bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Stupid question? It was meant to be rhetorical.Play out the fantasy. A new manager will need time to settle in and at the end of the day he will still have the same squad. Tactics come in to play but sooner or later people will understand our squad isn't that fcuking good.Bollocks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymate1690 657 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Stupid question? It was meant to be rhetorical.Play out the fantasy. A new manager will need time to settle in and at the end of the day he will still have the same squad. Tactics come in to play but sooner or later people will understand our squad isn't that fcuking good.the sqaud isnt that good compared to what we are used to but its about 20x's better than the teams we are playing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Street School 0 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Get a fuckin grip. We were through until a last minute 5 yard offside equaliser.Worry about the taig refereeing rather than the legend that is bad deep for our cause.Get real ya numpty... We shouldn't require last minute bull**** from anywhere! Surely? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm just back from the game, I'm cold and miserable and embarrassed at that performance. That said, I wouldn't have anyone other than McCoist managing Rangers. We've had some bad results coupled with bad performances recently but I have every faith that the team will sort this out and Ally will come good. If anyone deserves time and patience to turn this around it's Ally McCoist. If that makes me blinded by the legend, unable to separate it from the man then so be it. I don't care, I will never criticise Ally. Ever. I will say that some people on here have the attention spans of 5 year old's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyfe 19 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 He should be given more games, we're still in the early stages of this season, not enough to judge his ability. I agree though that it's not good enough at the moment, he needs to motivate the players more and show a bit of confidence at home, like having at least one player forward when opposition corners are coming in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Blue_Flash 390 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Ally i believe is the only man who could have got us through these past 6 months, he has been a rock and it is only his absolute die hard love for this club that has held us up, the man forever in my eyes will be a legend, and i thank him for all his sacrifices, he bleeds blue and is a fan deep down like us, this result hurt me, god knows how he feels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Street School 0 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 No brainer4, of course he should, the mans a walking gers legend!he stood up for the club, hes full of passion!"Passion"? Ye want passion? You're on the wrong vibe dude, try some corner in the city corners for passion, if ye can spare a fiver dude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Ally don't do walking away, .....We never can say goodbye..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAhmaT0LI0A Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Street School 0 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 0 away wins this season. Changes have to be made. End of.Yes! Agree! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Street School 0 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Sorry Ally,but it's time to move upstairs and get a football manager in.Agree! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm just back from the game, I'm cold and miserable and embarrassed at that performance. That said, I wouldn't have anyone other than McCoist managing Rangers. We've had some bad results coupled with bad performances recently but I have every faith that the team will sort this out and Ally will come good. If anyone deserves time and patience to turn this around it's Ally McCoist. If that makes me blinded by the legend, unable to separate it from the man then so be it. I don't care, I will never criticise Ally. Ever. I will say that some people on here have the attention spans of 5 year old's.I just returned the favour, you know how much Oscar despised equality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I just returned the favour, you know how much Oscar despised equality. He would've probably been a fan of the Communards though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conesoot 9 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Get real ya numpty... We shouldn't require last minute bull**** from anywhere! Surely?What does my heid in the most is this fcuking belief that we have a devine right to win games. Did you ever play the game? The thing is when lesser teams play the big teams they raise their games. Might not seem like much to you but let me tell you it matters and it can make a difference. Remember Greece winning the European Championships? Remember Wimbledon beating Liverpool in FA Cup final? Organised teams playing to their strengths which is stopping the better team playing.Narrow margins and I guarantee you that every single 3rd division player has been training outwith his teams getting fit as fcuk. Eating better, living better and basically working towards playing Rangers. Not every part time player is shite, or unfit or useless. There will be a million tales and excuses how they didn't make it or how they were binned by a bigger team and have something to prove. If you have enough players pumped up then they will give any one a game. What we need to ask is if our players have the same passion and will to win. Blood and tears mate. Win the battle and the fitbaw will take care of itself. So here endeth the lesson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 What does my heid in the most is this fcuking belief that we have a devine right to win games. Did you ever play the game? The thing is when lesser teams play the big teams they raise their games. Might not seem like much to you but let me tell you it matters and it can make a difference. Remember Greece winning the European Championships? Remember Wimbledon beating Liverpool in FA Cup final? Organised teams playing to their strengths which is stopping the better team playing.Narrow margins and I guarantee you that every single 3rd division player has been training outwith his teams getting fit as fcuk. Eating better, living better and basically working towards playing Rangers. Not every part time player is shite, or unfit or useless. There will be a million tales and excuses how they didn't make it or how they were binned by a bigger team and have something to prove. If you have enough players pumped up then they will give any one a game. What we need to ask is if our players have the same passion and will to win. Blood and tears mate. Win the battle and the fitbaw will take care of itself. So here endeth the lesson. Of course we have a fuckin divine right God is a Bear and we are the people.For he is our God and we are the people of his pasture, the flock under his care Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crespie6 334 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 