Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Fuxache. Can somebody rep this for me please?Imagine we played on Guy Fawkes nightPyro ya bass Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go with the Flo 2 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Scotland is our Country, we should represent it as only we can, we didnt fuck Alan Brazil so we are above the rest, they the SFA may not like it but we are the history, we are the present and we shall carry this country as we always have Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Fuxache. Can somebody rep this for me please?You owe me two when you get reps back. I never rep Swally. He's a clown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Bangers FC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 They've probably been told that their getting a new 51k seater stadium north of the border.Apparently they are compiling a big list of questions for Green as we speak and if he doesn't answer them by 8am"they're out" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You owe me two when you get reps back. I never rep Swally. He's a clown.Thats the 1st time av repped um actually.Al return yer reps.Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You owe me two when you get reps back. I never rep Swally. He's a clown.That's a badge of honour I will wear with pride for the rest of my life Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Bury were in administration in 2002 due ot the collapse ofa TV deal with ITV Digitla (remember that?).they exited administration with a 10p/£ CVA and are now fan owned in part.Accounts from the previous 2 years show they posted a loss of 500k which the chairmen described as disasterous and blamed it on a harsh winter that casued postponement of home games, but halved that the following year to 250k which the chairman described as "light at the end of the tunnel".it would seem to me that such small amounts of money (<£1m) seem to be life or death for a club like Bury.The only way i see this being viable in the slightest is if Bury are staring down the barrel of Administration/Liquidation if they are still loss making.gvien the fan ownership, the fans would need to agree to it, so whats in it for them? I'd imagien we'd have to bid a huge amount, take their membership, then sell the club back to them for £1. It would mean they were 'newco'ing' themselves, debt free & whatever we paid for the club would be Bury's cash available to them to rebuild for the future. They would need to start from the conference presumably.All of this ofcourse is dependant on Bury being in the financial mire, if they are not, i have no idea why it would be bury linked with the story to begin with, and certainly wouldnt even be a starter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Apparently they are compiling a big list of questions for Green as we speak and if he doesn't answer them by 8am"they're out" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Fuck off - don't patronise me after hurting ma feelingsClowns have emotions as well you know Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger for life 199 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 33 members, 61 "guests" reading this thread. Hmmm Kiddyfiddler Street will be on red alert methinks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Fuck off - don't patronise me after hurting ma feelingsClowns have emotions as well you knowI'l always thought that sad face was put on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears&Reds 460 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I've been thinking about this, if we buy Bury then take their place in Division 1, we could easily give the ground back to the Bury fans who could form a new supporters owned club in the north west counties league and attempt to fight their way back up the leagues, not ideal for Bury but their fans would own their club and still have their stadium to play out of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
julescotia 11,407 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I aint too clued up in the rules, but isn't it against the rules for the same person / consortium to own 2 European clubs?If true, then that would rule it out, as Green & co would presumably own Rangers & Bury at one point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I've been thinking about this, if we buy Bury then take their place in Division 1, we could easily give the ground back to the Bury fans who could form a new supporters owned club in the north west counties league and attempt to fight their way back up the leagues, not ideal for Bury but their fans would own their club and still have their stadium to play out of.yup, if this story has any truth in it (which i doubt) then i think this would be the scenario. But why would Bury want that if it means relegation from League 1 down to the conference or regional leagues? The only reason i could see would be if they were going bust and had no other options, not even a fan buyout. But they arent even in administration, so unless Green stepped in with a crazy bid of £15m or somthing it doesnt seem to make a lick of sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,374 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 They average 3.5k fans a home game - if the fans have stopped caring about Bury, why should I care about the fans? Because 3.5k are still attending and don't deserve to be fucked over like this. What a shite justification for a wank idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I aint too clued up in the rules, but isn't it against the rules for the same person / consortium to own 2 European clubs?If true, then that would rule it out, as Green & co would presumably own Rangers & Bury at one pointRomanov owns Kaunus, and Hertz, and someone else am sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I've been thinking about this, if we buy Bury then take their place in Division 1, we could easily give the ground back to the Bury fans who could form a new supporters owned club in the north west counties league and attempt to fight their way back up the leagues, not ideal for Bury but their fans would own their club and still have their stadium to play out of.I'm being serious now. But does anyone actually know any of the rules about the possibilities of this. I still believe it's a very poor attempt by 'supposedly clued up' business men to hold the SFA to ransom. We need to be smarter than this. In fact we should start a thread of ideas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz92 966 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'm being serious now. But does anyone actually know any of the rules about the possibilities of this. I still believe it's a very poor attempt by 'supposedly clued up' business men to hold the SFA to ransom. We need to be smarter than this. In fact we should start a thread of ideas.I won't claim to be an expert on it either but I'd be pretty surprised if the idea wasn't brought to a halt at some point IF it was actually attempted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
julescotia 11,407 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Romanov owns Kaunus, and Hertz, and someone else am sure.Good shout Like I said I aint too clued up on the rules. What's this thing they call offside? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'm being serious now. But does anyone actually know any of the rules about the possibilities of this. I still believe it's a very poor attempt by 'supposedly clued up' business men to hold the SFA to ransom. We need to be smarter than this. In fact we should start a thread of ideas.not sure about the rules, but if the bury fans or shareholders didnt want i to happen, they would complain to the EFL/FA and no way in hell would they let it happen. Bury would need a reason to want to do it.transfer of membership from 1 club to another i think is untested waters. Clubs in the divisions below could be furious about us essentially buying our way in.However, Leeds did transfer their membership when they newco'd and got a 15 point deduction, but were allowed to stay in the league. it did stay within the same club however.There is also precedent set for non-english teams (cardiff/swansea).it could be we would need to buy a membership and then win a vote.So as far as the rules go, im really not sure, but i do think Charles Green will have some weight with the English League set up, given his past experience. Given our situation, id be surprised if he wasnt in dialouge with the chairmen of the EFL & other english club chairmen and exploring every avenue right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'm being serious now. Thank fuck somebody is Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHB 63 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 33 members, 61 "guests" reading this thread. Hmmm Kiddyfiddler Street will be on red alert methinks!The 'diddy brigade' from Pie & Bovril seem to spend many of their waking hours in here too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHB 63 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I won't claim to be an expert on it either but I'd be pretty surprised if the idea wasn't brought to a halt at some point IF it was actually attempted.We might see another recourse to the courts. Could be very interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird_Beard 99 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Thank fuck somebody isI shouldn't have called you a clown. Sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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