simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Can't believe some of our fans sometimes. You've got to laugh . What was everyone expecting the third division to be like ? We're hardly going to play like Real Madrid with half a team of youngsters and mid table SPL players. Yeah, not playing like Real Madrid is why people are unhappy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Would you be angry with Charles if he got rid of Ally?No, but it won't make me trust and respect him more either.I'll be disappointed for Ally. I'll be disappointed because I don't think its the right move but I'll still buy my ST and support my club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLACHLAN1 49 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Ok, here goes nothing.Steve MaclarenDesperate for a return to management so would not be deterred by managing a div 2 club.Was a very influential coach at the red scum when they won the treble.Took Middlesbrough to a league cup triumph and then a european final.Won a league title in Holland with an unfashionable club.Has a record for developing youngsters.Will encourage a more progressive style of football.The England job stigma won't haunt him in Scotland (although the brolly and false Dutch accent might).Ok, I'll get my coat.Doesn't have a record for developing youngsters at all.That would be Dave Parnaby at Boro who is one of the most sought after academy directors in the game.Regardless of that I still wouldn't want him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbubba 56 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Can't believe some of our fans sometimes. You've got to laugh . What was everyone expecting the third division to be like ? We're hardly going to play like Real Madrid with half a team of youngsters and mid table SPL players.Who is the half team of youngsters? This myth has to stop. No one and i stress no one is expecting us to play like Real Madrid. Chef agreeing with you just confirms how stupid your post is. Sorry rfcfraserrfc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Who is the half team of youngsters? This myth has to stop. No one and i stress no one is expecting us to play like Real Madrid. Chef agreeing with you just confirms how stupid your post is. Sorry rfcfraserrfc.if all you take from his post is real Madrid I think it speaks volumes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbubba 56 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 if all you take from his post is real Madrid I think it speaks volumesCan you even read? Stop being a complete idiot. There were four different subjects in my reply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 If we were going to replace Ally, then I feel we need to go in a different direction. Somebody with youth development in mind and has a slight background in how to do it.Now I don't think we're going to get a big name experienced Manager, and I don't feel going down the line of a McCall, Butcher, etc is what we need. I'd like us to think a bit outside the box and give it to somebody like Giovanni Van Bronckhorst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Can you even read? Stop being a complete idiot. There were four different subjects in my reply.you disregard his post as a myth and concentrated on his real Madrid comment, yeh I can't read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbert 416 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The man I wanted from the very start was McInnes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The man I wanted from the very start was McInnes Hows he doing at Bristol City? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Terry Butcher or Stuart McCall Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunosecol 8 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Shota Arveladze's done well everywhere he's managed, learnt the trade well in Holland, impressed in his first few jobs and now 6th in a close turkish league. I know they have a money in turkey but Rangers should be able to raise his profile and he knows what the clubs about Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Shota Arveladze's done well everywhere he's managed, learnt the trade well in Holland, impressed in his first few jobs and now 6th in a close turkish league. I know they have a money in turkey but Rangers should be able to raise his profile and he knows what the clubs aboutInteresting tbh but dunno if he'd be better than Ally. Didn't even know arveladze was a manager so can't honestly compare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 If we win the 3rd Div then Ally will remain as manager. It's hard to imagine any manager being incompetent enough as to not being able to win the Scottish 3rd Division with Rangers F.C. I hope the manager is not judged by that alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Half a team of youngsters?Do you even know anything about our club?Of the 13 players who featured yesterday only McKay(sub) Hegarty and Naismith are 'youngsters' i.e 21 and younger. The average age was 26 yesterday, hardly young.This myth needs to stop with our fans, we are not filled with youngsters at all. Only MacLeod, Hegarty McKay have featured regularly(10 or more starts all season) that are young players.Out of our squad of 28 players who have featured this season,fifteen are 21 or younger. We have an average age of 24. Alexander, Cribari and Jig are the reason its not a lot lower.We rely on the goals of a 23 year old (Andy Little) and the most assists come from 18 year old Barrie Mckay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Out of our squad of 28 players who have featured this season,fifteen are 21 or younger.We have an average age of 24. Alexander, Cribari and Jig are the reason its not a lot lower.We rely on the goals of a 23 year old (Andy Little) and the most assists come from 18 year old Barrie Mckay.Lets not also forget that of these players a good number haven't had that much first team football. Little and Perry, despite being two of the older players in the squad have only made a combined total of 105 first team appearances across 4 different clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The majority werent under Smith or McLeish whats different now?When was the last time we were consistently succesful from set pieces? 