Spectre 1,663 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 How is it self evidentI tend to think he lacks something, its obviously not ability so. what is it ?He has went right off the boil at Everton and Croatia and I seem to remember the same thing happening with us.I'm just not sure you understand what moral fibre means; it's about doing the right thing morally. What on earth has that got to do with not playing very well for Everton, Croatia or arguably, although i disagree, Rangers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,684 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I think he has a tendancy to shall we say " put the tools away " which when you are being handsomely paid I feel is morally wrong.Is that clear enough for you ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,442 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Aye, I remember the outpouring of joy when he was sold, everyone hated him because of how rubbish we all thought he was. How long is not long? I for one was infuriated at his return of 9 goals in his first 15 matches of the season... couldn't move on here for threads about how pish he was.There was threads telling him to go after 1 of his performances tbf and people getting fed up with his half arsed attitude. When he was here I said he wasn't a £4m striker and that we wouldn't make a profit on him. Ok so I was wrong but at least it shows I haven't just changed opinion because he left.He is a good player on his day but has a shite attitude when things aren't going well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,001 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Nobody remember the £15m-£20m price tags? We've all been guilty of over-rating our players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 We've all been guilty of over-rating our players.Those sort of prices are in the realms of hysteria. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,001 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Those sort of prices are in the realms of hysteria. If Craig Gordon is worth £9m then McGregor..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 If Craig Gordon is worth £9m then McGregor..... In one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I thought Jelavic would have ended up at Man United when Moyes moved if he kept up the good work but sadly he's kind of flopped this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre 1,663 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I think he has a tendancy to shall we say " put the tools away " which when you are being handsomely paid I feel is morally wrong.Is that clear enough for you ?Might have been if you'd quoted me to draw it to my attention. So you think he's lazy basically, "he lacks moral fibre" is a cryptic way of saying that. I always thought he tried hard for us, even in games where he didn't manage to get a goal.It's easy now for people to say they always thought he was pish but it was rarely heard at the time he played for us and I genuinely don't recall one person on here posting that they were glad he was gone when he was sold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Because he kept scoring goals it papered over the cracks in some very poor performances in his second season with us. It's been very similar with Everton, instant impact, then a huge dip in form. It'll be interesting to see how he plays next Season. A lower EPL side could do worse to ask to loan him out. But a new manager might give him that boost. I do think that he has played at his highest level though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouseblue 145 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 A lot of rumours that very early in the season his people (family apparently ) were pushing for bigger wages based primarily on his explosive form when he signed , whether the two factors are related is I'd assume up for speculation. I honestly don't think you could appreciate how poor he's been , especially recently , without watching him live . From his touch , to movement , shooting just general control it's clearly all over the show. Now whether a new manager coming him might give him the boost he needs is again up for debate but I believe west ham , who were I'm sure you'll remember were interested when he moved to goodison , are also closely monitoring the situation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,079 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Aye, I remember the outpouring of joy when he was sold, everyone hated him because of how rubbish we all thought he was. How long is not long? I for one was infuriated at his return of 9 goals in his first 15 matches of the season... couldn't move on here for threads about how pish he was.There was no joy, as I recall, but a definite sense that he had been far from his best in the weeks leading up to his sale. We knew, as we know now, that he is a talented player with a tendency to blow hot and cold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,353 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Always said he was over rated and its proving the same down there .I find that very hard to believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scousefc 14 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 A lot of rumours that very early in the season his people (family apparently ) were pushing for bigger wages based primarily on his explosive form when he signed , whether the two factors are related is I'd assume up for speculation. I honestly don't think you could appreciate how poor he's been , especially recently , without watching him live . From his touch , to movement , shooting just general control it's clearly all over the show. Now whether a new manager coming him might give him the boost he needs is again up for debate but I believe west ham , who were I'm sure you'll remember were interested when he moved to goodison , are also closely monitoring the situation.Couldn't"t agree more. He"s never off the floor and never stops moaning. Terrible player at the moment. Should we persevere with him? I wouldn't but we can't afford anyone else. As for Mr Naismith.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 He's a genuine £5m-£7m player playing in the Premiership.I thought he was a bargain to begin with but just about found his level there. Was a level above anything in Scotland at the time though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I find that very hard to believe.Trying to find anything to believe in one of his posts is always a losing battle, mate . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,582 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Never liked him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Never liked him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 All the Everton fans I know say Moyes has a tendancy to ruin strikers.Hopefully Rooney stays at Utd then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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