Thermopylae 15,287 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, bluedart1952 said: Going by the spfl's judgement on this, its a wonder there isn't an addon to it, that Rangers are to be fined because their fans goaded the motherwell fans to come onto the pitch in the first place. Scottish football is dying because it is run by a shower of corrupt incompetent Bastards!! Don't even joke about that it will give them ideas lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 To consider it another way, the reason behind the decision. There was a pitch invasion. That's bad. The SFA/SPFL want to mitigate the chance that it will happen again. They could fine the club - or close the ground for a match - but long term what does that accomplish? The club pays the fine and everyone moves on and pretends like it never happened. Nothing has happened to stop it happening again, other than the club being a little irked that they had to write a cheque. If Motherwell instead spend that money training staff, improving procedures, and banning those responsible, then this is significantly less likely to be allowed to happen again. If they can satisfy that this has been done and successfully implemented over the course of next season, then they won't face any sanctions. Governing bodies need to focus more of preventing incidents from happening again, rather than just blindly punishing those that are guilty without a thought for cause or likelihood of it happening again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedart1952 1,352 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Creampuff said: it was to give Motherwell time to deal with the problems themselves; train the staff, catch and ban the culprits, The board at motherwell have already had six months to catch the culprits and have done hee haw, so I don't think there will be much getting done, another good old sweep sweep job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 4 hours ago, cushynumber said: fuck me. The first 2 points in the statement make it our fault Just read the statement back and it's complete and utter bollocks .Anyone that was lucky enough to get a ticket for this game will know how vigilant the security was that day .4 or 5 waves of security muppets were there gistapoesque making it impossible for breaches within our support .Lying scumbags are almost making it sound like it was our responsibility .This has to be challenged surely by Rangers .It won't as it would probably come back to haunt us . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 16 minutes ago, Creampuff said: To consider it another way, the reason behind the decision. There was a pitch invasion. That's bad. The SFA/SPFL want to mitigate the chance that it will happen again. They could fine the club - or close the ground for a match - but long term what does that accomplish? The club pays the fine and everyone moves on and pretends like it never happened. Nothing has happened to stop it happening again, other than the club being a little irked that they had to write a cheque. If Motherwell instead spend that money training staff, improving procedures, and banning those responsible, then this is significantly less likely to be allowed to happen again. If they can satisfy that this has been done and successfully implemented over the course of next season, then they won't face any sanctions. Governing bodies need to focus more of preventing incidents from happening again, rather than just blindly punishing those that are guilty without a thought for cause or likelihood of it happening again. So what do we have to do then occupy the pitch at Ibrox for 5 minutes as a protest before the next home game? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: So what do we have to do then occupy the pitch at Ibrox for 5 minutes as a protest before the next home game? We could decide that this has nothing to do with us, and get on with our lives? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Have to say, I'm not a fan of punishing clubs for the actions of the retards that follow them - with the proviso here that Motherwell actually make an effort to deal with the ones responsible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, Creampuff said: We could decide that this has nothing to do with us, and get on with our lives? It has nothing to do with us right up until the next time we get hammered for doing much less Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,271 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Will it be time to go apeshit when the ahem authorities deduct the 3 point's we won against h.i.v.s. for singing a big bad song.?? 18 months to do what exactly. ?? Absolute joke. Corrupt..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Lady 2,380 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 At this stage the very least Motherwell could do is apologise to the Rangers Fans whose safety they compromised. They might also like to acknowledge the impeccable behaviour of a visiting support who were goaded and spat at yet chose not to react. A no brainer here to anyone who sustained an injury or suffered PTSD to sue Motherwell FC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe 52 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Ryju84 said: Again, similar to my first comment on here, this one can go unpunished due to lack of any "official" witnesses, i.e. stewards. I don't see any in that pic! Everyone in that photie looks like fuckin inbreds, all too close relatives for normal folk, including the stewards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 if it was at ibrox,it would be all over the front pages, and would want us to play behind closed doors, its just a joke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don81 2,842 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Pitch invasion won't lead to a punishment , hopefully win the title at Easter road and test the theory ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Enclosure Row N 2,824 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Creampuff said: I actually don't mind the 18-month delay. It's a little longer than it has to be, but if anyone actually bothered to read why it was delayed, it was to give Motherwell time to deal with the problems themselves; train the staff, catch and ban the culprits, They have had six months - caught and banned nobody. Do you HONESTLY believe that will change in the next year and a fucking half ?????? For fuck sake man. How's life on the planet moondwiesel??