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7 hours ago, Sweetheart said:

I see your point.

A poster on FF posted that celtic had paid some of the victims hush money. I think this could be true as there are allegedly 14 names on the paedo list.  Could a reason for Kelly siphoning the money from his club through the trophy centre be that he wanted to silence people to keep his clubs name from being tarnished? If not then where did the money come from to keep this secret silent?

You could never rule out anything that these people might have done S. 

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Article published 2nd August 2019 on Australia's truecrimenewsweekly.com.
The author Gary Johnston grew up a Celtc fan but he doesn't miss the scum with this one. 

CHILD SEX ABUSE COVER-UP ROCKS ‘CULT’ OF SCOTTISH FOOTBALL! Fans harass families of abuse victims in extension of never-ending Old Firm derby between celtic & Rangers

SCOTLAND: As Scotland’s political elite struggle to contain the details behind what is believed to be a decades-long institutional cover-up, the families of child sexual abuse victims say their efforts in calling for the truth to be heard have been hampered by one-eyed football fans who see their plight as just yet another extension of the never-ending Old Firm derby between celtic FC and their bitter rivals, Glasgow Rangers. Gary Johnston reports.
They say that football, and by that I mean the round ball, so-called ‘world game’ is a religion in my home country of Scotland.

But they’re wrong. If recent events are anything to go by, it’s not a religion.

It’s a cult.

To recap: in January this year, True Crime News Weekly published an article about the arrests and subsequent convictions of a number of coaches from the celtic Boy’s Club, an offshoot of the Scottish football champions celtic FC, on sex abuse crimes.

Amongst others, the article focused on two men – James Torbett and Frank Cairney.

Long time officials of the Boy’s Club, both have been been recently found guilty by Scottish courts of the historical, sustained and depraved sexual degradation of young boys, some as young as five years old, dating back over three decades.

Given that we are an Australia based news outlet, we felt that, as horrific and dissolute as the matter undoubtedly was, local interest would probably be confined to the fact that celtic, a highly successful football team with a massive support world-wide, are currently fielding two prominent Socceroos, Tom Rogic and Daniel Arzani.

However, it seems we were mistaken, as the story has had an international impact attracting views and comments from overseas, and in particular Scotland itself. In addition, we have been contacted by relatives of Torbett and Cairney’s victims whose lives have been blighted by their appalling experiences with at least one, tragically, being no longer alive.

Inexplicably, the overwhelming thrust of the numerous comments on our original story and on our Twitter feed are not, as you’d expect, sympathy for the victims and unqualified support for the comprehensive enquiry into the matter that the victims and their families are calling for, Instead, we’ve received a barrage of divisive comments from celtic ‘fans’ seeking to protect the ‘integrity’ of the club, whilst at the same time blaming the promotion of the issue on supporters of their bitter rivals, Rangers FC.

It takes a profoundly callous mindset to castigate abused victims and their families for being “infected by Rangers fans’ vendetta against celtic” but sadly, this appears to be the level of vindictive verbiage purported by at least one popular fan’s forum brought to our attention. [EDITOR’S NOTE: Normally, we would include a link to the site in question but we have deliberately chosen not to do so in this case as, not only do we not want to give the writer of the squalid piece the oxygen of publicity, we are not at all sure we’d be prepared to grant him the oxygen of oxygen]

Andrew Gray, one of the victims of Torbett’s abuse, died in 2107 in Australia. But mercifully, his evidence was able to be delivered in absentia at the subsequent trial, a source of some solace to his grieving mother Helene and sister Michelle, after the guilty verdict was summarily handed down.

Having spoken to the courageous Michelle Gray, I can vouch for the continuing anguish suffered by the family, who, despite ongoing, prolonged intimidation including, inexplicably by any standards of moral behaviour, death threats, refuse to be cowed in their unremitting quest for answers and a wholesale enquiry.

“celtic claim to have launched an internal enquiry into the abuse more than two years ago,” Michelle told me, “but we’re in almost daily contact with most of the boys – now men – who were victims, and none of them has heard a thing.

So far, celtic FC, aided and abetted by some sections of the Scottish media and, it would seem, the judiciary, have resisted any calls to release details of their apparent enquiry.

