Not enough training...?

[WATP-FOREVER 5,231]

perhaps they do the extra training - 3:30 till 5 - perhaps they only do extra training every second day - perhaps their 3 hours they do in the morning is Good high quality stuff and extra is not needed - there are many things it could be but it sounds like you are just fking moaning and mumping for the sake of it !

Enjoy your thread.

I hope Ally's readng this thread - could be a lightbulb moment.

[AlBear. 8,499]

I hope Ally's readng this thread - could be a lightbulb moment.

Maybe he should employ RM as Rangers tactical advisor

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

I hope Ally's readng this thread - could be a lightbulb moment.

Ally has probably never thought about training, or what they do in training or extra training or fitness or tactics or nutrition - its all about drinking and playing with your buddies - it was good enough when Ally and Durrant played - it should be good enough now - quicker they are all in the boozer and bonding the better the team will be.Horse Racing anyone ?

[Agoram1 42]

My point exactly. We train far less than the big teams. And the players do far less individual work.

How do u know the training timetable for all the top teams? U don't . U are assuming that they do. As u are a twitter user u will see Rio Ferdinand on twitter around 2 and he always picks his kids up from school.

U may have been to see the training but u don't see wot goes on behind the doors.

[Devlin 222]

Really? World-class players stay behind after every training session and practice more. If the Rangers players had that mentality, surely I would have seen them on one of my trips to Auchenhowie?

Oh, 1 player trains outwith training. Well done, 1 rep for you.

What do you do when you are shit at something that you have to be good at? You practice more to up your game.

Why should it be any different with our players?

You are one of the guys on this board that just wants to be controversial with everything you say, just to get an argument going. I have noticed it since you joined the board. I'm not going to waste my time with you.

How many of our players would you say are world clas? Also i bet they don't stay behind EVERY training session. You're basing all this pish on nothing apart from how often you check your twitter and the few times you've been to the training, it's pitiful mate.

Now you're calling our players shit. Class supporter you are.

You really think me sticking up for our players is controversial? You're a nutter. You clearly don't like the fact that you're opinions aren't shared by everyone.

[El Carpintero 546]

Fleck's parents should have kept him working hard considering Rangers got them a house in Knightswood to "Keep him out of trouble".

I know mate, as i said, parents have a role to play, a huge role.

[El Carpintero 546]

..but the question remains - how do you know none of our lads are doing the same ?

I honestly think we would know about it Peter. We have all sorts of access to players these, social media, interviews, media, press, we know so much about footballers these days. If young Barrie McKay was staying behind for an hour or two with 50-100 balls, smashing free kicks into the net working on his dead ball technique and shooting ability i reckon he and the club would love to tell the fans that. I would be so proud of him and would respect him so much more for it, but when i hear he is off from training not long after 11 to go for a haircut it makes me question his ambition to get better, albeit that is one day but there are other examples. Fans know what time players are in training, the club do not try and hide players nor do i think they recommend or tell players to stay behind, i know if someone like Ian Durrant or Ally McCoist asked me to work on something they thought i was weak in, i would be working every minute possible to make sure they see an improvement in that particular area. We know these players, we watch them week in week out, there has been no marked improvement in any of them, in my mind. When i watched the video of Nakamura at Celtics training ground himself, with the dummy wall set up, loads of balls and his translator in goal, i was sick, sick but envious, almost jealous. I knew we had no one like that, i wish we had though. Can you tell me Peter, are any of our players staying behind? Do you see any marked improvement technically or otherwise from self training in any of our players? We have a group of kids who could be exceptional with the right guidance and attitude.

[AlBear. 8,499]

I honestly think we would know about it Peter. We have all sorts of access to players these, social media, interviews, media, press, we know so much about footballers these days. If young Barrie McKay was staying behind for an hour or two with 50-100 balls, smashing free kicks into the net working on his dead ball technique and shooting ability i reckon he and the club would love to tell the fans that. I would be so proud of him and would respect him so much more for it, but when i hear he is off from training not long after 11 to go for a haircut it makes me question his ambition to get better, albeit that is one day but there are other examples. Fans know what time players are in training, the club do not try and hide players nor do i think they recommend or tell players to stay behind, i know if someone like Ian Durrant or Ally McCoist asked me to work on something they thought i was weak in, i would be working every minute possible to make sure they see an improvement in that particular area. We know these players, we watch them week in week out, there has been no marked improvement in any of them, in my mind. When i watched the video of Nakamura at Celtics training ground himself, with the dummy wall set up, loads of balls and his translator in goal, i was sick, sick but envious, almost jealous. I knew we had no one like that, i wish we had though. Can you tell me Peter, are any of our players staying behind? Do you see any marked improvement technically or otherwise from self training in any of our players? We have a group of kids who could be exceptional with the right guidance and attitude.

