lutonblue 1,974 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Some of these clubs have completely different expectations from Rangers fans. Clubs like Livingston, Hamilton, Raith Rovers etc know when they are in the Premier League, they are there on borrowed time. Ross County and Inverness will go, and be gone for a long time. That wouldn't be a crisis for these clubs.you are right with them clubs , I'm on about the main clubs in spl Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 My sympathy is lacking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 its nice watching other clubs suffer after what they done to us. I make no apology for laughing like fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Sorry to piss on everyones campfire here but didn't Livingston survive similar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Sorry to piss on everyones campfire here but didn't Livingston survive similar?if they survive then fine.As long as the punishment is in equal measure to ours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinty 1,445 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Sink us and we`'ll sink you. Fuckers can't say they weren't warned. Fuck em all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 if they survive then fine.As long as the punishment is in equal measure to ours.They were demoted to the third division 3 days before the season started after breaching insolvency rules Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i wasnt commenting on any particular club, just at CGs comment in his statement re " any other club" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar2012 15 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The SFA and SPL Clubs made up rules as they went along with the sole purpose of killing Rangers.They failed.They have set a precedent.While CG may be talking sense on this issue I will never forget nor forgive what others made my club endure this year.The same rules apply to all.I will not change my opinion unless the SFA apologise for their ill considered actions and offer some kind of recompense for the damage done to Rangers. I want to see Rangers back in the top tier of Scottish football,and do not agree that they should move to England.If this happens I will not set foot in another away ground until the same period has elapsed that Rangers were out of the top tier in Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Pardon me if I'm wrong here, but didn't all those chairmen, fans and the SPL and SFA all say sporting integrity forced them to act, no matter how much they "regretted" it ?Those same rules still apply and must be followed to the letter regardless of consequences. If hapless clubs go out of business so be it. There are far too many clubs in scotland as it is.Hearts have already benefitted at least twice from lenient enforcement of the rules, despite the powers that be all saying they couldn't make exceptions.It seems they can only make exceptions when its an exceptional case not involving Rangers.Charlie's just making it more difficult for them to do it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Skies 31 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 ......Talking exclusively to the Gazette he said “I think that’d be a disaster. Rangers are huge and could weather that storm but I don’t know if there are any other clubs in Scotland who, if they were faced with the same challenge, could recover. It’d be very, very wrong and foolish to think they have to do the same to other clubs that they did to Rangers. - He's telling the SPL/SFA that although they tried to destroy Rangers, they failed because we are too strong for them. He is also reinforcing the fact that their actions were 'very, very wrong and foolish',“ I would definitely not want this to be a precedent for any other misdemeanours and of course there will be as there is no chance in the world we won’t see other Scottish clubs fall foul of the financial difficulties. - He is being clever here, it's a challenge to them as they will have to justify their decisions if they do not enforce the same sanctions on other clubs, and if they don't, they will basically have to admit what they did to us was wrong. By adopting a conciliatory approach, siding with the clubs who fall into financial difficulties he will gain their support and weaken the campaign against us. With league reconstruction the hot topic on the lips of Scottish football Green took the time to urge authorities to take their time when making any decisions.“Reconstruction is the real key now but for all of Scottish football and not just for Rangers . The powers that be must get it right this time and we can’t keep messing. Whatever we do has to be well thought out. I don’t think from my discussions that whether the configuration is 12-12-18 or 18-12-12 or even 14-14-14, I think there are pros and cons for all proposals.“However the concern for most people is that it isn’t rushed through and we don’t have a situation where we change in haste and then repent in leisure because there are lots of things that need to be done.“We need to get rules right, corporate structure and governance right. Who is going to administer this business, sponsors, broadcasters. There are lots of questions and not about who is in each division.“ I firmly believe that’s a secondary question as the primaryis all about structure and governance as that needs to be in a way where its transparent and all the fans and all the executives can understand what the body is and what format they are playing in.” - He is acting as the voice of reason here, if they pull back it solves the problem of Rangers being stuck in the bottom 18, if they push it through for next season and it's an epic fail he can say 'I told you so'. He looks good they look like the clowns they are, especially to the sponsors and broadcasters and don't be kidded, Sky will have a big say in what they want the leagues to look like.Yes, Mr Green is being very clever here, there's more than one way to skin a cat! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeonBlue 378 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Disagree with him, Im not interested about any other clubs period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Mr Green is being very astute here. Perhaps fishing out any splints that may appear as the dark reality sets on Scottish football. It really isn't awash with riches at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The rules are the rules and they made some up as they went along but these are now the rules. So, on the basis of equal treatment, if they break the rules as we were supposed to have broken the rules, then the same punishments should be given.There is a storm ahead for Scottish football and some will not survive it. Strangely some of the teams that may not have been that successful (Dundee) may do better as their fans accept the new situation but teams that see them selves as a big noise (Hearts); their fans may find this difficult and not attend.Rangers will be the club that will be the exception; demotion and the crowds go up, a very big noise and the fans accept the new reality. All the other clubs in Scotland would give their eye teeth for supporters like the Rangers support including Septic; if they went down I think they would not return for over a decade as their supporters would just not turn up and they are