In fact, the club have gone so far as recently engaging the services of a Hollicom, a shady public relations company, in a blatant and stomach-churning attempt to spin good news stories about the club, past and present.

Bizarrely, for an organisation who describe themselves as ‘a strategic communication agency’, the Twitter feed for Hollicom will only accept followers after a period of review. And any subsequent attempt to ask them to comment on the abuse issue will result in the follower being blocked, a ‘privilege’ which has been extended to many people, including the Gray family and indeed, this writer.

Communication for Hollicom, it would seem, only operates in one direction.

All this, the blinkered, unilateral support from some fans, the secretive nature of the club’s spokespeople and the persistent silence emanating from celtic HQ on the abuse issue, begs the question: what do they have to hide?

For some years, a strong suspicion has emerged regarding the nature and scope of the level of sexual abuse prevalent from the 1960’s and beyond. In particular, there now appears to be some evidence that abusers were not simply confined to coaches at celtic Boy’s Club but included other influential and powerful members of Scottish society, including, it is alleged, some from the political sphere and even the legal fraternity itself.

At the very least, it now seems manifest that the assertions must at all costs be thoroughly investigated, since stories such as these, in addition to being highly troubling, surely hinder the open and democratic processes in a country which, in the light of Brexit and continued calls for an second independence referendum, is leaking public credibility on a daily basis.

In the interests of balance, it must be said that not all celtic supporters have circled the wagons, shooting their arrows of hate indiscriminately at anyone daring to criticise or even question club’s role in the abuses.

For the record, I’m a celtic fan myself, albeit these days from a distance, but nevertheless there is a significant core of hardline acolytes who would seemingly seek to continue their age-old rivalry with the blue half of the Old Firm – Rangers FC – without regard for the distress and heartache of victims and their advocates, innocent sufferers who merely seek answers.

How to describe those who continue to pour invective on the call for a public enquiry – staunch, faithful supporters or disciples of a small-minded, self deluded and intractable cult?

This isn’t about football. This is a serious matter of alleged crime – a crime which has destroyed lives and one in which there may well be perpetrators at large who are yet to face the consequences of their heinous actions.

Many men, now in their middle years continue to be traumatised by the years of sexual abuse they endured and surely they, as well as the loving family of the sadly deceased Andrew Gray, deserve at the very least to be accorded some measure of understanding and potential closure.

If celtic FC and the Scottish establishment truly want to play ball, the institution of and co-operation with a comprehensive and wide-reaching public enquiry is surely is the correct and proper way to kick it off.

With determined people like the Grays involved, it can only be hoped that justice in its purest form – fair, impartial decency and probity – will eventually prevail.

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36 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

This has been copied and pasted into the thread on ff - I really thought it needed shared.

 

Article published 2nd August 2019 on Australia's truecrimenewsweekly.com.
The author Gary Johnston grew up a Celtc fan but he doesn't miss the scum with this one. 

CHILD SEX ABUSE COVER-UP ROCKS ‘CULT’ OF SCOTTISH FOOTBALL! Fans harass families of abuse victims in extension of never-ending Old Firm derby between celtic & Rangers

SCOTLAND: As Scotland’s political elite struggle to contain the details behind what is believed to be a decades-long institutional cover-up, the families of child sexual abuse victims say their efforts in calling for the truth to be heard have been hampered by one-eyed football fans who see their plight as just yet another extension of the never-ending Old Firm derby between celtic FC and their bitter rivals, Glasgow Rangers. Gary Johnston reports.
They say that football, and by that I mean the round ball, so-called ‘world game’ is a religion in my home country of Scotland.

But they’re wrong. If recent events are anything to go by, it’s not a religion.

It’s a cult.

To recap: in January this year, True Crime News Weekly published an article about the arrests and subsequent convictions of a number of coaches from the celtic Boy’s Club, an offshoot of the Scottish football champions celtic FC, on sex abuse crimes.

Amongst others, the article focused on two men – James Torbett and Frank Cairney.

Long time officials of the Boy’s Club, both have been been recently found guilty by Scottish courts of the historical, sustained and depraved sexual degradation of young boys, some as young as five years old, dating back over three decades.

