The Beast

I think it will be Brown and either McCulloch or Gow. We need a more defensively minded left sided midfielder as a direct replacement for Clement. Neither McCulloch or Gow will fill that role.

I'd guess Walter's targets for this season are: Finishing 2nd in the SPL Reducing the points defecit to Celtic to single figures. Reaching at least the last 16 of the UEFA cup. All 3 should be achievable but he will not be able to do it with the current squad for obvious reasons. He has to look at short term quick fixes in key areas first and in parallel look to address things longer term. I have no problem at all with the signing of Weir as part of this process indeed his experience may help turn Svensson into the player we thought we were getting. I'm less sure about Ehiogu though, I'd rather stick with Weir and Svensson with Webster maybe coming back into contention later this season.

Which 5 managers ? I can get McLeish, PLG and Walter (for his first game anyway) but who else ? Are you counting Durrant's one game in charge ? Even with that - who else ?

In many ways I like Hutton, there's no doubting his committment or his affection for the club, he's managed to overcome a lot of unwarrented abuse from his own fans and on his day he's a decent right back. BUT. Is he good enough to make the position his own for the next few years - I have my doubts. Unless there is a major improvement under Walter with regard to his consistancy I forsee that we'll have a new RB maybe not in January but certainly in the summer.

If it happens then that's Scotland fecked then.

It would be worth taking a look at Simon Davies, Everton are looking to offload him for ?2-3M.

Isn't an England flag with a red hand on it an Ulster flag ?

I think McCulloch is a decent player and would be an improvement to the current squad. Is he the player to take us to the "next level"......maybe not but let's face it we've been struggling to maintain our place in the current level in the last two years. If we can get him for a reasonable price I'd say yes go for it.

Thanks DB

Of the German international player who played for Spurs within the last couple of seasons ?

Actually I think Hearts probably still beat us for that title.

While I don't agree with those that say he does nothing apart from score, I do think he must improve his overall game. It's a bit of a cliche but modern strikers are effective outside the box as well as inside. PLG was right in this regard but the way he went about things was wrong and was ultimately part of his own downfall.

Indeed, Rangers have always had English players in the side. I wonder if people would kick up so much of a fuss about it if it was any other countries tops people were wearing. I think it's a generational thing as well. People of my age (mid 30's) and older were generally brought up as Rangers and Scotland fans. I would no more consider wearing an England top than I would a Celtic one.

Just goes to re-inforce how bad McLeish was. Let's not forget that with all the PLG/Walter stuff going on.

exactly ok the signings didn't hit the ground running but you could see the potential...there were signs on the good days of some very impressive football being played, if luck had been on our side on the days we had created so many chances the points difference with Celtic wouldn't have been so great. If only the guys had just tried to follow 100% what he was asking them we could have gone to a new level but it wasn't to be Sorry but it's the managers job to ensure that the players follow his instructions. If he can't do that then he shouldn't be there in the first place. what do you wish a manager do? run on the park and kick the feckers arse? He tried to manage the situation by dropping him, what else could he do, coz given the way things appear to be between PLG & Fergie a wee chat would not have worked. anyway PLG has gone now, lets move forward. WATP I expect a manager to manage. I manage at my work, if someone was deliberately undermining me then I would come down on them like a ton of bricks. I wouldn't conduct a campaign in the press. I wouldn't leave things until they hit such a low that it became a "him or me" scenario. I wouldn't allow a deep divide to be created among other members of my team. Make no mistake, PLG was at fault for this. If Barry had tried that with Walter or Souness or Advocaat his feet wouldn't have touched the ground. Two of the most important skills any manager in any industry must have are strong decisive leadership and conflict management. As far as I can tell PLG displayed neither quality.

That's the way they are. Their hatred of us is more important to them than their love of their own club.

exactly ok the signings didn't hit the ground running but you could see the potential...there were signs on the good days of some very impressive football being played, if luck had been on our side on the days we had created so many chances the points difference with Celtic wouldn't have been so great. If only the guys had just tried to follow 100% what he was asking them we could have gone to a new level but it wasn't to be Sorry but it's the managers job to ensure that the players follow his instructions. If he can't do that then he shouldn't be there in the first place.

There is no way McLeish would ever be welcomed back as manager. PLG fecked things up but a big part of the background to that was the total shambles he inherited.

I'm not too chuffed he is gone but nothing can be done. My main issue is the way the situation was dealt with. Made the club look like a farse if you ask me. I agree made us look unprofessional and undisciplined. I should of perhaps went into a bit more detail... I don't think PLG has caused the mess. I think it's a mixture between PLG's arrogance, BF's immaturity and DM's incompetence. I think it was more a mixture of... PLG's horrendous tactics. PLG's stubborness and unwillingness to change his horrendous tactics up until recently. PLG's rotten team selections (Letizi over McGregor ??) PLG's hideous signings. I agree that PLG wasn't entirely responsible but he carries the majority of the blame for his own demise. A year ago I couldn't wait until I saw the back of McLeish but I can't think of one thing that was better under PLG than it had been under McLeish. Tactics, preparation, man-management, baffling press-conferences, alienating certain players, poor signings....... these were all problems under BOTH McLeish and PLG. I bought into the whole PLG euphoria last summer and I feel especially let down. I knew McLeish was a crap manager for Rangers but it hurt to find out the same about PLG.

Does anyone truly believe that Hartley: 1) Would not enhance the team 2) Would not give 100% Personally speaking I would rather have a good player who was a childhood Celtic fan than some of the pish we have playing for us just now. Neil McCann was a Celtic supporter as a boy brought up in a Celtic supporting family, did that make him any less a Ranger when he pulled on the jersey ?

Absence makes the heart grow fonder I guess.he will always be the Ginger Genius to me,a utter disaster,we are where we are today because of him,let's not fool ourselves. Load of bull. There?s only two people to blame and that?s Dick Advocaat and David Murray and their little spending spree. That is the reason why "we are where we are today". Big Eck barley got a single penny to spend (bar the boumsong cash) in 4 years. Big Eck along with Murray saved this club if it wasn't for him and Murray this club would be dead in the water. What utter garbage. McLeish should never have got anywhere near the Rangers job. He lacked virtually every skill required by manager of a big club. Good riddance.

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il get it for you B) Ta very much.

My post count is goosed ! Any chance someone could fix it for me ?

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