billythebear1986 303 Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Your/You're topics? Aren't you a ticket billythebear. Yes I am. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, billythebear1986 said: I dont give a fuck dont post on my topics then if they are so beneath you. I could type proper if i wanted but its a football forum, not an English essay. You do give a fuck or you would have just ignored the post you replied too Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythebear1986 303 Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, piperpete said: You do give a fuck or you would have just ignored the post you replied too Too true I need to learn to ignore the trolls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, billythebear1986 said: Heard hes only on £1500 a week? contract offer is £2500? scandelous if true. Ian black was on 8 fucking grand. give the boy a decent contract! Are you his agent ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,643 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 How will he survive food bank loyal I think not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, billythebear1986 said: Yes I am. Billythebear. I think your mistaken about me. I just like the Queen's English to be used appropriately. Surely your in agreement with that. I may be a prick. But I'm the RM prick. So I'm you're prick too. We got off on the wrong footing. Can we go back and start again. I'm willing if your too..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, plumbGER said: People keep saying that, but it's not as bad as made out, infact it's not even bad at all. He got a pre pre assist for Cummings third against Falkirk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Siwel said: He got a pre pre assist for Cummings third against Falkirk ?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Not sure if this still applies but Rangers made a big mistake with John Fleck and I remember reading (many years ago now) that the club didn't want to make that same mistake moving forward. Fleck had a big reputation and started breaking in to the first-team so the club offered him a new contract, which he initially rejected, and improved terms were offered. Fleck never lived up to the initial hype and it was hard to justify the wages he was on during the years that followed. The club didn't want to offer first-team wages to youth prospects again. Bates has shown early promise and the club have responded by offering him improved terms that seems reasonable enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 12,921 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, pcbear said: He is out shining much more seasoned pros and doing a grand job as a steady Eddie rock solid defender who is going to get better, he is worth a decent wage. Hes an old school no nonsense stopper, the modern game needs a bit more than that and hes still some development to go. hes a raw player who's just broke into the side, rather than throw a big contract at him and risk billy big baws syndrome setting in lets do it the Protestant way where reward is given through hard work and improvement Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: ?????? You think I’m joking? Watch it back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Siwel said: You think I’m joking? Watch it back I'll need to re re rewind the footage ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 £2500 p/w seems like a perfectly reasonable offer. Assuming it settles out at say £3k a week (over £150k a year) that's a great wage for a 21 year old who has only played a handful of games for us (and not that many more for lower league teams prior to signing for us). Can't compare him to the likes of Alves who has 90 odd caps for Portugal and who should be our absolute best CB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,420 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 26 minutes ago, piperpete said: Delivering for Yodel mate Makes sense as they always seem to fuck up my delivery! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Don't see a problem with that kind of wage being offered. Some other players getting paid more than they deserve should be a lesson not to continue down that path rather than add more to it. If we go giving him in line with players we moan about being overpaid we'll soon be moaning about him being overpaid too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,421 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Word is the government are planning to give us a hefty fine and name and shame us for paying Bates below the national minimum wage. We will probably get relegated for it too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I hope he signs a new contract ,he has come on greatly this season and looks like he has been working hard to improve his game. I also think whoever spotted him while playing at Raith Rovers and rated him did a great job. I am sure I remember someone on here a good while back saying that he was not rated that highly by Raith Rovers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 31 minutes ago, Amato said: £2500 p/w seems like a perfectly reasonable offer. Assuming it settles out at say £3k a week (over £150k a year) that's a great wage for a 21 year old who has only played a handful of games for us (and not that many more for lower league teams prior to signing for us). Can't compare him to the likes of Alves who has 90 odd caps for Portugal and who should be our absolute best CB. A handful of games? He’s played more games than Alves this season and has taken his place in the team. What Alves should be and what he is are two completely different things. We need to stop clinging on to all the caps he’s won as justification for how pish he is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,756 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Tierney was on 4K per week until his new contract signed Oct last year. (his uncle is a customer of mine). Bates is now a first team regular and has to be worth 5k a week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Siwel said: A handful of games? He’s played more games than Alves this season and has taken his place in the team. What Alves should be and what he is are two completely different things. We need to stop clinging on to all the caps he’s won as justification for how pish he is. So we offer him a shit ton of money because we're overpaying Alves? He has only played a handful of games. My point re Alves was that when he signed he was a renowned, experienced international. You can see why he was given the contract he was, though he hasn't lived up to expectations. Shouldn't be offering ridiculous money to the likes of Bates on the back of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Tierney was on 4K per week until his new contract signed Oct last year. (his uncle is a customer of mine). Bates is now a first team regular and has to be worth 5k a week. And whilst on or before earning 4K pw represented scotland youths, had over 70 domestic appearances for the scum, played european including CL football, then a month after signing new contract captained his country. Yet Bates despite not being comparable in terms of level of achievements should be on 25% more than Tierney was whilst he was genuinely establishing and proving himself. Why so? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,782 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Sasa Papac's War Flashbac. said: Right, but we’re talking about now. He’s done nowhere near enough for nowhere near long enough to warrant anything other than a modest bump. Adding an extra two thirds on to your wages every week is more than a modest bump. He’s done well this season, but I’m in total agreement with you. The offer on the table is good for where he’s at at the moment. It’s funny how people talk about how we’ve paid over the odds for players for years and now there is faux outrage that we aren’t giving a guy who might not even be first choice next season a massive wage rise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, Amato said: So we offer him a shit ton of money because we're overpaying Alves? He has only played a handful of games. My point re Alves was that when he signed he was a renowned, experienced international. You can see why he was given the contract he was, though he hasn't lived up to expectations. Shouldn't be offering ridiculous money to the likes of Bates on the back of that. Who said offer him a shit tonne offer him 3-4K with incentives that would get it increased if he meets certain targets ffs. no one at all is saying give Bates Alves’ contract Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Adding an extra two thirds on to your wages every week is more than a modest bump. He’s done well this season, but I’m total agreement with you. The offer on the table is good for where he’s at at the moment. It’s funny how people talk about how we’ve paid over the odds for players for years and now there is faux outrage that we aren’t giving a guy who might not even be first choice next season a massive wage rise. Not being funny but there seems to be a lot of guess-work in that. How do you know what he is on and what offer is on the table? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, plumbGER said: Not being funny but there seems to be a lot of guess-work in that. How do you know what he is on and what offer is on the table? The OP told us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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