Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I believe the nappy rippers an the sheep are 2 clubs that used them and also Hearts (SFL3 feeder club) (SFL3 feeder club) could be a third.I know for a fact it's not Hearts (SFL3 feeder club), as they used and may still use ................DWT................................delayed wages trustsWell it is a Monday morning Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 EBT's were not illegal---we are not being accused of whether we had them or not ---it is the way they were implemented -i.e. as a dual contract that is being investigated ---just thought i'd try and clear up the confusion that seems to be rife on hereI've heard this view a hundred times mate - which i believe is a method to seperate the spl view from the hmrc view. But it is b.shit mate. What would the hmrc be looking for - yes, the very same thing, which they haven't found. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerclackman 167 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 But then as I was driving at about 8.45 the BBC Scotland guy who interview CG rolls out.....yep you guessed it, Rangers hater speirs who baisically says green is wrong, the SPL do have the right and bla bla bla......also said CG is just playing to he gallery, Please can we barr this publicity seeking golf show presenter from Ibrox. We dont need or want him there, him and loads more Barr the please !! People like him dont deaerve to be at our great stadium following our amazing fight back to the top...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
better than all the rest 153 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Quote- Rangers chief executive Charles Green claims "more than two" Scottish Premier League clubs have used employee benefits trusts.The Ibrox club's use of the scheme is the subject of an SPL investigation into payments to players.Celtic confirmed earlier this year they established one EBT in 2005.Green would "rather not say" which other clubs he was aware of that had used EBTs, but added: "I have put my hand up and they should do the same."The SPL will on Tuesday have an initial meeting of the commission to investigate the club's alleged use of dual contracts during the period EBTs were operated by the company that formerly ran Rangers.The league has more than a dozen sanctions, including stripping Rangers of league titles, at its disposal should it be decided that the club broke rules about side payments.However, no-one from Rangers will attend the meeting, with Green insisting on Monday that "neither the SPL, nor its commission, has any legal power or authority over the club because it is not in the SPL".And, speaking to BBC Radio Scotland's Good Morning Scotland programme, Green contended: "There is no-one to stand in front of them, this should have been done when the SPL had jurisdiction, and they didn't do it."You are allowed to have an EBT, you have to disclose it, and of course there is a whole raft of information that when these EBTs were being used they were disclosed."They were in the accounts, it's public knowledge, Rangers were a public company, you can go on the internet and see the disclosures."Rangers, who were relaunched by Green's consortium after the former incarnation could not be saved from liquidation, were placed in the Scottish Third Division after Green's bid to take over the SPL share previously owned by the club was rejected.And Green has suggested the Ibrox side may not seek re-entry to the top flight, should they be successful in progressing to and winning the First Division."Unless the SPL welcome us with open arms why would we go back there," he added."Ten clubs voted Rangers out of that league, what makes you think they would want Rangers back in."It begs the question will the league still be there in three years' time."Share thisRelated to this story:Rangers boycott SPL commission (10 Sep 12 | Rangers)SPL commission into Gers to meet (07 Sep 12 | Rangers)Well do you think we will be back in the SPL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRodgA2k8 542 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Well Celtic are one of them since they admitted they used one and did not declare it to the SPL/SFA Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,002 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The important point to remember is that the SPL ARE the other clubs. Therefore we're being investigated on the use of EBT in the full knowledge that those investigating us did the same.Why would that be? Bigotry and hate? Surely not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasie 103 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Well Celtic are one of them since they admitted they used one and did not declare it to the SPL/SFAThis is what I can't understand.Rangers treat EBTs as loans therefore not contractual payments therefore they don't need to be declared to SPL.Celtic paid tax on their EBT - therefore it no longer was an EBT - therefore it is a contractual payment. Was the payment declared? I don't know - but if they originally treated it as an EBT they would have been taking the line it was a loan and not need declaring. The fact they paid tax on it later lands them in even more shit than Rangers IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,002 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 This is what I can't understand.Rangers treat EBTs as loans therefore not contractual payments therefore they don't need to be declared to SPL.Celtic paid tax on their EBT - therefore it no longer was an EBT - therefore it is a contractual payment. Was the payment declared? I don't know - but if they originally treated it as an EBT they would have been taking the line it was a loan and not need declaring. The fact they paid tax on it later lands them in even more shit than Rangers IMO.But did they win anything that year? After all, this is all a ruse to get their filthy lecherous hands on our titles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcodebear 85 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Charlie making threats ..........www.newsnow.co.uk/A/597973225?