Duff & Phelps out now

[achaleven 38]

The documentary was IMO amateurish. Sensationalism which was designed to basically stir things up just as if it looks like we might just come through this thing. All done under the pretence of an investigation on behalf of the supporters. Part of Daly's big exposure was the fact that SDM borrowed £6 million pounds from the BOS to originally buy Rangers. Whether that's the case or not since when has it become illegal to borrow money from a reputable bank to buy a football club? Excuse me but did not some parties recently take out a loan for 100s of millions in the form of a mortgage to buy a major club? Haven't seen that one aired on the BBC. The only things that would concern me is that the BBC may well have inside info that the BTC has gone against us. They played heavily on the EBTs, player and staff involvement etc. If there is no legal reaction from D & P then that, IMO, will tell us that maybe, just maybe the BBC are right again.

[Edmiston Drive 3,846]

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grier needs investigated. d&p should be doing that. he works for d&p.

if you can't see the issue your a moron.

Yet here we have you...................... someone who cannot see that mini and the failures did not have the where all to clinch a deal..............someone who makes sweeping statements that has never backed up with any proof.........................if you can't see that , then your a moron, using your description of others.

You have obviously read and verified that this email was indeed as they daly and the bbc reported, why did they show this all damning email blurred on screen? .....they haven't told porkies in the pasy have they, to suit their own purpose a la Ally situation.

So bbc have track record and that is only one eg given. They have taken a stance on the Rangers situation and will make programs to suit their stance...................now what has made them take this stance.................sectarian/racist based, a hatred for our club..........that is for people wiser than me to comment on.

Question for discussion...........mr daly I understand is a sellic fan Y/N if Y then next question during his time , has he ever sang those songs we associate with this club so if this was the situation would in a court of law , make of his impartiality.

..................................................................................................................................................................................(that is for you to give me your reply)

And when you think of how people like daly and speirs the professionals (lol) call people on forums the keyboard hard men................well his embarrassing hard man act on the phone yesterday and believing people would fall for that, really added with the build up to the meeting with the porn guy, the story told by the ex Noble Grossart guy and the now infamous sammy.

The timing of this program was out out for a reason to cause maximum damage and upset to the process of the administration ......or could it be that daly is in tow with whyte and D&P to take Rangers into liquidation and what about GS is he also part of this and mini , what about him have all these failed bids been part of this conspiracy that a few people on here have been stating from the off on here.

someone call this man

Seems to be that a number have been accusing others of this , so thought I would add another name for them.

[ace1 49]

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grier needs investigated. d&p should be doing that. he works for d&p.

if you can't see the issue your a moron.

You keep refering to "evidence" provided by that BBC documentary, why? Look at these emails. Full of spelling mistakes, possible important info blackened out (including the electronic signature on one of David Grier) & the fact that they're FORWARDED MESSAGES. Forwarded emails can be modified VERY easily to suit someone's agenda.

The knowledge of David Grier having some sort of involvement with CW was known back on 14th Feb when D+P were appointed BY THE COURTS (who obviously didn't see it as a conflict of interest then, or when they had to re-instate D+P as admin after that paperwork issue a few weeks later), yet you, like a desperate Septic fan now cling onto that info in hopes of it damaging RFC after a crappy BBC program that showed NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE to back the whole program up & was full of contradiction of itself & certain FACTS we already are aware of??

Now who's the moron? And a gullible one at that, as you have given the exact reaction the whole charade of a show was hoping to achieve & been sucked in by it!

[boss 1,941]

Grier may or may not be as guilty as sin, but I have seen no evidence to show that he knew in advance about the Ticketus money being used to acquire the Club. The emails and minutes shown last night do not provide such evidence and nor does a stitch-up job by Dhaly and the BBC.

[allanh91 75]

Aye, let's all protest and get them chucked out and that leaves administration back at day 1, as D+P have been in talks with the major parties that will determine a CVA's success, amongst other things.

We'll get some new lads in and Rangers will be in administration for much longer than they need to be.

D+P will be out and on to their next case by the end of june, and will be far, far away from Rangers. They don't have much left to do so let them just get on with it, so we can end this hell one way or another. Moan about Mark "I'm a total wankstain" Daly's documentary after we're out and safe. What difference does it make in the meantime?

[gunslinger 270]

Grier may or may not be as guilty as sin, but I have seen no evidence to show that he knew in advance about the Ticketus money being used to acquire the Club. The emails and minutes shown last night do not provide such evidence and nor does a stitch-up job by Dhaly and the BBC.

and any other evidence is in the hands of his collegues at d&p.

that's the conflict of interest.

[Turnberry18 3,204]

Grier may or may not be as guilty as sin, but I have seen no evidence to show that he knew in advance about the Ticketus money being used to acquire the Club. The emails and minutes shown last night do not provide such evidence and nor does a stitch-up job by Dhaly and the BBC.

That is a crucial argument, and possibly one that others will really look at.

[gunslinger 270]

what grier knew is irrelevant to this conflict of interest.

[boss 1,941]

what grier knew is irrelevant to this conflict of interest.

