bluesbro1976 162 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 hard men dont win football games. football players do. its idiotic statement like this that holds our an i mean the whole scottish game back. young kids being told to go thru cunts by their dads at the side of the park. they should be more interested in developing ball skills such as control and being comfortable with that thing at ur foot that is gonna make you a lot of money throughouty your life.until we move away from this mentality of hitting hard and humping the ball as hard as we can up the park cos its the rite thing to do in a lot of older fans mind we will never ever ever move on and develop players the way we should. ffs you hear it at ibrox every week ...gety it to fuck. snap him. etc. thats no football. any arse out your local can do that. we have got to improve simple technical skills like being able to play a five yard volleyed pass from a through in. if you can be comfortable on the ball and deal with the othr side of the game then fair doos. but technical skill will always prevail. always. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Yeah, the game has changed since the 70's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Brainwave, lets buy a couple oh rugby players, whit ye aw think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbro1976 162 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 fuck it am away to watch babestation. theres only one hard man for that job haha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Would love to have young Harold Davis playing for us in the 3rd div. right nowWith a young Jimmy Millar leading the ATTACK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Mr Happy?Is that sarcasm or literalism?I'll show you how to work the ignore function if you like. Oh, and who are you anyway? bloody hell GB how many have you got on ignore now ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick1271 532 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 A thread on hardmen and no mention of Kevin muscat .now there was a nutter . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip 359 Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Some of you good people are missing the point I think. I am not slagging of Ally, I love the man. I am not suggesting we have a team full of knuckle draggers either. A balance is required.What I am advocating is that we have an excellent goalie 4 hard men and the rest extremely skillful. Then teams might think twice about booting anything with a Rangers top on and maybe make us a bit more solid at the back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymcg1986 259 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Derek1872 is a hard man we should give him a game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip 359 Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Derek1872 is a hard man we should give him a game Can he play at the back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Can he play at the back? He can play behind you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Huge difference between 'hard' and 'dirty'. Prime example was Tom Forsyth great tackler and hard as nails. Gave away very few fouls.Every team needs a certain element of 'hardness' to be successful. Players can be both hard and skilful, two players who spring to mind are Wilkins and Souness, both pure class.Hurlock and Steele, mentioned earlier, were just crass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymcg1986 259 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Can he play at the back? He loves it at the back...hard and fast Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Huge difference between 'hard' and 'dirty'. Prime example was Tom Forsyth great tackler and hard as nails. Gave away very few fouls.Every team needs a certain element of 'hardness' to be successful. Players can be both hard and skilful, two players who spring to mind are Wilkins and Souness, both pure class.Hurlock and Steele, mentioned earlier, were just crass.A modern day player who I thought did that job well was Kevin Thomson...I think he was very underrated and ultimately unfortunate with injuries but he gave us that dig in the middle of the park and his record against Celtic was superb! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanFerguson2012 123 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I don't think we should go out with the idea of being hard but if the opponents start dishing it out we should be clever about giving it back. Share out the yellows & only do it if they are being OTT like peterhead.Black is not really that hard. Because he crocked Jelavic we probably think he is harder than he is.Also remember that hard is not the only way. My namesake Ian Ferguson had a mouth on him as well & could talk people into getting sent off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip 359 Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 He can play behind you In that case I'm deffo not playing up front, ol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,884 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 We don't need 'hard men'. We have players who have passion and aggression like Jig, Black, Wallace ect. What we need is our footballers to play 'football', the boys we have should be 2 or 3 steps ahead of the lower division players way of thinking on the park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 We don't need 'hard men'. We have players who have passion and aggression like Jig, Black, Wallace ect. What we need is our footballers to play 'football', the boys we have should be 2 or 3 steps ahead of the lower division players way of thinking on the park. you are right mate , they can more than look after themselves that is all that is needed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,074 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Just play football. No need for a hardman. Football has evolved.....well at least outside Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper 117 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 A big cunt in my local is always involved in fights at the weekend, shall I give him a bell? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 IMO signing brute force and size over talent and footballing skill is a trait of the vhermin, not Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 bloody hell GB how many have you got on ignore now ! No it's the other way around with this one.I make a post, and this wee shite comes back with...Shite! I thought I had you on ignore. FFS take a day off, do you ever quit Mr Hhappy.And I don't even know who he is But in answer to your question: 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 9? Christ! Some strange people on RM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 We are a step or 2 (or 3) quicker than the teams in the 3rd division. I think a lot (not all mind) of the bad tackles against us are simply opposing players arriving late as it were. Tends to look worse than what it really is.Just my opinion.. but I'm quite happy the way the team is progressing -- using skilled youth. McLeod, McKay... Black has been on the receiving end though... But he will get his own back.So.. not sure we need hard men at the moment. Not sure that's a way forward in any event Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norgerpd 280 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Gregor Stevens was an animal And never a football player.Fuckin liability! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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