Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'd chose the Ally stays optionThat's not an option Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Advertise the job and choose the best young modern minded coach that applies.The difficulty is in who does the choosing. Somebody from out with the Club preferably.The applicants CV's should be closely examined to determine their football philosophies.Someone who gives youth a chance and doesn't sign stop gap older players past their best. The list would be lengthy, but the correct choice must be made with no cock up's allowed.A three year contract, cast in concrete for the crown prince and stick with him no matter what.Just for starters like.So this no cocks up allowed ( and ignoring the gay threads) - how does that work - do you want a manager who has never dropped a point, or is the manager to be sacked if they drop a point - if we lose a goal ( like the cock up of a third goal on sat) is the managers sacked ? How does one monitor this no cock ups allowed concept? Does the new manager require universal approval so we all take responsibility if it goes wrong? This 3 year deal how does that work if we,say, lose 3 games in a season ? Do we not sack the manager, like you advocate now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIE8CH 296 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 none of the above Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 So this no cocks up allowed ( and ignoring the gay threads) - how does that work - do you want a manager who has never dropped a point, or is the manager to be sacked if they drop a point - if we lose a goal ( like the cock up of a third goal on sat) is the managers sacked ? How does one monitor this no cock ups allowed concept? Does the new manager require universal approval so we all take responsibility if it goes wrong?This 3 year deal how does that work if we,say, lose 3 games in a season ? Do we not sack the manager, like you advocate now?You are continually missing the point of posts like the one you are critcising. There was no mention of points dropped or matches lost. Its about a progressive football philosophy and the tactical knowledge to play to the squads strengths and make changes during the game that negate anything the opposition try.Last Sunday, Raith came in with a single game plan that worked because our manager had no clue about how to change the system he set out with. It was obvious to many what was needed but the manager seemed unable or unwilling to make the simplest of changes to his game plan. Yesterday we had the substitution of Fraser Aird, who came on? Nicky Clark, did the formation change to accommodate a third central attacking player? These are the decisions that have stacked up against Ally through the season. That you cannot see this (or wilfully ignore it) highlights the paucity of your argument. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,779 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Would also look at harry redknapp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Atkinson for me if not BD.He is a good motivator coach IMO.The rest are average at best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveKingLoyal 124 Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'd chose the Ally stays optionFair play BP at least you're consistent mate in your backing for him but i fear now you're in a small minority.And i like the ideas put forward about ClarkeI only took the first eight in the betting when I made the poll.Of course we should advertise - we can live in hope, I just wanted to stimulate some discussion on what future direction we should be going in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Would also look at harry redknapp.Now he WOULD bankrupt us. Bournemouth, West Ham, Portsmouth all hit the financial skids after his lunacy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Now he WOULD bankrupt us. Bournemouth, West Ham, Portsmouth all hit the financial skids after his lunacy.He could always bring his dug along! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 You are continually missing the point of posts like the one you are critcising. There was no mention of points dropped or matches lost. Its about a progressive football philosophy and the tactical knowledge to play to the squads strengths and make changes during the game that negate anything the opposition try.Last Sunday, Raith came in with a single game plan that worked because our manager had no clue about how to change the system he set out with. It was obvious to many what was needed but the manager seemed unable or unwilling to make the simplest of changes to his game plan. Yesterday we had the substitution of Fraser Aird, who came on? Nicky Clark, did the formation change to accommodate a third central attacking player? These are the decisions that have stacked up against Ally through the season. That you cannot see this (or wilfully ignore it) highlights the paucity of your argument... And yet this ( allegedly ) tactically inept manager won two leagues, got us to a cup final and the Scottish cup final - despite some of the most turbulent times this club faced and losing only 3 games this season - oh and has built a squad Most ( even his detractors) say is good enough to do well in the top league - seems as our manager on this journey back no bumps are allowed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Scottish cup final? When? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveKingLoyal 124 Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Honestly? Given - he had a great start to his rangers career, but i put that down to the new manager syndrome which usually perks players up. the team steadily declined under him. I mean, listening to interviews you'd be hard pushed to take offense if someone who didn't know he was scottish perhaps thought english wasn't his first language.To be fair the players had sold the jerseys under Dick, he didnt inherit a half bad team. I do think however he is underrated, but we did have some horrendous results under him e.g. 10 matches no win, two years without an OF win etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveKingLoyal 124 Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Now he WOULD bankrupt us. Bournemouth, West Ham, Portsmouth all hit the financial skids after his lunacy.He wont be leaving QPR to come to us anyway allegedly on a hefty whack down there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 He wont be leaving QPR to come to us anyway allegedly on a hefty whack down there.Always looks after himself does that toe rag Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveKingLoyal 124 Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 .. And yet this ( allegedly ) tactically inept manager won two leagues, got us to a cup final and the Scottish cup final - despite some of the most turbulent times this club faced and losing only 3 games this season - oh and has built a squad Most ( even his detractors) say is good enough to do well in the top league - seems as our manager on this journey back no bumps are allowed.He has the second highest wage bill in scotland.He lost yesterday to a team of kids and free transfers, He may only have lost 3 games all season, but against part time teams. Le guen was hunted for far less than Alistair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB72 1,531 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'm sure we would attract better managers than you think judging from this list anyway. People would be queuing up to take over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,779 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Clough also plenty of decent manager out there we could ask.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollins 5 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 What about Jurgen Klopp? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,299 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Atkinson for me if not BD.He is a good motivator coach IMO.The rest are average at best.Who? Ron?Darkie Johnson won't like that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveKingLoyal 124 Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Who? Ron?Darkie Johnson won't like that!Yeah. maybe he means adkinsCan't see big ron getting off his sunbed at his age Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespierre 589 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Now that I think about it, Eddie How of Bournemouth is the kind of manager we're screaming out for.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_HoweI think he'd be worth the risk, and he can't be any worse than Ally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,779 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Glen hoddle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 .. And yet this ( allegedly ) tactically inept manager won two leagues, got us to a cup final and the Scottish cup final - despite some of the most turbulent times this club faced and losing only 3 games this season - oh and has built a squad Most ( even his detractors) say is good enough to do well in the top league - seems as our manager on this journey back no bumps are allowed.Whoosh! That he has done what you say is despite his tactical naivety (still waiting for your explanation of his inability to change tactics in the cup final we LOST) and playing against squads at a much lower technical level than he has charge of. The squad has potential but most, if not all, have regressed under the tutelage of Ally and his coaching team.You have again completely missed the point but I expect that from you now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 None of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,299 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Yeah. maybe he means adkinsCan't see big ron getting off his sunbed at his age Nor me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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