As your argument seems to keep changing, can you please define once and for all exactly what the conflict of interest is and why that is so fundamental to the conduct of the Administration?

[Edmiston Drive 3,846]

As your argument seems to keep changing, can you please define once and for all exactly what the conflict of interest is and why that is so fundamental to the conduct of the Administration?

And so say all of us

[ace1 49]

what grier knew is irrelevant to this conflict of interest.

You what? Of course its relevant, otherwise there's NO conflict of interest! The only conflict of interest here is the one between your brain & your fingers while you're typing your pish!

[gunslinger 270]

As your argument seems to keep changing, can you please define once and for all exactly what the conflict of interest is and why that is so fundamental to the conduct of the Administration?

yes if grier knew about ticketus he should be part of the court case.

d&p cannot be trusted to make that decision.

someone else has to be the one deciding.

also if we are liquidated then legal action can't be taken against d&p. so their is a conflict of interest there as well.

but you know this.

[boss 1,941]

yes if grier knew about ticketus he should be part of the court case.

d&p cannot be trusted to make that decision.

You're making as little sense as usual. Grier knew about the Ticketus working capital arrangements - most people did. But just like the BhBC, you use the phrase "knew about Ticketus" to imply a multitude of sins. The BhBC and TBK parroting the same line makes me sad.

No-one has provided any proof that Grier knew about the Ticketus money being used for the acquisition - do you have any such proof so that you can demonstrate a conflict of interest?

also if we are liquidated then legal action can't be taken against d&p. so their is a conflict of interest there as well.

Lol - you mean just like any Administration that ends in a Liquidation? You've not made your point clear at all.

[gunslinger 270]

You're making as little sense as usual. Grier knew about the Ticketus working capital arrangements - most people did. But just like the BhBC, you use the phrase "knew about Ticketus" to imply a multitude of sins. The BhBC and TBK parroting the same line makes me sad.

No-one has provided any proof that Grier knew about the Ticketus money being used for the acquisition - do you have any such proof so that you can demonstrate a conflict of interest?

Lol - you mean just like any Administration that ends in a Liquidation? You've not made your point clear at all.

what grier knew and dindnt know is irrelevant to any conflict of interest.

stop playing the fool. your not clever enough for it.

[boss 1,941]

what grier knew and dindnt know is irrelevant to any conflict of interest.

You've been asked:

As your argument seems to keep changing, can you please define once and for all exactly what the conflict of interest is and why that is so fundamental to the conduct of the Administration?

and so far you've been unable or unwilling to do so. I wonder why.

[gunslinger 270]

You've been asked:

and so far you've been unable or unwilling to do so. I wonder why.

if you don't understand conflict of interest with your background I suggest you nip into one of those lawyers on your street in your lunch hour and get them to explain it.

if we are liquidated by d&p it won't be because it was necessary it will be by design and its you me and the other rangers fans that will suffer. if your ok with that then that's fine. I am not.

[boss 1,941]

if you don't understand conflict of interest with your background I suggest you nip into one of those lawyers on your street in your lunch hour and get them to explain it.

I know what a conflict of interest is. I'm waiting on you to clarify exactly why you think there is one here, what proof you have of that, and what affect it has had on the conduct of the Administration.

You seem unable or unwilling to do so. Batting the generality back to me is childish.

Waiting...

[gunslinger 270]

I know what a conflict of interest is. I'm waiting on you to clarify exactly why you think there is one here, what proof you have of that, and what affect it has had on the conduct of the Administration.

You seem unable or unwilling to do so. Batting the generality back to me is childish.

Waiting...

then I don't need to explain again.

[boss 1,941]

then I don't need to explain again.

Indeed you don't need to explain again - you need to explain for the first time.

[gunslinger 270]

its your club boss same as mine. your not the problem Im not going to argue this out with you any more. you know my views and no one hopes I am wrong more than me.

to be clear I believe we will soon be unnecessarily liquidated because its what whyte and d&p always wanted.

[Devlin 222]

if you don't understand conflict of interest with your background I suggest you nip into one of those lawyers on your street in your lunch hour and get them to explain it.

if we are liquidated by d&p it won't be because it was necessary it will be by design and its you me and the other rangers fans that will suffer. if your ok with that then that's fine. I am not.

How about trying to explain it to the other members on here that don't have relevant backgrounds...

[gunslinger 270]

How about trying to explain it to the other members on here that don't have relevant backgrounds...

sure d&p might have a case for suing grier but grier is their colleague.

[boss 1,941]

its your club boss same as mine. your not the problem Im not going to argue this out with you any more. you know my views and no one hopes I am wrong more than me.

So you can't or won't answer the question. Fair enough, I guess we'll just need to assume you didn't know what you were talking about, which is a simple and regular thought process for us to follow.

[gunslinger 270]

So you can't or won't answer the question. Fair enough, I guess we'll just need to assume you didn't know what you were talking about, which is a simple and regular thought process for us to follow.

[boss 1,941]

sure d&p might have a case for suing grier but grier is their colleague.

At least we've come down from "clear conflict" blah blah, to "might have a case". Your new phraseology no longer implies the proof that you're sure the BBC stitch-up provides.