Given that we are an Australia based news outlet, we felt that, as horrific and dissolute as the matter undoubtedly was, local interest would probably be confined to the fact that celtic, a highly successful football team with a massive support world-wide, are currently fielding two prominent Socceroos, Tom Rogic and Daniel Arzani.

However, it seems we were mistaken, as the story has had an international impact attracting views and comments from overseas, and in particular Scotland itself. In addition, we have been contacted by relatives of Torbett and Cairney’s victims whose lives have been blighted by their appalling experiences with at least one, tragically, being no longer alive.

Inexplicably, the overwhelming thrust of the numerous comments on our original story and on our Twitter feed are not, as you’d expect, sympathy for the victims and unqualified support for the comprehensive enquiry into the matter that the victims and their families are calling for, Instead, we’ve received a barrage of divisive comments from celtic ‘fans’ seeking to protect the ‘integrity’ of the club, whilst at the same time blaming the promotion of the issue on supporters of their bitter rivals, Rangers FC.

It takes a profoundly callous mindset to castigate abused victims and their families for being “infected by Rangers fans’ vendetta against celtic” but sadly, this appears to be the level of vindictive verbiage purported by at least one popular fan’s forum brought to our attention. [EDITOR’S NOTE: Normally, we would include a link to the site in question but we have deliberately chosen not to do so in this case as, not only do we not want to give the writer of the squalid piece the oxygen of publicity, we are not at all sure we’d be prepared to grant him the oxygen of oxygen]

Andrew Gray, one of the victims of Torbett’s abuse, died in 2107 in Australia. But mercifully, his evidence was able to be delivered in absentia at the subsequent trial, a source of some solace to his grieving mother Helene and sister Michelle, after the guilty verdict was summarily handed down.

Having spoken to the courageous Michelle Gray, I can vouch for the continuing anguish suffered by the family, who, despite ongoing, prolonged intimidation including, inexplicably by any standards of moral behaviour, death threats, refuse to be cowed in their unremitting quest for answers and a wholesale enquiry.

“celtic claim to have launched an internal enquiry into the abuse more than two years ago,” Michelle told me, “but we’re in almost daily contact with most of the boys – now men – who were victims, and none of them has heard a thing.

So far, celtic FC, aided and abetted by some sections of the Scottish media and, it would seem, the judiciary, have resisted any calls to release details of their apparent enquiry.

In fact, the club have gone so far as recently engaging the services of a Hollicom, a shady public relations company, in a blatant and stomach-churning attempt to spin good news stories about the club, past and present.

Bizarrely, for an organisation who describe themselves as ‘a strategic communication agency’, the Twitter feed for Hollicom will only accept followers after a period of review. And any subsequent attempt to ask them to comment on the abuse issue will result in the follower being blocked, a ‘privilege’ which has been extended to many people, including the Gray family and indeed, this writer.

Communication for Hollicom, it would seem, only operates in one direction.

All this, the blinkered, unilateral support from some fans, the secretive nature of the club’s spokespeople and the persistent silence emanating from celtic HQ on the abuse issue, begs the question: what do they have to hide?

For some years, a strong suspicion has emerged regarding the nature and scope of the level of sexual abuse prevalent from the 1960’s and beyond. In particular, there now appears to be some evidence that abusers were not simply confined to coaches at celtic Boy’s Club but included other influential and powerful members of Scottish society, including, it is alleged, some from the political sphere and even the legal fraternity itself.

At the very least, it now seems manifest that the assertions must at all costs be thoroughly investigated, since stories such as these, in addition to being highly troubling, surely hinder the open and democratic processes in a country which, in the light of Brexit and continued calls for an second independence referendum, is leaking public credibility on a daily basis.

In the interests of balance, it must be said that not all celtic supporters have circled the wagons, shooting their arrows of hate indiscriminately at anyone daring to criticise or even question club’s role in the abuses.

For the record, I’m a celtic fan myself, albeit these days from a distance, but nevertheless there is a significant core of hardline acolytes who would seemingly seek to continue their age-old rivalry with the blue half of the Old Firm – Rangers FC – without regard for the distress and heartache of victims and their advocates, innocent sufferers who merely seek answers.