I'd lose all respect for him if he turned up with shaggy uncut hair

[El Carpintero 546]

I'd lose all respect for him if he turned up with shaggy uncut hair

Would surely be better than that cyber razor thing he has now, don't you think?

[Reformation Bear 6,453]

I'd like to see Rangers publish what training schedules they operate, why they operate the way they do, and what alternatives they are looking at. We are a Div 3 club with a new team that clearly needs to gel more. And I don't accept simply the passing of time and more games as the gel factor. The team has struggled so far in away games and it is clear that everyone would like to see vastly improved performances. The scary stuff last Saturday when the entire RHS was empty bar Faure was surreal and is stuff that should be ironed out on training pitches. Defending set pieces has been patchy and I think we should be imposing a much bigger threat when we win corners and free kicks in attacking areas. Point is bears have backed the club big time and Ally and the coaching staff can and should do more to explain to us what they are doing on the training pitch to up the quality and effectiveness of our game..

I'd also like to see a freshening of the coaching staff. I'm not calling for anyone to go, just looking for fresh blood to be introduced alongside, and preferably recruited from teams who have a strong track record of developing excellent players. Now that might take a few £s but since we have to wait a very long time for transfer action we could at least be doing the very level best we can to turn the players we have into better players with the rights skills, mentality, strength, and fitness to deal with Divs 3, 2 and 1.

[AlBear. 8,499]

I'd like to see Rangers publish what training schedules they operate, why they operate the way they do, and what alternatives they are looking at.

NO

[Devlin 222]

Bunch of fucking muppets in this thread.

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

I honestly think we would know about it Peter. We have all sorts of access to players these, social media, interviews, media, press, we know so much about footballers these days. If young Barrie McKay was staying behind for an hour or two with 50-100 balls, smashing free kicks into the net working on his dead ball technique and shooting ability i reckon he and the club would love to tell the fans that. I would be so proud of him and would respect him so much more for it, but when i hear he is off from training not long after 11 to go for a haircut it makes me question his ambition to get better, albeit that is one day but there are other examples. Fans know what time players are in training, the club do not try and hide players nor do i think they recommend or tell players to stay behind, i know if someone like Ian Durrant or Ally McCoist asked me to work on something they thought i was weak in, i would be working every minute possible to make sure they see an improvement in that particular area. We know these players, we watch them week in week out, there has been no marked improvement in any of them, in my mind. When i watched the video of Nakamura at Celtics training ground himself, with the dummy wall set up, loads of balls and his translator in goal, i was sick, sick but envious, almost jealous. I knew we had no one like that, i wish we had though. Can you tell me Peter, are any of our players staying behind? Do you see any marked improvement technically or otherwise from self training in any of our players? We have a group of kids who could be exceptional with the right guidance and attitude.

so you support criticism of our training techniques based on not hearing what they do in training?! you could not make it up!

[El Carpintero 546]

so you support criticism of our training techniques based on not hearing what they do in training?! you could not make it up!

No.

[dalton 1,192]

Without being lucky enough to be a rangers player what happens in training and a day to day basis

we have limited knowledge as fans,

But it would be nice to know exactly what does go on.

To have the facilities this club has the players should have no excuses

the performances away from home its hard to remember the last good one ?

The players have to have the ability to start with and all the training in the world

wont alter that but they do need go into games with the right attitude as proffesional footballers and pride

in their own game to go out away from home and put down a performance as a team member

that all the training on the practice ground cant re-produce .

Mancini and his million pounds football team failed in ajax because of attitude

not because of training during the week -

thats my point is the same with us away games the attitude is negative and its down to coisty

in the dressing room to inspire us to go out and attack and destroy teams .

why ?

[eosmhdo 1,879]

What time does our training start?

1.45 pm

[bluechip 359]

There's a point where training too much will become counterproductive. As BP9 says, you have to trust the managers and staff.

I think priviliges should be earned. So, until they start producing consistent results and maximum effort, train them really hard. If it was good enough for Jock Wallace, it should be good enough for Ally. If they win away at Clyde, they can have 15 minutes on Twitter after training at 16.00, lol.

