paisleyroad 894 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Not a fuckin quote in sight FFS So Neil is fuming? and he told this to who? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hope we are not going down the road of some other clubs. Loyalty given should get loyalty recieved.While I agree he is on too much money, they should get round the negotiating table and thrash out a deal.Its only 8 months ago we were calling him a legend for staying. Now some folk are saying lets just get rid of him.IMO, and if the story is true, he is not being treated in the manner I expect from Rangers.I don't know what you want us to do here?We have a good goalkeeper who showed great loyalty to stay BUT was paid handsomely to do so....he is in his mid 30's and has no sell on value. The contract he is currently on is unsustainable therefore he has been offered a new contract on reduced terms (If the story is to be believed) now if Neil can get a better deal elsewhere good luck to him but we can't make the same mistakes of the past and at times that will mean being ruthless. Paying over the odds through sentiment or a perceived sense of loyalty is madness. Where does that end? Do we offer Kevin Kyle a new deal because he came to us in the 3rd? If we want to get back to the top some unpopular decisions will have to be made for the good of the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,359 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Not a fuckin quote in sight FFS So Neil is fuming? and he told this to who?Has the sticky hand marks of greedy agents all over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,448 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 If true then we should at least be happy that whoever is dealing with contracts isn't being stupid.We need someone who is willing to make these decisions, even if it is unpopular with some fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
one cutty young 140 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 He certainly didn't look fuming yesterday i met him yesterday and he was joking with my son and we watched him train with the other goalies, he put in a shift and was slagging Durrant for not being able to score past him. Not sure the story is completely true, I do think we need to negotiate wages but do want Neil to stay - still a good goalie and stayed loyal to us no matter about what others say - he stayed when others walked ( we shall not forget) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleyroad 894 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I am convinced Neil will stay and take a significant cut, this story reeks of mischief making. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowingmonkeyhead 62 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I like Alexander and hope he stays but as a club we need to spend money wisely and £10k a week for a keeper with no sell on value in the lower leagues of Scotland dosent make financial sense.If he cant live on £5k a week then he should look to move onHe can leave wth his head held high in my opinnion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1690 793 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I don't know what you want us to do here?We have a good goalkeeper who showed great loyalty to stay BUT was paid handsomely to do so....he is in his mid 30's and has no sell on value. The contract he is currently on is unsustainable therefore he has been offered a new contract on reduced terms (If the story is to be believed) now if Neil can get a better deal elsewhere good luck to him but we can't make the same mistakes of the past and at times that will mean being ruthless. Paying over the odds through sentiment or a perceived sense of loyalty is madness. Where does that end? Do we offer Kevin Kyle a new deal because he came to us in the 3rd? If we want to get back to the top some unpopular decisions will have to be made for the good of the club.I expect us to act with some loyalty.Give him a 2yr deal on reduced terms, not a 50% cut.Plus, if the story is to be believed, why would we want his reduced contract to start immediately instead of at the end of his current deal?There will be a sell on value but not if hes out of contract. 34 is not old for a keeper.So, whats your take on it? Just get rid? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everGers 82 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I think its fair enough as he will be our 2end golie if he stays but wish him well if he leves us as he's done us a good turn Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,630 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Call me crazy, but I don't fucking want a 34-year old keeper, who has already shown signs of his ability falling away, on a two year deal as a high earner.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,871 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Alexander has been a loyal servant, but we have also been incredibly loyal to him by paying him a fortune to sit on a bench for 90% of the season for the past four years.He doesn't owe us anything and we don't owe him any thing either. If they can't agree a new deal then it's good luck Neil and thanks for your service because that's just the way football goes sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,630 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Plus, if the story is to be believed, why would we want his reduced contract to start immediately instead of at the end of his current deal?No idea why this has been singled out. This is fairly common practice in modern football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 73,095 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Spending big money on a keeper with zero resale value and who is on the decline is stuff of the old regime.I thank him and wish him all the best but we have to think of Rangers here, we must not spend for the sake of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 no disrespect to neil here but,fuck loyalty,after what we've been through we need to think smart.what other team is going to offer a 35yo keeper playing in the 3rd division that kind of money.(if the article is to be believed) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I expect us to act with some loyalty.Give him a 2yr deal on reduced terms, not a 50% cut.Plus, if the story is to be believed, why would we want his reduced contract to start immediately instead of at the end of his current deal?There will be a sell on value but not if hes out of contract. 34 is not old for a keeper.So, whats your take on it? Just get rid?It's not a case of just get rid mate. He has been a good servant but he has been rewarded for that over the past 5 years on a very good contract. No club in their right mind would pay a fee for Alexander as a 35/36 year old if we offered him a longer deal, and certainly not on the terms he is on with us.He is a victim of circumstance to a degree but we can't sustain the money he is on at the moment and as we progress improvements will be made in certain areas...we have a potentially top class keeper coming through our youths and I would say bell is a better all round keeper for the immediate future. I would offer him a years contract on the same as black, sheils etc. if he is not happy with that fair enough and if he can get a better deal elsewhere then good luck to him. Look at even the EPL clubs...even top players in their mid 30's aren't getting offered deals because their on to much money for the return you will get...Christ lampard who is still quality isn't getting offered terms by Chelsea. Just the way football has to work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faircity 186 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I don't know what you want us to do here?We have a good goalkeeper who showed great loyalty to stay BUT was paid handsomely to do so....he is in his mid 30's and has no sell on value. The contract he is currently on is unsustainable therefore he has been offered a new contract on reduced terms (If the story is to be believed) now if Neil can get a better deal elsewhere good luck to him but we can't make the same mistakes of the past and at times that will mean being ruthless. Paying over the odds through sentiment or a perceived sense of loyalty is madness. Where does that end? Do we offer Kevin Kyle a new deal because he came to us in the 3rd? If we want to get back to the top some unpopular decisions will have to be made for the good of the club...This is exactly how i see it...thanks for your loyalty Neil and history will show you were one of the few that stayed and helped put us back on our feet, for that you will always be afforded great respect...now if the stories in the papers are to be believed then the club offered you £10 grand a week for another year, a great offer considering we are playing in the 3rd...now appparently hes turned that down because he wanted two years at £10 grand...fair enough it would be crazy for Rangers to pay that when we can get Cammy Bell for less than half of that.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Quite poor from us in all honesty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Quite poor from us in all honesty.football is a business Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamie 4,887 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 He's a good reserve keeper.reliable when called upon, but no way worth 10 or even 5k per week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 football is a businessOffering him a 50% wage cut is taking the piss. Either offer him one similar to what hew currently earns or dont offer him one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Once again folk throwing about figures that they don't and never will know .If hes on anywhere near that money , then thats why he stayed .We should be paying no more than 5k for a keeper ............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Nice wording to be fair, ill wait for something official Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Offering him a 50% wage cut is taking the piss. Either offer him one similar to what hew currently earns or dont offer him one.circumstances have changed,offering him any sort of contract is good of us,let alone that kind of money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Why sentimental towards Neil and not ally with your views Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 If true, and I have my doubts, the club are going about their business the right way.New contract or not Neil won't be in our squad when we're back in the top league, you wouldn't hire a limo to drive you to work when your car can do the same job for less outlay.Would like him to stay but the days of paying silly money for no return are over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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