How to describe those who continue to pour invective on the call for a public enquiry – staunch, faithful supporters or disciples of a small-minded, self deluded and intractable cult?

This isn’t about football. This is a serious matter of alleged crime – a crime which has destroyed lives and one in which there may well be perpetrators at large who are yet to face the consequences of their heinous actions.

Many men, now in their middle years continue to be traumatised by the years of sexual abuse they endured and surely they, as well as the loving family of the sadly deceased Andrew Gray, deserve at the very least to be accorded some measure of understanding and potential closure.

If celtic FC and the Scottish establishment truly want to play ball, the institution of and co-operation with a comprehensive and wide-reaching public enquiry is surely is the correct and proper way to kick it off.

With determined people like the Grays involved, it can only be hoped that justice in its purest form – fair, impartial decency and probity – will eventually prevail.

Wow, goes to show what a cesspit we live in and the outside world is becoming aware. 

I was once proud of my country. Not anymore. 

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39 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

This has been copied and pasted into the thread on ff - I really thought it needed shared.

 

Article published 2nd August 2019 on Australia's truecrimenewsweekly.com.
The author Gary Johnston grew up a Celtc fan but he doesn't miss the scum with this one. 

CHILD SEX ABUSE COVER-UP ROCKS ‘CULT’ OF SCOTTISH FOOTBALL! Fans harass families of abuse victims in extension of never-ending Old Firm derby between celtic & Rangers

SCOTLAND: As Scotland’s political elite struggle to contain the details behind what is believed to be a decades-long institutional cover-up, the families of child sexual abuse victims say their efforts in calling for the truth to be heard have been hampered by one-eyed football fans who see their plight as just yet another extension of the never-ending Old Firm derby between celtic FC and their bitter rivals, Glasgow Rangers. Gary Johnston reports.
They say that football, and by that I mean the round ball, so-called ‘world game’ is a religion in my home country of Scotland.

But they’re wrong. If recent events are anything to go by, it’s not a religion.

It’s a cult.

To recap: in January this year, True Crime News Weekly published an article about the arrests and subsequent convictions of a number of coaches from the celtic Boy’s Club, an offshoot of the Scottish football champions celtic FC, on sex abuse crimes.

Amongst others, the article focused on two men – James Torbett and Frank Cairney.

Long time officials of the Boy’s Club, both have been been recently found guilty by Scottish courts of the historical, sustained and depraved sexual degradation of young boys, some as young as five years old, dating back over three decades.

Given that we are an Australia based news outlet, we felt that, as horrific and dissolute as the matter undoubtedly was, local interest would probably be confined to the fact that celtic, a highly successful football team with a massive support world-wide, are currently fielding two prominent Socceroos, Tom Rogic and Daniel Arzani.

However, it seems we were mistaken, as the story has had an international impact attracting views and comments from overseas, and in particular Scotland itself. In addition, we have been contacted by relatives of Torbett and Cairney’s victims whose lives have been blighted by their appalling experiences with at least one, tragically, being no longer alive.

Inexplicably, the overwhelming thrust of the numerous comments on our original story and on our Twitter feed are not, as you’d expect, sympathy for the victims and unqualified support for the comprehensive enquiry into the matter that the victims and their families are calling for, Instead, we’ve received a barrage of divisive comments from celtic ‘fans’ seeking to protect the ‘integrity’ of the club, whilst at the same time blaming the promotion of the issue on supporters of their bitter rivals, Rangers FC.

It takes a profoundly callous mindset to castigate abused victims and their families for being “infected by Rangers fans’ vendetta against celtic” but sadly, this appears to be the level of vindictive verbiage purported by at least one popular fan’s forum brought to our attention. [EDITOR’S NOTE: Normally, we would include a link to the site in question but we have deliberately chosen not to do so in this case as, not only do we not want to give the writer of the squalid piece the oxygen of publicity, we are not at all sure we’d be prepared to grant him the oxygen of oxygen]

Andrew Gray, one of the victims of Torbett’s abuse, died in 2107 in Australia. But mercifully, his evidence was able to be delivered in absentia at the subsequent trial, a source of some solace to his grieving mother Helene and sister Michelle, after the guilty verdict was summarily handed down.