the second biggest club in Scotland. If our positions were reversed Ibrox would still have full crowds but what would Septic’s be. Lets hope this happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'o'rangerblue 89 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Couple of points. If they follow the same procedure, the SPL chairmen could vote the stricken club to be allowed to stay in the SPL despite the fact they voted us out. But, this may not be necessary as the club, say hertz for example, may just cease to exist, that would be tragic, wouldn't it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanFerguson2012 123 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I don't get it. The precedent is set so other teams who enter administration need to follow the same route OR the SFA & SPL need to reverse their previous disastrous decisions against Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRICKY1872 118 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think he's stirring. Of course they have to treat all clubs the same but watch this space when the time comes.I agree with this. Nothing Green or Rangers say will have any bearing on how other clubs in trouble are dealt with in the future. Green is being cute here by publicly saying we never wished that on anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 1,480 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 ......Talking exclusively to the Gazette he said “I think that’d be a disaster. Rangers are huge and could weather that storm but I don’t know if there are any other clubs in Scotland who, if they were faced with the same challenge, could recover. It’d be very, very wrong and foolish to think they have to do the same to other clubs that they did to Rangers. - He's telling the SPL/SFA that although they tried to destroy Rangers, they failed because we are too strong for them. He is also reinforcing the fact that their actions were 'very, very wrong and foolish',“ I would definitely not want this to be a precedent for any other misdemeanours and of course there will be as there is no chance in the world we won’t see other Scottish clubs fall foul of the financial difficulties. - He is being clever here, it's a challenge to them as they will have to justify their decisions if they do not enforce the same sanctions on other clubs, and if they don't, they will basically have to admit what they did to us was wrong. By adopting a conciliatory approach, siding with the clubs who fall into financial difficulties he will gain their support and weaken the campaign against us. With league reconstruction the hot topic on the lips of Scottish football Green took the time to urge authorities to take their time when making any decisions.“Reconstruction is the real key now but for all of Scottish football and not just for Rangers . The powers that be must get it right this time and we can’t keep messing. Whatever we do has to be well thought out. I don’t think from my discussions that whether the configuration is 12-12-18 or 18-12-12 or even 14-14-14, I think there are pros and cons for all proposals.“However the concern for most people is that it isn’t rushed through and we don’t have a situation where we change in haste and then repent in leisure because there are lots of things that need to be done.“We need to get rules right, corporate structure and governance right. Who is going to administer this business, sponsors, broadcasters. There are lots of questions and not about who is in each division.“ I firmly believe that’s a secondary question as the primaryis all about structure and governance as that needs to be in a way where its transparent and all the fans and all the executives can understand what the body is and what format they are playing in.” - He is acting as the voice of reason here, if they pull back it solves the problem of Rangers being stuck in the bottom 18, if they push it through for next season and it's an epic fail he can say 'I told you so'. He looks good they look like the clowns they are, especially to the sponsors and broadcasters and don't be kidded, Sky will have a big say in what they want the leagues to look like.Yes, Mr Green is being very clever here, there's more than one way to skin a cat!This is exactly how I see it. Like CG, I'm really only interested in what happens to Rangers. That said, should any other club find themselves in the predicament that befell us, I will watch with avid interest as to how they are treated and should there be even a hint that the "authorities" take a differing view to what they did with us, then I along with CG and the entire Rangers support will be asking why. As far as I'm concerned the precedent has already been set ~ and in the interests of "sporting integrity" I want to see it imposed on the rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubdeck 41 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Scottish football association & clubs decided what was fair & fitting sanctions when they handed them out to us' under the guise of sporting integrity . We thought they were harsh in the extreme, but other clubs still consider them just, well so be it I would expect that the punishment ( Legal & illegal) handed out to us is now set in stone for the rest. If they don't survive so be it , no one gave the thought that we may perish a second thought so as the saying goes "Whats good for the goose is good for the gander" lets just let these other clubs suck it up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khana Lagur 64 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Green is correct, the real issue is the reconstruction and future structure. THis is where we need to focus, we can have our retribution on the parkGreat post & completely agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,895 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Bitter loyal.If those punishments were good enough for us then it should be the same for the rest, why should we take it on the chin while others get off light.It's been happening for fucking years, enough is enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo 588 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Not interested in the other clubs but the same rules have to be followed for everyone so any more new companies should be placed in third division Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker69 60 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I would be happy with this as long as we received some sort of apology for the gross injustices set upon us.That will never happen so its only fair they are dealt with in the same manner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow argyle 1,093 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I want the same punishment across the board i strongly disagree with Green here.i agree wholeheartedly with you on this.the first time i have disagreed with Mr. Green, albeit he may be playing a "Kissenger" role here i suspect? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I disagree with Green on this.A precedent was made with us and in my opinion it is fitting that we all have the same punishments,isnt that integrity? Why should there be one punishment specially reserved for Rangers but another club doing the same should have a lesser punishment.No way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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