gersandy 594 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just had an argument with another bluenose about the players who departed. Naismith, Whittaker, McGregor, etc.His argument was, these players were entitled to leave, due to the fact the wage cuts they took that enabled us to complete the season. Although we should be grateful for what they done for the club (some took 75% wage cuts), for me its still a bitter pill to swallow. Especially the way Naismith left, using excuses of rangers being liquidated, new club, bullshit basically. I know we've talked about this on and on, but is there any other bears on here with the same view as this guy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just had an argument with another bluenose about the players who departed. Naismith, Whittaker, McGregor, etc.His argument was, these players were entitled to leave, due to the fact the wage cuts they took that enabled us to complete the season.Although we should be grateful for what they done for the club (some took 75% wage cuts), for me its still a bitter pill to swallow. Especially the way Naismith left, using excuses of rangers being liquidated, new club, bullshit basically.I know we've talked about this on and on, but is there any other bears on here with the same view as this guy?I find it hard to 'hate' anyone especially those who have worn our Jersey and the vitrol they are subjected to makes me cringe, especially as they did reduce wages to help us when needed - I think they could have acted better when they left but to hate them for it, na life is to short. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,469 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Naw...they are and always will be rhats!! The club NEVER DIED...It was the holding company... Its SO FUCKIN SIMPLE...So players that pissed aff did it for petsonal gain..nothing less.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just had an argument with another bluenose about the players who departed. Naismith, Whittaker, McGregor, etc.His argument was, these players were entitled to leave, due to the fact the wage cuts they took that enabled us to complete the season. Although we should be grateful for what they done for the club (some took 75% wage cuts), for me its still a bitter pill to swallow. Especially the way Naismith left, using excuses of rangers being liquidated, new club, bullshit basically. I know we've talked about this on and on, but is there any other bears on here with the same view as this guy?No, shit thread alarm going off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_1974 204 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 No. The club and its fans were entitled to expect some loyalty, beyond the short term pay sacrifice these guys made. Not un-reasonable to expect them to TUPE over and leave for the negotiated fee. Pure greed on their part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddistonKnight 1,572 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Been over this a number of times, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.Hate them? No. Would pish on them if they were on fire? No.all they had to do was transfer over and Mr Green would have sold them for a pittance, which was agreed with each player when they took their wage cut. In some ways, THEY were the ones who pulled a fast one as they had ready made get out of jail cards which they tore up for the veritable Royal Pardon of a free transfer thereby pocketing lots of lolly. Very noble of them in my eyes. Not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosebrad 452 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 This is where I kind of on the fence here. I like the fact they took pay cuts to help the club, I am feck off they screw us over when they did not transfer their contracts over to the new company and we lost millions through sales of these player, but at the same time I am glad they feck off because could we afford to keep them on the books and pay their contract wages. I dont know enough about this so just basing it on what I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubdeck 41 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Are any of the 3 players mentioned out of pocket NOdid the 3 players act with the best interest of our club at heart NOwere they part of a scheme to make it look as if they were looking after the little people at our club, while in fact were making sure that at the end of the day they would be making out of it YES Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Part of the wage reduction deal was that Rangers put stupidly low release clauses into their contracts.These low clauses would enable any player no longer wishing to remain at Rangers a chance to negotiate themselves a really good financial deal with any clubs they decided to move to.The players too the wage reduction then failed to see it through and transfer over, they went for the really good option (for them) and walked away for fuck all and probably got themselves a good million pound each for signing on bonuses.RATS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz92 966 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 This is going on for too long now.A line should be drawn under it. It doesn't even warrant a conversation these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie29 774 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 There's only one Kirk Broadfoot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,204 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Yes, they were all entitled to leave. They could have left like Broadfoot and Edu. They chose to leave another way. I won't waste my energy hating them, but they are persona non grata as far as I'm concerned.It seems to me that they didn't have the guts, nor the confidence in their own value in the transfer market, to risk being put in the shop window at a price. They didn't want to get stuck with us if no club decided to put down hard cash for them. They ran off as fast as they could to the first club that would look twice at them, and called it "looking after my future and my family." Every single player who elected not to transfer their contract over made a decision rooted in weakness and misguided self-preservation, and they deserve absolute and unending coldness from Rangers FC and its loyal fans for as long as they live. