.Duff and Phelps have yet to respond to the publication of the 31 May conversation.BBC © 2012 Full of experts all these people at the BBC aren't they. Pity they never had any REAL experts to record jimmy fucking savile eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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