10/12 years ago? Whats different now?The last time I remember Rangers being deadly from set pieces, was when van bronckorst played for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The last time I remember Rangers being deadly from set pieces, was when van bronckorst played for us.Thats about the same time I remember. We've been pish at set pieces under 6 managers yet NOW its a big problem? I really think some people just moan about any old shite and hope someone agrees with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Thats about the same time I remember. We've been pish at set pieces under 6 managers yet NOW its a big problem? I really think some people just moan about any old shite and hope someone agrees with them.If I am honest. I am less worried about our set pieces than I am about our ability to defend other teams set pieces.But you are right, set pieces have been pretty poor at Rangers for years now. Lets hope that Ally takes some good ideas from watching Man Utd train ( sure I read somewhere today that this might happen soon?). I'd love to see out corners improve, they are woeful to watch sometimes.Id make it a rule that if someone in the game takes 2 corners in a row that don't get past the first defender, should no longer be allowed to take the corners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbubba 56 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Ah well, we have always been shite at free kicks so lets just ignore that part of the game, it isn't a problem that almost every other team in the world have at least one dead ball specialist. God, we see players from League 1 and League 2, even the SPL, smashing free kicks in every week on Sky. Set pieces are such a huge part of the game these days, the fact that we have to go so far back to remember when we could properly execute a dead ball says so much about our managers at the time and the calibre of player we have had in our first team. It has simply not been good enough and it is no excuse to say we have haven't had one for x amount of years. It needs sorted and quick. Our free kicks and corners are embarrassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Ah well, we have always been shite at free kicks so lets just ignore that part of the game, it isn't a problem that almost every other team in the world have at least one dead ball specialist. God, we see players from League 1 and League 2 smashing free kicks in every week on Sky. Set pieces are such a huge part of the game these days, the fact that we have to go so far back to remember when we could properly execute a dead ball says so much about our managers at the time and the calibre of player we have had in our first team. It has simply not been good enough and it is no excuse to say we have haven't had one for x amount of years. It needs sorted and quick. Our free kicks and corners are embarrassing.I like how Bubba picks up one part of the reply and rambles nonsense which is in no way relevant to either myself or gogzys post.Congratulations Bubba. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The horns of a dilemma...Sack Ally McCoist and do things instantly improve? Who would take the job and if they did what would be their motivation- money and status or a desire to get Rangers back to the Top? We could spend a lot of money and end up in a similar situation.Don't make any changes, keep Ally McCoist, and the standards on the pitch do not improve. What then? A decrease in support. A struggle to attract young supporters to our games. The impact on revenues could be highly damaging.We are in a difficult place right now. I am for the moment not convinced that sacking Ally McCoist is the answer. That is my opinion not as an Ally McCoist apologist but as a supporter of the Club. I can see the counter arguments however, indeed at times they almost persuade me to reach a different conclusion. It is difficult being a Rangers supporter at the moment, a combination of factors such as tearing competing loyalties and the expectations we have had in the past make the current situation really challenging.So for now what this supporter would like to see (rightly or wrongly) is Ally McCoist to not be drawn into or distracted by non footballing matters and get a grip of this current squad- for better or for worse this is our current squad and that fact is not going to change instantly. Charles Green to be a little less straight talking with the media and focus on the commercial activities- which is his forte. I would also like to see a real desire, backed by commitment and action to develop a really excellent Youth Academy with a clear strategy for developing home grown youngsters into the footballing greats of the future.If Ally McCoist does end up having to relinquish the Managers post, then I hope it is done directly with compassion and dignity. I also hope very much that if that does come to pass that there is root and branch review of the whole coaching staff set up, and that we do not go for Rangers old boys- unless they are truly the best choices for the role. I do not like the idea of Ally McCoist being kicked upstairs if he does end up going. That is meant as no disrespect for Ally McCoist, but I fear it is that old boys culture that has caused problems in the past.For now I am still grateful that we as a Club are alive, playing football, at Ibrox. 12 months ago there was a point when I was not sure we would survive. That we are currently playing football and leading our current division is very much down to two men- Charles Green and Ally McCoist for that I am sincerely grateful and therefore inclined to be patient and indeed loyal.This is a very good post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Ah well, we have always been shite at free kicks so lets just ignore that part of the game, it isn't a problem that almost every other team in the world have at least one dead ball specialist. God, we see players from League 1 and League 2, even the SPL, smashing free kicks in every week on Sky. Set pieces are such a huge part of the game these days, the fact that we have to go so far back to remember when we could properly execute a dead ball says so much about our managers at the time and the calibre of player we have had in our first team. It has simply not been good enough and it is no excuse to say we have haven't had one for x amount of years. It needs sorted and quick. Our free kicks and corners are embarrassing.Aye that guy that won the world cup that played for us was pretty shite. and the dutch guy that won a European Cup and a few league titles in Spain and Holland (and his twin) they were fucking terrible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Ah well, we have always been shite at free kicks so lets just ignore that part of the game, it isn't a problem that almost every other team in the world have at least one dead ball specialist. God, we see players from League 1 and League 2, even the SPL, smashing free kicks in every week on Sky. Set pieces are such a huge part of the game these days, the fact that we have to go so far back to remember when we could properly execute a dead ball says so much about our managers at the time and the calibre of player we have had in our first team. It has simply not been good enough and it is no excuse to say we have haven't had one for x amount of years. It needs sorted and quick. Our free kicks and corners are embarrassing.tell us, what does it say about all our previous managers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Ah well, we have always been shite at free kicks so lets just ignore that part of the game, it isn't a problem that almost every other team in the world have at least one dead ball specialist. God, we see players from League 1 and League 2, even the SPL, smashing free kicks in every week on Sky. Set pieces are such a huge part of the game these days, the fact that we have to go so far back to remember when we could properly execute a dead ball says so much about our managers at the time and the calibre of player we have had in our first team. It has simply not been good enough and it is no excuse to say we have haven't had one for x amount of years. It needs sorted and quick. Our free kicks and corners are embarrassing.If a 16 year old youth player can't get a corner into the box then it says even more about the man who signed him to a pro contract nevermind the first team manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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