Having spoken to the courageous Michelle Gray, I can vouch for the continuing anguish suffered by the family, who, despite ongoing, prolonged intimidation including, inexplicably by any standards of moral behaviour, death threats, refuse to be cowed in their unremitting quest for answers and a wholesale enquiry.

“celtic claim to have launched an internal enquiry into the abuse more than two years ago,” Michelle told me, “but we’re in almost daily contact with most of the boys – now men – who were victims, and none of them has heard a thing.

So far, celtic FC, aided and abetted by some sections of the Scottish media and, it would seem, the judiciary, have resisted any calls to release details of their apparent enquiry.

In fact, the club have gone so far as recently engaging the services of a Hollicom, a shady public relations company, in a blatant and stomach-churning attempt to spin good news stories about the club, past and present.

Bizarrely, for an organisation who describe themselves as ‘a strategic communication agency’, the Twitter feed for Hollicom will only accept followers after a period of review. And any subsequent attempt to ask them to comment on the abuse issue will result in the follower being blocked, a ‘privilege’ which has been extended to many people, including the Gray family and indeed, this writer.

Communication for Hollicom, it would seem, only operates in one direction.

All this, the blinkered, unilateral support from some fans, the secretive nature of the club’s spokespeople and the persistent silence emanating from celtic HQ on the abuse issue, begs the question: what do they have to hide?

For some years, a strong suspicion has emerged regarding the nature and scope of the level of sexual abuse prevalent from the 1960’s and beyond. In particular, there now appears to be some evidence that abusers were not simply confined to coaches at celtic Boy’s Club but included other influential and powerful members of Scottish society, including, it is alleged, some from the political sphere and even the legal fraternity itself.

At the very least, it now seems manifest that the assertions must at all costs be thoroughly investigated, since stories such as these, in addition to being highly troubling, surely hinder the open and democratic processes in a country which, in the light of Brexit and continued calls for an second independence referendum, is leaking public credibility on a daily basis.

In the interests of balance, it must be said that not all celtic supporters have circled the wagons, shooting their arrows of hate indiscriminately at anyone daring to criticise or even question club’s role in the abuses.

For the record, I’m a celtic fan myself, albeit these days from a distance, but nevertheless there is a significant core of hardline acolytes who would seemingly seek to continue their age-old rivalry with the blue half of the Old Firm – Rangers FC – without regard for the distress and heartache of victims and their advocates, innocent sufferers who merely seek answers.

How to describe those who continue to pour invective on the call for a public enquiry – staunch, faithful supporters or disciples of a small-minded, self deluded and intractable cult?

This isn’t about football. This is a serious matter of alleged crime – a crime which has destroyed lives and one in which there may well be perpetrators at large who are yet to face the consequences of their heinous actions.

Many men, now in their middle years continue to be traumatised by the years of sexual abuse they endured and surely they, as well as the loving family of the sadly deceased Andrew Gray, deserve at the very least to be accorded some measure of understanding and potential closure.

If celtic FC and the Scottish establishment truly want to play ball, the institution of and co-operation with a comprehensive and wide-reaching public enquiry is surely is the correct and proper way to kick it off.

With determined people like the Grays involved, it can only be hoped that justice in its purest form – fair, impartial decency and probity – will eventually prevail.

If only we had the integrity and reason in this country of the above author/ journalist, who as you state ‘does not miss’ in his condemnation and honesty for this scandal without any twisted vested interest.

It’s actually refreshing to see that there’s not the confirmation blindness of the facts as they stand to anyone not accused of ‘point scoring’ and him as a confessed celtic fan can calling this out is a credit to him...

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13 minutes ago, Robmc1 said:

If only we had the integrity and reason in this country of the above author/ journalist, who as you state ‘does not miss’ in his condemnation and honesty for this scandal without any twisted vested interest.

It’s actually refreshing to see that there’s not the confirmation blindness of the facts as they stand to anyone not accused of ‘point scoring’ and him as a confessed celtic fan can calling this out is a credit to him...

He quite rightly calls it a cult. 

An offshoot of the biggest cult on the planet. The RC Church. 

How often have you heard anything said against this club as being anti Catholic. When it's quite clear there is nothing anti Catholic has been said. 