So can someone explain what they would do better than Ally? Take the players for a pint? Give them a good gee up before the game? A kick up the arse? A cuddle? Some of your witty banter? What the fcuk do you know about football that Ally McCoist and Ian Durrant don't know? I fcuking worry about some people. Try and support the team and management instead of spouting bile. If you canny do that fcuk off to Penn State.not sure if anyone has replied to this, but simply i would do the following:1. Full-time training - morning is stamina/work-outs, afternoon is ball control and tactics2. play players in their position. no more shoe-horning in3. strict instructions that there is NO hoofball. players must make themselves available for the ball. couple of short options, and one long (not a hoof long, an actual long pass)4. sit back and watch us destroy unfitter, less able football players.that would be my appraoch. if players cant run rings round div 3 teams after some full-time workouts, then something is seriously wrong. this is a major advantage we should have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conesoot 9 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Bollocks.Good point well made! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conesoot 9 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Of course we have a fuckin divine right God is a Bear and we are the people.For he is our God and we are the people of his pasture, the flock under his careFair enough. I stand corrected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGIL OSTENSTADf 27 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 IMO super is to pally way the current gers players thats why they give him hehaw in return , We need a bawbooter eg souness or beg sir walter to come back as this is gettin beyond a joke noo, a love ally but things are gettin worse week by week Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The alarm bells are ringing. The stuttering of last season was washed away in the administration debacle. In the glowing spotlight of the lowest tier of Scottish football we are still playing like an amateur side. Ally has weeks not months to get this sorted. But I cant see any evidence of him being able to do that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS 649 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 “It’s not a wake-up call for me it’s just a massive disappointment." That was part of Ally's statement after the game.If that GAME - THAT RESULT - wasn't a 'wake up call' then what is? We were dismal, embarrassing, second to the ball, lethargic, unenthusiastic, lacking creativity, heartless.....I could go on and on.Sadly, that is not the first time this season, in fact if we're being brutally honest, we are woeful. I can't help but wonder about our training regime - where are our tactics? We are negative in the extreme; we CONSISTENTLY play across the back and toward our own goal, even in circumstances where there is no threat. We seem almost afraid to go forward. I am not a football tactician, but the deficiencies in our play are there for all to see.Now, I am unashamedly an Ally mcCoist fan, and I would hate to see him go. Personally, I believe that he should (at the very least) have until the new year, but time and patience is fast running out. I really don't have the answer to this, but how long do you wait before you make a managerial change? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartansmokie 36 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 yes but there has to be a huge improvement. We should be burying teams like QOS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 “It’s not a wake-up call for me it’s just a massive disappointment." That was part of Ally's statement after the game.If that GAME - THAT RESULT - wasn't a 'wake up call' then what is? We were dismal, embarrassing, second to the ball, lethargic, unenthusiastic, lacking creativity, heartless.....I could go on and on.Sadly, that is not the first time this season, in fact if we're being brutally honest, we are woeful. I can't help but wonder about our training regime - where are our tactics? We are negative in the extreme; we CONSISTENTLY play across the back and toward our own goal, even in circumstances where there is no threat. We seem almost afraid to go forward. I am not a football tactician, but the deficiencies in our play are there for all to see.Now, I am unashamedly an Ally mcCoist fan, and I would hate to see him go. Personally, I believe that he should (at the very least) have until the new year, but time and patience is fast running out. I really don't have the answer to this, but how long do you wait before you make a managerial change?I disappeared from here last night with the line "I'll sleep on it" (or some such) as I didn't want to join with the knee-jerk reaction by some I'd clocked on here after the game, which to be fair would be an easy thing to do given the disappointment all of us felt after such an embarrassing result.Well I've slept on it and to be honest, there's nothing in that post of yours I'd change. I agree 100%.I reckon he's got until the New Year (maybe even Christmas?) to turn things around.Others may differ ("but....but....but he's a pure legend!" ) but that's football.....a results-driven business.I think Charles Green and his backers will be having some quite heated conference calls over the next 24-hours.For them the word 'legend' has hee-haw to do with it - it's strictly business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRodgA2k8 542 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The worrying thing for me is the fact that WASN'T the wake up call...it would appears that's already been!Thus meaning nothing has been done to solve the problem! While Ally is a club legend if results and more so performances don't improve quickly he could well find himself out of a job.I don't think Charles Green will stand idly by as he has a duty to ensure we get back to the top asap for his investors. He's had more than enough games as a professional manager, regardless of last seasons circumstances, this squad is also far superior to our oppositions.I'm unsure if its a naivety or a lack of confidence in himself and his squad but in nearly every game this season we've treated our opponents with way too much respect and that's hurting us big time! This may well end in tears if things don't get any better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip 359 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Love Ally McCoist to death. Met him at our local Golfy, hilarious and an absolute gent. However I have some advice for Ally. It's time to stop being Mr. Nice Guy. Double training sessions, players grounded etc. etc. I don't want you to turn into popcorn teeth and blame everybody and anybody when results go against him but I want you to start kicking arses big time. The players should be afraid to put in unacceptible displays if they know they will get the hairdryer treatment. All great managers use this tactic. Look at the best of them all, Sir Alex Ferguson. C'mon super, loose the Mr. Nice Guy till we win trophies. :mccoist: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 yes, for this season atleast.This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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