williamcarvel9 87 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Just watched the documentary there. I was born in 88 so didn't realise how good a squad it was. But scum press trying to destroy careers and lives back then too, didn't realise how bad Johnston got it either Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Scotland had properly good squads in 74 and 78. Should've been represented in the latter stages at least once. dougie76, Zappa6995 and BlueAvenger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaudrup 5,343 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 So much pain, only surpassed by later pain at things getting worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,108 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I watched this on the i-player last week and the over riding emotion was pain. Remembered my wee Grandad shedding tears of frustration and hurt after the Iran game and since that night I have never bothered my arse with the Scottish national football team. Sonnybear1972 and Fred H Crawford 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,975 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 It’s embarrassing how we let that clown take us all in. BlueAvenger and lefkada 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 That was the first World cup I remember, 8 years old, archie Gemmels goal, amazing, still love the world cup tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, harlands plater said: It’s embarrassing how we let that clown take us all in. You weren't on the march with Allys army, ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedylan 11,555 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Great tournament did that clown leave Souness out at the start?What is forgot about the game against Holland was how dirty the Dutch team were in that game...total football my hole! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, TEFTONG said: I watched this on the i-player last week and the over riding emotion was pain. Remembered my wee Grandad shedding tears of frustration and hurt after the Iran game and since that night I have never bothered my arse with the Scottish national football team. Peru and Iran, had never heard of them, Holland, at 8 years old, if you liked football, you liked them ?? BloodRunsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,975 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Just now, 2nd Flute said: You weren't on the march with Allys army, ??? Only the home games in the qualifying group, at the time we all supported the national team. But Ally McLeod raised expectations to a ridiculous level, and the nation felt we only had to turn up to win it. bluedylan and eejay the dj 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedylan 11,555 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, harlands plater said: Only the home games in the qualifying group, at the time we all supported the national team. But Ally McLeod raised expectations to a ridiculous level, and the nation felt we only had to turn up to win it. Victory parade around Hampden before they went 2nd Flute 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, harlands plater said: Only the home games in the qualifying group, at the time we all supported the national team. But Ally McLeod raised expectations to a ridiculous level, and the nation felt we only had to turn up to win it. Yeh, the very thing we hate about England, at least we learned our lesson, they never, tbh, I think the English have been pretty low key, I'll be supporting them anyway, I know it's rivalry and shite, but how anyone can want teams like Germany and those greasy,dug eating argentinians to beat England, is way beyond me. Band of Brothers and AlbertzLoyalRSC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, bluedylan said: Victory parade around Hampden before they went Chased around Hampden when they came back ??? harlands plater 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, 2nd Flute said: Yeh, the very thing we hate about England, at least we learned our lesson, they never, tbh, I think the English have been pretty low key, I'll be supporting them anyway, I know it's rivalry and shite, but how anyone can want teams like Germany and those greasy,dug eating argentinians to beat England, is way beyond me. My thoughts exactly. AlbertzLoyalRSC and 2nd Flute 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRunsBlue 1,303 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 hours ago, 2nd Flute said: Peru and Iran, had never heard of them, Holland, at 8 years old, if you liked football, you liked them ?? Robbie Rensenbrink and Johnny Rep. Names I'll never forget due to that tournament. When the games were over, I was out in the street being those guys. No idea where they played their club football, and dont think I ever heard of them again, but that team played some great fitbaw. eejay the dj and 2nd Flute 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedylan 11,555 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, BloodRunsBlue said: Robbie Rensenbrink and Johnny Rep. Names I'll never forget due to that tournament. When the games were over, I was out in the street being those guys. No idea where they played their club football, and dont think I ever heard of them again, but that team played some great fitbaw. Scotland actually played the better football in that game against Holland who tried to kick them off the park Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, BloodRunsBlue said: Robbie Rensenbrink and Johnny Rep. Names I'll never forget due to that tournament. When the games were over, I was out in the street being those guys. No idea where they played their club football, and dont think I ever heard of them again, but that team played some great fitbaw. Me too mate, Johny Rep sticks in my mind, and the ball? a world cup ball ? BloodRunsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,467 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 11 hours ago, williamcarvel9 said: Just watched the documentary there. I was born in 88 so didn't realise how good a squad it was. But scum press trying to destroy careers and lives back then too, didn't realise how bad Johnston got it either Macari was the wee press bitch. Even in the documentary he stuck the wee man right in it. I just about remember '74 but '78 will probably always be my favourite World Cup. bluedylan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedylan 11,555 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, Moody Blue Legend said: Macari was the wee press bitch. Even in the documentary he stuck the wee man right in it. I just about remember '74 but '78 will probably always be my favourite World Cup. Spain 82 for me but 78 was brilliant ...the teams atmosphere and even the kits. I remember staying up late with my dad to watch the games ...the Argentina v Peru game sticks out. Moody Blue Legend and TEFTONG 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I was at the friendly when Argentina pumped us 3-1 with a young Maradona running the show, way back when supporting Scotland was something I cared about. Fred H Crawford, bluedylan and BloodRunsBlue 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRunsBlue 1,303 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 44 minutes ago, bluedylan said: Scotland actually played the better football in that game against Holland who tried to kick them off the park We probably did mate. I remember it well. At 3-1 we needed one more goal, but it all ended in typical glorious failure when Rep scored from 30 yards. I doubt Scotland has played that well since. bluedylan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred H Crawford 1,182 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 The planning and preparation that Ally and the sfa put into that tournament was a fucking disgrace . That Scotland squad was capable of a lot more (same as the '74 & 82 teams ) but let down by poor management , Ormond and McLeod picked a side and then expected the players to work things out for themselves while the Man who Knew was the opposite and stifled flair players in order to adhere to a system that was designed to get us through the tournament without tarnishing BJK's " legend " . That was probably the last time that Scotland sent a team to a World Cup looking to do more than just take part . I enjoyed the programme though , even if it told us nothing new . Loved seeing the old boy buying his butcher meat with the fag hanging out his mouth changed days indeed ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedylan 11,555 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fred H Crawford said: The planning and preparation that Ally and the sfa put into that tournament was a fucking disgrace . That Scotland squad was capable of a lot more (same as the '74 & 82 teams ) but let down by poor management , Ormond and McLeod picked a side and then expected the players to work things out for themselves while the Man who Knew was the opposite and stifled flair players in order to adhere to a system that was designed to get us through the tournament without tarnishing BJK's " legend " . That was probably the last time that Scotland sent a team to a World Cup looking to do more than just take part . I enjoyed the programme though , even if it told us nothing new . Loved seeing the old boy buying his butcher meat with the fag hanging out his mouth changed days indeed ! If I remember correctly Souness was not picked for the opening game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyaleastend 3,260 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, bluedylan said: If I remember correctly Souness was not picked for the opening game “I’ve never been dropped in my life “ was his famous reaction bluedylan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred H Crawford 1,182 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, bluedylan said: If I remember correctly Souness was not picked for the opening game In Argentina , he only played in the game against the Dutch . Spain '82 , I'm think he captained the side . To be fair to McLeod , Rioch & Masson had done well in the qualifiers but by the Home Internationals it's fair to say they were struggling to achieve that previous form , and Souness , Gemmill and Hartford all had decent claims to be first choice for the tournament proper but Ally was loyal to a fault when it came to certain players , His choice of putting his old Aberdeen player Joe Harper before DJ, who had just scored 38 goals in a treble winning side , sums that up . 6 minutes ago, Loyaleastend said: “I’ve never been dropped in my life “ was his famous reaction Was that not in response to SAF leaving him out of the Uruguay game in Mexico 86 ? bluedylan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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