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, East Enclosure Row N said: They have had six months - caught and banned nobody. Do you HONESTLY believe that will change in the next year and a fucking half ?????? For fuck sake man. How's life on the planet moondwiesel??? Whether I think they will change things is irrelevant. I believe they should be given the chance to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebestest 2,145 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 We get a player banned for celebrating a goal. Motherwell get no punishment for invading the pitch and threatening women and children. Welcome to Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Bogtrotters said: SPFL statement doesn't state there are no sanctions It will decide in 18 months Meantime, if we are due to play Motherwell before the 18 months us fans need to demand another venue Based on the report, it is quite obvious neither the SPFL nor Motherwell can guarantee the safety of our players and our fans within the 18 months. They made the rod, so let's beat them with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears 794 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Creampuff said: To consider it another way, the reason behind the decision. There was a pitch invasion. That's bad. The SFA/SPFL want to mitigate the chance that it will happen again. They could fine the club - or close the ground for a match - but long term what does that accomplish? The club pays the fine and everyone moves on and pretends like it never happened. Nothing has happened to stop it happening again, other than the club being a little irked that they had to write a cheque. If Motherwell instead spend that money training staff, improving procedures, and banning those responsible, then this is significantly less likely to be allowed to happen again. If they can satisfy that this has been done and successfully implemented over the course of next season, then they won't face any sanctions. Governing bodies need to focus more of preventing incidents from happening again, rather than just blindly punishing those that are guilty without a thought for cause or likelihood of it happening again. I agree. Great idea. Looking at solutions to problems and finding new ways to show the authorities can use common sense. Just as great an idea as rescinding the second yellow card for the fistpump. Level playing field needed first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, Bears said: I agree. Great idea. Looking at solutions to problems and finding new ways to show the authorities can use common sense. Just as great an idea as rescinding the second yellow card for the fistpump. Level playing field needed first. You can't use one bad decision as a counter argument against a good one. It doesn't make sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears 794 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Consistency makes sense 1 hour ago, Creampuff said: You can't use one bad decision as a counter argument against a good one. It doesn't make sense. Consistency makes sense. This is not consistent. And there might be previous regarding Rangers having decisions against us. Do you think Motherwell fans acting like this against in a match against Aberdeen, or dare I say it, celtc, would be given perceivably a free pass for their actions? I say a free pass as I cannot recall any report stating that Motherwell have identified any of the culprits so far. As I said, good idea, if there was a level playing field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanFerguson2013 397 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I do think the idea of invading the pitch at Easter Road following a title win would be a really good test of double standards so anyone lucky enough to be there get out your seat and give it a go. My last pitch invasion was in Barcelona in '72. I was chased out the stadium by the Spanish polis and got whacked twice on the way out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranter 136 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 The judgment states that it was customary for Motherwell fans to invade the pitch after the last home game of the season. Since they've got 18 months to sort out the issues, does that mean they can do it again this season and next? If so then surely it's ok for us to do the same when we win promotion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin9091 1,388 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Jesus fuck, so they have been found guilty of not doing enough, been rapped on the knuckles for lack of training (flare disposal), been shown to have not done enough to identify the culprits since the event occurred, been given 18 months to improve but not been punished. Does sporting integrity remain in the SFA dictionary or did they have that removed three years ago? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Rumour mill has been in overdrive today that they are facing administration this week. Personally I couldn't give two fucks about them or any subsequent points deduction, but not at the expense of Dundee Hivs staying up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: Rumour mill has been in overdrive today that they are facing administration this week. Personally I couldn't give two fucks about them or any subsequent points deduction, but not at the expense of Dundee Hivs staying up. There looks to be about three folk on twitter posting about this claimed admin. All citing one of the same fuckwits who claim we're going into admin every other week as the source. I think i'll file this one as pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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