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Part of the wage reduction deal was that Rangers put stupidly low release clauses into their contracts.These low clauses would enable any player no longer wishing to remain at Rangers a chance to negotiate themselves a really good financial deal with any clubs they decided to move to.The players too the wage reduction then failed to see it through and transfer over, they went for the really good option (for them) and walked away for fuck all and probably got themselves a good million pound each for signing on bonuses.RATSExactly!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just had an argument with another bluenose about the players who departed. Naismith, Whittaker, McGregor, etc.His argument was, these players were entitled to leave, due to the fact the wage cuts they took that enabled us to complete the season. Although we should be grateful for what they done for the club (some took 75% wage cuts), for me its still a bitter pill to swallow. Especially the way Naismith left, using excuses of rangers being liquidated, new club, bullshit basically. I know we've talked about this on and on, but is there any other bears on here with the same view as this guy?Is your mate called Steven Naismith? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Fester 186 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I find it hard to 'hate' anyone especially those who have worn our Jersey and the vitrol they are subjected to makes me cringe, especially as they did reduce wages to help us when needed - I think they could have acted better when they left but to hate them for it, na life is to short.Dress it up any way you like but it was blatant opportunism every last one is forever in the hall of shame, but I respect others who chose to be good Christians and forgive. I'm atheist Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod 62 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Don't hate any of them. It would be too much to expect them to stay for 3rd division wages BUT the decent thing to do would have been transferring their contracts to the new owners and then demand a transfer. At least the club would have got some sort of fee. They'd likely have gone for a song anyway since I think they got some kind of nominal release amount added to their contract when the took the wage hit.And more than one of them owed us after they were well paid and well looked after during long injury lay offs when the club was getting nothing from them.As I say, don't hate them but neither do I want any of them back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 They where as bad as CW as far as Im concerned.They could have done it different but choose to take bad advice.The dont exist as far as Im concerned.They went through greed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,260 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 They negotiated before accepting the wage reduction to ensure their potential transfer fee was a huge bargain for any prospective buying club.They did not keep their end of the deal by allowing the process to reach the conclusion some of them dug their heels in to be part of their contract. No respect at all for these players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh_capet 341 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 They served our club well and moved on. Good luck to them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just had an argument with another bluenose about the players who departed. Naismith, Whittaker, McGregor, etc.His argument was, these players were entitled to leave, due to the fact the wage cuts they took that enabled us to complete the season.Although we should be grateful for what they done for the club (some took 75% wage cuts), for me its still a bitter pill to swallow. Especially the way Naismith left, using excuses of rangers being liquidated, new club, bullshit basically.I know we've talked about this on and on, but is there any other bears on here with the same view as this guy?They took a cut in wages, out of the goodness of their heart they will tell you, however they also negotiated a win for themselves by stipulating reduced transfer fees. That way they would more than make up the wages lost in signing on fees.They moved without us getting a transfer fee, so they let the club down Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The wage cuts were temporary and had no bearing on the players leaving. If they stayed here we would have had to honour their huge contracts. The idiots chose to listen to shite advice and leave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Well if they never reduced the wages wouldnt likes of Healy and salim been released and the administration team wouldve just kept the sellable assets. Fuck all them Judas wannabes. Can anyone actually tell me why we signed lafferty in the 1st place? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Well if they never reduced the wages wouldnt likes of Healy and salim been released and the administration team wouldve just kept the sellable assets. Fuck all them Judas wannabes. Can anyone actually tell me why we signed lafferty in the 1st place?So Celtic couldn't? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick_Golfer 11 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 They should have transferred over tot he Newco and if they wanted to leave then it would have meant we would have received a fee. It's the least Naismith owed us after us looking after him during his long term injury. He is not welcome back in my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue corn flakes 1,282 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Cunts, greedy selfish cunts. That's all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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