docspiderman 1,228 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I think some of the current shareholders have yet to take their profit. Others have already left e.g. green.No guarantees with King, but I think we have a better chance of openness with him - and some cash.With his history of openness and transparency? I think not! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Least he actually stood up for the club while others just fight over trying to own us on the cheap.The thing is STB, Gogzy et al. You're all shouting from the rooftops but you're in the clear minority.The poll on here is currently two thirds one third in favour of King and I ( for one ) have yet to met a bear on the street who supports this current regime let alone the spivs in the past. BROOMIERD, Jonok and A.T.G 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 768 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The thought of going through this all again fills me with dread, but so does the lack of funding and the state of the infrastructure. Would be happier with the 120 day plan route if it included no debt and investors not making cash on loans to fund any plans.The board should have been well aware of the fans feelings and done everything in its power to stay away from debt and shown through their actions I could relax.Unfortunately they tell me to wait and trust while they do the exactly the thing i didn't want or trust. Make investors money through loans.Not a very clever plan. Gerwelly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I will be buying my season ticket no matter what. RFC WATP GBOQ BJKMe too and the money will be going to the club - not some 3rd party fund organised by a billionaire and run by fuck knows who Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 No club can agree to point numer 2. So this is just crap being spouted. He is at it and to be honest; I do not want him near my club if this is the way he is thinking.1. Will the board provide legally binding assurances that the club is a going concern and has sufficient funds and/or facilities in place for the 2014/2015 season.2. Will the board undertake that none of the proceeds from season ticket sales will be used to settle any financial obligation that arose prior to receipt of the season ticket monies by the club.3. Will the board confirm that the club assets continue to be unencumbered.4. Will the board explain its previous statements that the club had sufficient cash resources to last until the end of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Really . Do you want these charlatans taking more money out of rangers?enlighten me.which charlatans are at the club right now and how much money have they taken OUT of Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The thought of going through this all again fills me with dread, but so does the lack of funding and the state of the infrastructure. Would be happier with the 120 day plan route if it included no debt and investors not making cash on loans to fund any plans.The board should have been well aware of the fans feelings and done everything in its power to stay away from debt and shown through their actions I could relax.Unfortunately they tell me to wait and trust while they do the exactly the thing i didn't want or trust. Make investors money through loans.Not a very clever plan.At least we're not in any debt to any flea infested bank, King and others should have just waited until Wallace had his chance to do his review and then see where we go from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Really . Do you want these charlatans taking more money out of rangers?How long has this board been in place? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The thought of going through this all again fills me with dread, but so does the lack of funding and the state of the infrastructure. Would be happier with the 120 day plan route if it included no debt and investors not making cash on loans to fund any plans.The board should have been well aware of the fans feelings and done everything in its power to stay away from debt and shown through their actions I could relax.Unfortunately they tell me to wait and trust while they do the exactly the thing i didn't want or trust. Make investors money through loans.Not a very clever plan.Your man Dave King has talked before about how we need to be in debt to compete.Would you rather we'd sold Wallace than agree this deal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Whyte, green, ahmed, mather and christ knows what else is round the corner.they aint here anymore. get over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 768 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I've not been happy with his media statements lately but I think going down the route of trying to disrupt season ticket sales is an especially massive mistakeagree with that. Would also add I don't trust the actions they have taken. Can I trust them ? not until I see them work with only the clubs interest at heart.Would I like to see them get round the table with DK? Yes.Would I be happier with someone with DK money there as well? YesDoesn't seem that hard to get the majority of fans on board so nobody to blame but their own short sightedness. They can complain and speak all they want, but actions only count. The rest is just a headache I could do without. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 How long has this board been in place?Only since November apart from the Easdales, and even they weren't part of Green's original boardroom.These facts get conveniently forgotten though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 768 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 At least we're not in any debt to any flea infested bank, King and others should have just waited until Wallace had his chance to do his review and then see where we go from there.debt to a hedge fund ain't any better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 agree with that. Would also add I don't trust the actions they have taken. Can I trust them ? not until I see them work with only the clubs interest at heart.Would I like to see them get round the table with DK? Yes.Would I be happier with someone with DK money there as well? YesDoesn't seem that hard to get the majority of fans on board so nobody to blame but their own short sightedness. They can complain and speak all they want, but actions only count. The rest is just a headache I could do without.I've always said i'd welcome Dave King, really doubt I would now after this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris1984 1,271 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Fuck sake Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris1984 1,271 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Let him invest!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The thing is STB, Gogzy et al. You're all shouting from the rooftops but you're in the clear minority.The poll on here is currently two thirds one third in favour of King and I ( for one ) have yet to met a bear on the street who supports this current regime let alone the spivs in the past.Many people are brainwashed sheep tbh mate. Wallace had near universal approval, now people will be turning against him and he's barely half way through his 120 days. Carsons Dog 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 At least we're not in any debt to any flea infested bank, King and others should have just waited until Wallace had his chance to do his review and then see where we go from there.King and others couldn't wait as they could see we were starting to warm to Wallace and that just won't do, we need to be in constant fear for his power play to work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Whether folk like it or not, the majority will go with King. Administration 2 is on its way one way or another.It really isn't though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 So was I, and I can sort of agree about us needing a boost for a top flight challenge albeit we need to be prudent rather than constantly tossing money at it as before.Do you think his season ticket comments were really needed though? Probably not tbh. It's very, very risky. It could work out well, but the risks associated with a suggestion like that seem to me too big. If it doesn't go well, it could be very bad (I stand to be corrected, I'm as far from an expert as you can get!) As I said elsewhere, history will judge him. It could turn out he's played it brilliantly, it could turn out he's fucked it up. I'm starting to find it all a bit scary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Rangers are suffering from hedge fund cancer and it needs cut out, 100% behind Dave King.these hedge fund guys are going nowhere unless they are bought out it amazes me that people point blank refuse to accept this 9forme 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bheast Skelper 411 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 King is just another Rebel. Ah well. Another "Rangers man" who could have bought the club with his pocket change slips away.Withholding season ticket cash from the club at the present time is something i'd expect from a taig.Absolutely disgusting that King has advocated this action.Time for GW and the board to go get some real investment. Rfc#1. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,560 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Don't think the current owners paid that much for a club like Rangers.What about the regular shareholders that paid top dollar, are they supposed to just bend over and let king fuck them over Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWAC 2,245 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 This forum is completely mental, I know there's many on here who have balanced views but people calling Dave King scum etc seems to me to be people who don't have the interests of the club at heart.Every point he raises is a valid one.He's not saying don't buy season tickets, just don't provide another loan facility to unnamed shareholders till we truly know what their intentions are and how they intend to squander, or not, that money. A.T.G 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_RFC 41 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I've made the point about how badly withholding season ticket money will hurt the club, do you even dispute that? Any name calling is out of frustration that any Rangers fan could want that.Taig, scum and want to hurt the club?You really expect any right-minded Rangers fan to engage in any sort of debate with this type of mindset? I repeat, I will not discuss this with you. Despite your quite disgusting attitude do you see me retaliating with name calling? No. Frustration that someone disagrees with you results in them being a taig? Quite disturbing.And if you even bothered to read my original post that resulted in you calling me taig scum, you'd realise I was holding no one to ransom. My season ticket money will be conditional, based on the current boards actions and transparency from this point onwards. As a Rangers fan, after everything we've been through as a club I feel this is more than acceptable. Dave King is a man i trust that has Rangers best interests at heart. If you don't, carry on. Calling someone a taig for not agreeing with you will only switch users off from this site. The fact you're even still posting without being banned yet is unfortunately a damning indictment of where Rangersmedia is as a forum now and sadly why so many good Rangers fans have been driven away from here over the years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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