[pipedown27ready 108]

perhaps they do the extra training - 3:30 till 5 - perhaps they only do extra training every second day - perhaps their 3 hours they do in the morning is Good high quality stuff and extra is not needed - there are many things it could be but it sounds like you are just fking moaning and mumping for the sake of it !

Enjoy your thread.

Paying £396 for a season ticket, I have the right to moan if I feel the team isn't playing to a high enough standard. They aren't. So, try harder. Train harder.

[Chef 436]

This thread kinda wrangles me a little, just wait till you get yer shares then you really will feel you have a say in training, no ones backed up anything in here about what's not being done.

[AlBear. 8,499]

Paying £396 for a season ticket, I have the right to moan if I feel the team isn't playing to a high enough standard. They aren't. So, try harder. Train harder.

Suck it up ya big jessie

[pipedown27ready 108]

How many of our players would you say are world clas? Also i bet they don't stay behind EVERY training session. You're basing all this pish on nothing apart from how often you check your twitter and the few times you've been to the training, it's pitiful mate.

Now you're calling our players shit. Class supporter you are.

You really think me sticking up for our players is controversial? You're a nutter. You clearly don't like the fact that you're opinions aren't shared by everyone.

I said if YOU are shit at something that you need or want to be good at, you practice to be better.

I pay for a £396 season ticket, I am titled to moan about the team if I feel they aren't playing well enough.

[pipedown27ready 108]

Bunch of fucking muppets in this thread.

Aye you, leave as you please...

[pipedown27ready 108]

I honestly think we would know about it Peter. We have all sorts of access to players these, social media, interviews, media, press, we know so much about footballers these days. If young Barrie McKay was staying behind for an hour or two with 50-100 balls, smashing free kicks into the net working on his dead ball technique and shooting ability i reckon he and the club would love to tell the fans that. I would be so proud of him and would respect him so much more for it, but when i hear he is off from training not long after 11 to go for a haircut it makes me question his ambition to get better, albeit that is one day but there are other examples. Fans know what time players are in training, the club do not try and hide players nor do i think they recommend or tell players to stay behind, i know if someone like Ian Durrant or Ally McCoist asked me to work on something they thought i was weak in, i would be working every minute possible to make sure they see an improvement in that particular area. We know these players, we watch them week in week out, there has been no marked improvement in any of them, in my mind. When i watched the video of Nakamura at Celtics training ground himself, with the dummy wall set up, loads of balls and his translator in goal, i was sick, sick but envious, almost jealous. I knew we had no one like that, i wish we had though. Can you tell me Peter, are any of our players staying behind? Do you see any marked improvement technically or otherwise from self training in any of our players? We have a group of kids who could be exceptional with the right guidance and attitude.

Spot on, sir!

[pipedown27ready 108]

I'd like to see Rangers publish what training schedules they operate, why they operate the way they do, and what alternatives they are looking at. We are a Div 3 club with a new team that clearly needs to gel more. And I don't accept simply the passing of time and more games as the gel factor. The team has struggled so far in away games and it is clear that everyone would like to see vastly improved performances. The scary stuff last Saturday when the entire RHS was empty bar Faure was surreal and is stuff that should be ironed out on training pitches. Defending set pieces has been patchy and I think we should be imposing a much bigger threat when we win corners and free kicks in attacking areas. Point is bears have backed the club big time and Ally and the coaching staff can and should do more to explain to us what they are doing on the training pitch to up the quality and effectiveness of our game..

I'd also like to see a freshening of the coaching staff. I'm not calling for anyone to go, just looking for fresh blood to be introduced alongside, and preferably recruited from teams who have a strong track record of developing excellent players. Now that might take a few £s but since we have to wait a very long time for transfer action we could at least be doing the very level best we can to turn the players we have into better players with the rights skills, mentality, strength, and fitness to deal with Divs 3, 2 and 1.

Completely agree. We should know more.

[johanhentze 14,293]

I believe that most clubs in Spain, and on the continent in general, have 2 sessions pr day. Its divided into Physical and Technical training. If it can be done there, then why not here? I dont think you can argue, that the Spanish players have, in general, a better technique than most British players. This is no coincidence. You practice, and get better.

If I can remember correctly; PLG tried to introduce this, but there was a disgruntled clique that put a spanner in the works, and we know the rest.

Why do we think that 2 sessions a day is not for us and why do we think we know better? I'd say the evidence is out there to see... it DOES work. Its time we started learning from others!