Its the go to phrase to defend themselves against anything. 

I mean who in their right mind puts their love of a football club infront of such a disgusting crime as peadophilia. Only a manipulated mind would do such a thing. And it's not just a few there's thousands of them out their defending the vile actions and doing their best to Bury and deflect. 

 

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8 hours ago, magic8ball said:

An offshoot of the biggest cult on the planet. The RC Church. 

This whole thing mirrors the ‘go to’ stance taken by their church re abuse, cult is no exaggeration for a section of the community who think they can be absolved of all sin through their confession (only created to basically keep tabs on the  ‘flock’ by their church).

Then of course there is their plastic fans who just despise all things Rangers/ British, inbred (dragged up children) hatred who see the abuse of Lee Rigby and any other harm inflicted of a member of the armed forces as acceptable if not justified. The SNP govt has allowed this culture to flourish as it suits their agenda and indeed many of their supporters, members and elected members take this stance themselves. This state of affairs genuinely saddens me...

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15 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

Many thanks @Sparklefor posting that piece it is incredible coming from the other side of the world.

Did you notice if anyone on ff said it they had put it on Twitter? It needs as much publicity as possible. 👍 

No I don’t think so Bears, just on that huge thread they have ongoing.  

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2 hours ago, Bears r us said:

Thanks S, I will see if I can get on their website (the Aussys) later and try and see if I can get the link up. 👍 

Would be truecrimenewsweekly.com wouldn't it, just ref the author, date and title Sorry can't help with twitter as I hate the fucking think with a passion but give a poke to Humza as well.

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27 minutes ago, Malvern said:

Would be truecrimenewsweekly.com wouldn't it, just ref the author, date and title Sorry can't help with twitter as I hate the fucking think with a passion but give a poke to Humza as well.

Don't do Twitter either but I assume giving Humza a poke is not what I used to call a poke. 😁

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2 hours ago, Malvern said:

Would be truecrimenewsweekly.com wouldn't it, just ref the author, date and title Sorry can't help with twitter as I hate the fucking think with a passion but give a poke to Humza as well.

Just put it up on twitter M, the other lad who said above it was up has not get back so went for it.  :thumbup: 

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There is no indication(yet)  other than an affiliation that the RC Church is involved in this sordid episode and remember the victims and their families may be RCs too. 

Think of the families  ffs this is about justice not throwing more muck at Rome 

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See the thing is we all know they are dirty wean shagging bastards. However the normal people in the street will see ‘Rangers owing Sports Direct millions’, ‘Rangers fans sectarian singing at Rally Round the Rangers show’, ‘Morelos cheating on his wife’ and then ‘good old celtic a club for everyone’. This is Hollicom and they are winning the PR battle big time.

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The article from Australia calls it as it is , A Cult foisted on humanity for far too long , the mumbo jumbo, hocus pocus and the use of Latin which bamboozled the human race for centuries no longer works.

They have evolved into the most sinister organisation on the planet , their bastardised version of Christianity has subjugated  millions , brainwashed and abused from the cradle to the grave.

No wonder their victims find it so hard to gain any justice or solace when their families,friends give them no support to challenge the evil that has been visited upon them.

Parents who can't bring themselves to face up to the fact that the good old Priests have been abusing children for centuries , give me a child for 7 years and I'll show you the man, the Jesuit mantra that still holds to this day.

The self same scenario is being played out in front of us by Glasgow celtic and it's supporters,denial,deflection, it wasn't just us.

They don't or won't accept that they  are the major players in this sordid affair,yes the perpetrators can wheedle their way into any organisation,knowingly allowing them back in to commit more crimes is their downfall.

The founder of cbc we are told was kicked out only to be replaced by another pederast,not once but several times over and the very fact that at some stage they were all there at the same time constitutes that it was an active ring allowed to flourish and operate under the umbrella of celtic Football club.

Justice must prevail or we are as well jacking it in , that is what they would like to happen but we should stand firm and ensure that their victims get the justice they deserve.

The facilitators, enablers ,silencers will need to be forced into accepting their part in the ruination of countless children's lives all for the sake of the good name of a football club.

The only punishment that will suffice and fit the crime.

Kick them Out.

 

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