-11344And Green has suggested the Ibrox side may not seek re-entry to the top flight, should they be successful in progressing to and winning the First Division."Unless the SPL welcome us with open arms why would we go back there," he added."Ten clubs voted Rangers out of that league, what makes you think they would want Rangers back in."It begs the question will the league still be there in three years' time." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54andcounting 627 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Just love this Guy:He said when asked by the interviewer if he would attend hearing in the future “ why would I it has nothing to do with me! You may as well attend if you have time; why don't you pop round! as it is as much to do with you as me! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19556304? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I know for a fact it's not Hearts (SFL3 feeder club) (SFL3 feeder club), as they used and may still use ................DWT................................delayed wages trustsWell it is a Monday morning A thought it was Tuesday morning? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 A thought it was Tuesday morning?You would have been right Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 But then as I was driving at about 8.45 the BBC Scotland guy who interview CG rolls out.....yep you guessed it, Rangers hater speirs who baisically says green is wrong, the SPL do have the right and bla bla bla......also said CG is just playing to he gallery, Please can we barr this publicity seeking golf show presenter from Ibrox. We dont need or want him there, him and loads more Barr the please !! People like him dont deaerve to be at our great stadium following our amazing fight back to the top......Does he still go to Ibrox as a press guy? I thought he got sacked from his paper? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 harles Green was live on BBC R1 this morning, "I've not got time to waste at Mickey Mouse events." (referring to the SPL's commission) He also says more than 2 clubs in the SPL have used EBTs.I know this has been mentioned on here as i've saw a few people guessing at whole the clubs are.I think he should just come out and tell us who they are if he knows who they are? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 A thought it was Tuesday morning?That was delayed too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Charlies interview was brilliant.It's about time the club stood up, drew a line in the sand and said enough is enough.Frankly, if he'd said something like that when the SPL vote was imminent, they would never have voted us out.However, he has now took us to Defcon 1 and fired off a pre-emptive strike on the SPL's enquiry.They now know for certain they face a stark choice. Drop any attempt to take titles or destroy what little is left of scottish football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Charlies interview was brilliant.It's about time the club stood up, drew a line in the sand and said enough is enough.Frankly, if he'd said something like that when the SPL vote was imminent, they would never have voted us out.However, he has now took us to Defcon 1 and fired off a pre-emptive strike on the SPL's enquiry.They now know for certain they face a stark choice. Drop any attempt to take titles or destroy what little is left of scottish football.Stupid cunts will be bankrupted, this still wouldn't be a big enough deterrent for them to think wisely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,051 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19556780 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Green does himself a disservice when he says he hasn't been listening to the fans, he has been...intently... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevotrueblue 382 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Green does himself a disservice when he says he hasn't been listening to the fans, he has been...intently...I think wae some of the things he comes out with sometimes he must be on here some nights,, remember his we dig at the uniforms? only a day or so after we where all taking the piss out of it on here lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I think wae some of the things he comes out with sometimes he must be on here some nights,, remember his we dig at the uniforms? only a day or so after we where all taking the piss out of it on here lolEither that or being fed a line or two....Fair play to him he is fulfilling what I imagine to be his remit very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Either that or being fed a line or two....Fair play to him he is fulfilling what I imagine to be his remit very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
77amurai 258 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 EBT's were not illegal---we are not being accused of whether we had them or not ---it is the way they were implemented -i.e. as a dual contract that is being investigated ---just thought i'd try and clear up the confusion that seems to be rife on hereit's amazing how often this needs to be explained. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54andcounting 627 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 it's amazing how often this needs to be explained.They do not wish to accept that fact because it distorts their agenda! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 You can almost feel the bile ripping out the BBC interviewer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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