Bothwellbear 1,392 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 DJ: Rangers investment can't come at price of historic Ibrox identity THERE has been more talk in the last few days about a possible deal that would see Ibrox renamed if Mike Ashley was to increase his stake in Rangers by underwriting the £4million share issue.Derek Johnstone Football columnistFriday 22/08/20140 CommentsSharePrintIbrox being renamed would get the thumbs down from legend Derek JohnstoneIt is not something that I am in favour of and I hope we never see the Ibrox name lost.As far as I am concerned, Ibrox will always be Ibrox.There are a lot of clubs down south that play in branded stadia. Arsenal get a lot of money for having their ground called The Emirates, but that is different to what could happen at Rangers if the Ashley deal does indeed go through.That, like the Reebok Stadium or the Walkers Stadium, was a new ground. I can understand when sponsors name stadia when they are newly built. But we are talking about an institution here and for over 100 years Rangers' home has been Ibrox.I would hate to see that change. Newcastle fans didn't like it when Ashley renamed St James' Park and put his company logos all over the place. I will always know it as St James' Park, as will the Newcastle fans, and it should have been kept like that.I wouldn't like to see Ibrox change, and certainly not for £4m.The deal Ashley signed to sell Rangers shirts wasn't the greatest deal ever for the club. It was great for Charles Green and Mike Ashley, but not for Rangers. He is making money out of the club as it is. And I would hate for us to see the Ibrox name lost just for a few quid. It's not on.Ibrox is synonymous with Rangers, and Rangers with Ibrox. I think the club would lose a bit of credibility if the stadium was renamed.It wouldn't sound right and it is not what Rangers Football Club should be about.If you look at some of the great Rangers men that have been in that boardroom, they were quality men and always wanted the best for their club. They would be spinning in their grave if the name of Ibrox was to be changed.I know money talks but I hope this doesn't go through. Everyone knows it as Ibrox and it should be kept that way.Nothing has been confirmed yet by Rangers, although there has been a lot of talk about this possible deal.We know that Gers are looking to bring in £4m worth of investment and need all of the shares available to be bought.Whether Ashley wants to do that himself, I don't know. We are all aware that the money will run out at some stage and more investment is needed.I don't see there being a lot of people willing to put money into Rangers just now.I don't know a lot about Mike Ashley, there are so many stories about what he has done at Newcastle and that, if he could, he would sell them and invest in Rangers. Nobody knows what is in his thoughts.What we do know is that if Rangers are putting up these shares to be sold, they are needing them all to be sold.Whether it is Mike Ashley who buys them or a number of different investors, the board need that money to come in.We would need to know a lot more about what Ashley wants to do, if he does indeed buy more shares.What are his plans? What does he want to achieve with Rangers? We don't know right now unfortunately.As soon as Rangers and shares are mentioned, different names come up about who is going to buy them.Until we hear from Mike Ashley, or the club, fans are again left in the dark.As I have said for a while, where is Dave King? Will we see him come in and underwrite this share issue?I would hope that, behind the scenes, Dave is making progress. We haven't heard from him for a few months. The fans are hoping that things are going ahead and he is keeping quiet for a reason.He threw the grenade in about not buying season tickets and now, it seems, he is off the radar.Fans are asking where he is and what he is doing. Nobody knows what is going on behind the scenes but, what we do know, is that these shares are up for grabs and someone will need to buy them to get money into the club.On the field, Ally McCoist and his players will continue their bid for a place in the Premiership against Dumbarton tomorrow.This is a huge season for the club on and off the field and while boardroom goings-on won't affect the players, or at least they shouldn't, they need to be in a far more stable place sooner rather than later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Unless Dave kings behind it..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 What a pile of pish that article is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Another one full of talk about "we must ask"Yet no questions for the lying King.King is the only reason DJ doesn't want the club getting any investment.Ibrox will never lose the name Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlaneloyal 353 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Whatever it gets called it will always be Ibrox Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 What a load of pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 31,000 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Can I be the third person to say pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,965 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 It is Ibrox and always will be.Now take the cash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Nothing wrong at all with his article. Its good to have sentiment but I feel that rebranding it for 2/3 years is OK. Then after its up we either don't sponsor the stadium anymore or we look for bigger and better deals Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,044 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Dj is a fucking balloon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,366 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Right, so we need money to get by but the UoF put a stranglehold on ST and merchandise sales.Now, according to DJ we have to question MA motives before we want him to invest more.MA may want to pay to sponsor Ibrox but DJ not happy with that either.Too many happy to moan and put up barriers / problems, too few provide alternative solutions.Sell the likes of Lewis and Lee Wallace; make staff redundant; close auchenhowie; secure a loan against Ibrox???Or do we still protest whilst fawning for the return of Lord Lucan King?More Pish from DJ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,748 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Seems that he would rather we faced admin 2 than rename Ibrox.Writing the idea off without knowing the details is foolhardy.Stubborn and stupid man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If some 'fans' won't buy season tickets and the club has to replace that revenue then nothing is sacred - survival of the club comes first - to fans it will always be Ibrox but if the club gets cash in some sort of branding deal then while that is unsavoury it is far better than the alternative! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy 73 31 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Sick of reading Dj now, guy was a great player fir us but was never a supporter, that gets lost on some folk here, he gets paid to talk pish now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,366 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Always a bad start to the weekend when I agree with a BP9 post #14. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,224 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Pish, he doesn't know MA, doesn't know what Ma's thoughts are, etc etcSort of another way of saying, "I can't put my finger on it". Now where have I heard that before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsox1 1,361 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If some 'fans' won't buy season tickets and the club has to replace that revenue then nothing is sacred - survival of the club comes first - to fans it will always be Ibrox but if the club gets cash in some sort of branding deal then while that is unsavoury it is far better than the alternative!I can`t believe I`m agreeing with BP9 ! but totally spot on with that statement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsox1 1,361 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Seems that he would rather we faced admin 2 than rename Ibrox.Writing the idea off without knowing the details is foolhardy.Stubborn and stupid man.there are quite a few stupid people who would rather we faced admin 2 without knowing any plans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Obviously a lot of Bears are against it ,even though it'll always be "Going to Ibrox for the game" , although saying that ,can Ashley or any investor not just put the investment into the naming rights of Auchenhowie Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,366 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Broombrox.They do it for the profile, for the TV exposure etc,Over the season their brand will be seen thousands of times on TV at Ibrox, very rarely if at Auchehowie.That's why it's the only option when talking about £millions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,872 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 DJ Guys a fool Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fools Gold 488 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 And Dave Kings' solutions are...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingInTheNorth 27 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 another case of traditionalism holding us back going forward. take the money. it'll always be ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Sponsor prepared to pay to alter the 'name' of the stadium for a few seasons. No structural changes and it will still be Ibrox to the fans. Long as the money is used wisely then where's the harm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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