bloonosed 14 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 So Pound Sterling, AKA the currency of the United Kingdom? Controlled by the Bank of England. Good luck with that.Well since it was a Scotsman that founded the Bank of England and Scotland is currently in the UK...then i would say that Scotland has some pretty good experience as far as luck would go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz 306 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Well since it was a Scotsman that founded the Bank of England and Scotland is currently in the UK...then i would say that Scotland has some pretty good experience as far as luck would go.What relevance does that have?Fact is, if we went independent, our economy would be controlled by the English. Who we would have just pissed off.It's fucking suicide even thinking about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloonosed 14 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 What relevance does that have?Fact is, if we went independent, our economy would be controlled by the English. Who we would have just pissed off.It's fucking suicide even thinking about it.What relevance does it have ? As much relevance as the statement you made about scotlands currency being controlled by england.It is also relevant because it shows that Scotsmen are capable of running a banking system (as per banking history)i am not a nationalist by the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARGER 339 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 If this was Norway, Sweden, Denmark. Finland, Croatia, Slovakia, Slovenia, etc., ect would we be having this discussion ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Proddie1690 132 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 What relevance does it have ? As much relevance as the statement you made about scotlands currency being controlled by england.It is also relevant because it shows that Scotsmen are capable of running a banking system (as per banking history)i am not a nationalist by the way.LOL mate, we can't use pounds sterling and govern it ourselves The currency is controlled by the Bank Of England and since its THEIR currency they get to decide how much of that currency is in the market place at any one time there by having control over the economy.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Ok...suppose I'm right.Why do they want to obliterate Rangers?As there's been a persecution complex amongst Scottish Catholics for nigh on a Century - they feel hated, depised, second-class citizens. They might once have had a point. In 2012 that persecution complex remains but they've a degree of power now and Rangers F.C is the ultimate bastion of what they perceive as 'anti-Catholic' power. Remember all the 'Establishment' stuff? That gets to the root of it. Rangers are the Scottish establishment in their eyes and all that's represented the repression of them and their fathers and their father's fathers. To see the end of Rangers is a an ultimate win for them....the ultimate blow of free Catholics against the Scottish Protestant Establishment...as they see it.It's bigoted ancient nonsense of course but sadly, in 2012, so many Scottish Catholics still feel this way.I know it.And I know many will stop at nothing to eliminate Rangers....for they've been bred to see Rangers as the 'enemy' to them...and their religion.Dramatic? Sorry....just the sad truth of religious Scotland 2012.My mate, who's a tim, keeps going on about how his dad couldn't get a job in the 70s cos he was a catholic, fuck all to do with him being a lazy bone idle bastard tho. They truly are fucking deranged. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 i really dont want to argue the point here, but alot of what you've said is wrong, and you seriously underestimate Scotland as a power, as for the Oil, yes we may not own the rigs, but we do own the fields they lye in, which would take care of itself when it comes to it,if you dont mind, we'll agree to disagree.No we don't own the fields they are owned by the UK GOVERNMENT. Do you really think they are gona say, here ye go.Also I believe a country's water border is 12 miles out, nearly every rig out their is further than that, I work in the industry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Like I said, you've no got any policies, doesn't matter what thread it gets discussed in or what language, Gaelic or Manderin, no policies, nada, zip...I love the way all the anti-snp brigade want to attach their agenda to Rangers by keeping this debate going in the BD and yet are scared (well thats the way it seems to me) to go to the correct forum and start up the debate - perhaps admin should just PIN this thread here as this debate will go on for at least the next 2.5 years!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 What relevance does that have?Fact is, if we went independent, our economy would be controlled by the English. Who we would have just pissed off.It's fucking suicide even thinking about it.Run scared from Big Brother - great way to determine your future - let Big Brother handle your future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff-man 0 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 we need tae get the power back fae these taigs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz 306 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Run scared from Big Brother - great way to determine your future - let Big Brother handle your future.Big Brother? Ironic given Salmonds recent moves to infringe freedom of speech. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Big Brother? Ironic given Salmonds recent moves to infringe freedom of speech.Take it out of the BD and we can debate that as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz 306 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Take it out of the BD and we can debate that as well.We can debate it here too, but good luck with that. The last person who tried to debate me committed suicide because he was beaten so badly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Big Brother? Ironic given Salmonds recent moves to infringe freedom of speech.Not to mention his blustering populism, his bullying parliamentary opponents to avoid debate and his move to bring all the police forces under his control.His regular description of a minority vote as a 'landslide'......It's a road map to tyranny and people are following it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Proddie1690 132 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Not to mention his blustering populism, his bullying parliamentary opponents to avoid debate and his move to bring all the police forces under his control.His regular description of a minority vote as a 'landslide'......It's a road map to tyranny and people are following it.I just can't understand for the life of me how any sane person can vote for Salmond and the SNP. if people think their gonna be better off under his ultra-socialist policies then they need their heads checked.. Be a rude awakening for some if he does manage to con his way to an independent Scotland, scares the life out of me personally..And whens he gonna actually add some sustenance to his argument for an independent Scotland? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue72 8 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 No we don't own the fields they are owned by the UK GOVERNMENT. Do you really think they are gona say, here ye go.Also I believe a country's water border is 12 miles out, nearly every rig out their is further than that, I work in the industry.If you really work in the industry you should know more about it - the fields are LICENSED to the oil companies. And the borders can go out to 200 miles, not 12 miles.Most of the money comes from the revenues - the 60-70% tax on each barrel of oil. Then the companies are taxed again on their profits.Around 90% of the oil is in Scottish waters - according to international law.Most of my guys I know who work in the industry know the real story.One of my mates works with Faroe, and says all the Norwegian guys feel sorry for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz 306 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 If you really work in the industry you should know more about it - the fields are LICENSED to the oil companies. And the borders can go out to 200 miles, not 12 miles.Most of the money comes from the revenues - the 60-70% tax on each barrel of oil. Then the companies are taxed again on their profits.Around 90% of the oil is in Scottish waters - according to international law.Most of my guys I know who work in the industry know the real story.One of my mates works with Faroe, and says all the Norwegian guys feel sorry for us.I work in the industry too, and can safely back up corkinator. You're talking pish, and so are your mates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 If you really work in the industry you should know more about it - the fields are LICENSED to the oil companies. And the borders can go out to 200 miles, not 12 miles.Most of the money comes from the revenues - the 60-70% tax on each barrel of oil. Then the companies are taxed again on their profits.Around 90% of the oil is in Scottish waters - according to international law.Most of my guys I know who work in the industry know the real story.One of my mates works with Faroe, and says all the Norwegian guys feel sorry for us.Another fkn internet 'International Lawyer', just what we need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1690 793 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I just can't understand for the life of me how any sane person can vote for Salmond and the SNP. if people think their gonna be better off under his ultra-socialist policies then they need their heads checked.. Be a rude awakening for some if he does manage to con his way to an independent Scotland, scares the life out of me personally..And whens he gonna actually add some sustenance to his argument for an independent Scotland?He wont & cant. As he knows the scottish people will not vote for independance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue72 8 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Jesus Christ, guys that apparently work in the industry, and know fuck all about the facts.The tax is on the REVENUES , ffs.It doesn't matter who licenses the fields - the government controls the tax rate.Do some research, if you don't believe me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 If this was Norway, Sweden, Denmark. Finland, Croatia, Slovakia, Slovenia, etc., ect would we be having this discussion ?None of them are considering leaving the UK so I doubt it.Likewise the USA, Brazil, Turkey, Israel, China, India, Pakistan, Chile, Equador, South Africa, Morocco..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Jesus Christ, guys that apparently work in the industry, and know fuck all about the facts.The tax is on the REVENUES , ffs.It doesn't matter who licenses the fields - the government controls the tax rate.Do some research, if you don't believe me.Why would people want to do your research for you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 We can debate it here too, but good luck with that. The last person who tried to debate me committed suicide because he was beaten so badly.Wow now I am scared you must be a master debater ok you win ... Or we could just give it a wee shot out with the db as it has fk all to do with Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1690 793 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 None of them are considering leaving the UK so I doubt it.Likewise the USA, Brazil, Turkey, Israel, China, India, Pakistan, Chile, Equador, South Africa, Morocco..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz 306 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Wow now I am scared you must be a master debater ok you win ... Or we could just give it a wee shot out with the db as it has fk all to do with RangersOnce again, Buzz pushes apart the thick thighs of incoherence, peels back the labia minora of propaganda and feasts on the clitoris of triumph. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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