johan cruyff 1 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 It's not Ally's job to do that.Someone above Ally should be sorting this out. how is it not ally's job . He is the manager of rangers it is his job, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 2,122 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 It seems to me that the powers that be have absolutely no interest in the standard of football, the structure of the club, the quality of coach, from youth up to first team. It's like the board are just letting the coaches get on with whatever they want with absolutely no consequence, poor results, poor standards etc....someone sort this sh#te out! It's a mess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 We need change at all levels but it ain't happening any time soon. The guys in the boardroom are just too happy to sort out cushy deals with business associates. We got hammered 6-1 after taking the lead. That is an absolute disgrace and will do these lads no favours whatsoever, as for people saying McCoist is justified in ignoring the youth- how is that? Our youths beat hearts well easy whilst a few of them were playing the premier division last year then the same youths have helped hearts gallop away in this division. Rangers should be going to teams like Southampton and asking for advice on how to run a youth development program cos it's blatantly obvious our methods do not work Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 2,122 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 We should, above anything else thats been f#cked up in this mess of a journey, got this right. Got the youth sorted. Got hold of some of the best youth available in this country and others with potential from Europe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,804 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 At least we went 1-0 up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,280 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Although it's almost disappointing to see a Rangers team getting defeated in anything, winning and getting results in U20s and youth football is not really that important IMO. The key performance indicator for our youth development is bringing good young players through to the first team, even if it is only one or two every couple of years. Unfortunately, we haven't been very successful at that over the last 10-20years. Then again, you could say that about Scottish football in general. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,003 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Although it's almost disappointing to see a Rangers team getting defeated in anything, winning and getting results in U20s and youth football is not really that important IMO. The key performance indicator for our youth development is bringing good young players through to the first team, even if it is only one or two every couple of years. Unfortunately, we haven't been very successful at that over the last 10-20years. Then again, you could say that about Scottish football in general.I don't know, other clubs seem to be able to do it with a shoestring budget compared to us.Hamilton Accies brought through a few boys who made it to the EPL and netted them millions.Hibs done it with a fair few like Fletcher, Brown and Thomson also netting them a fair few millions.Most recently Dundee United have done it with guys like Gauld.The boy Robertson was right under our nose but we didn't even see it, now playing in England.We for the money we have invested in youth are woeful at bringing through talent. Ferguson was nearly a decade ago while Hutton to a lesser extent a very long time ago too. It seems ever since we upgraded Murray park and invested heavily it's been a big waste of time and money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I see it as a threefold problem.A) Scouting the players to bring to RangersB) Their progression and development from around 15 onwards.C) The lack of opportunites in the 1st team to get that vital experience needed to push on to the next level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 2,122 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Although it's almost disappointing to see a Rangers team getting defeated in anything, winning and getting results in U20s and youth football is not really that important IMO. The key performance indicator for our youth development is bringing good young players through to the first team, even if it is only one or two every couple of years. Unfortunately, we haven't been very successful at that over the last 10-20years. Then again, you could say that about Scottish football in general.Can't agree with that.The lower age groups maybe, the Under 20's is the direct route to the 1st team, the lads deemed unworthy should have been long gone. This should in essense be the cream of the crop?!We've been unsuccessful over the last 10-20 years because it was far harder to break into the team, due to the standards. It should have been totally different this time around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfideldo 4,413 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Although it's almost disappointing to see a Rangers team getting defeated in anything, winning and getting results in U20s and youth football is not really that important IMO. The key performance indicator for our youth development is bringing good young players through to the first team, even if it is only one or two every couple of years. Unfortunately, we haven't been very successful at that over the last 10-20years. Then again, you could say that about Scottish football in general.I agree to a certain extent extent that results don't matter, if there is a pattern and you can see what the aims are. They do matter when you are losing 6-1 to your biggest rivals and those that watched the game will confirm the result could have been any score. Celtic took their foot off the gas, their goalkeeper touched the ball THREE times in the second half.I have already highlighted there are no left footed players in this squad and to throw in a 16 year old right footed centre-back at left back in an under 20's game is shocking and very unfair on the boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfideldo 4,413 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I don't know, other clubs seem to be able to do it with a shoestring budget compared to us.Hamilton Accies brought through a few boys who made it to the EPL and netted them millions.Hibs done it with a fair few like Fletcher, Brown and Thomson also netting them a fair few millions.Most recently Dundee United have done it with guys like Gauld.The boy Robertson was right under our nose but we didn't even see it, now playing in England.We for the money we have invested in youth are woeful at bringing through talent. Ferguson was nearly a decade ago while Hutton to a lesser extent a very long time ago too.It seems ever since we upgraded Murray park and invested heavily it's been a big waste of time and money.You could also add Falkirk have made millions on three players he released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordov 17 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have been warning about the decline under Sinky for quite a while. Some who probably haven't seen any of his teams come on and defend him.Things will only get worse under his tenure.Couldn't agree more, he and his cronies are septic. They are not liked by the players and, as with the first team, they only train....they are not coached. This is a huge problem. People cry for McCoist's head for not bringing through youth when we went to League 2, the truth is the level of player was/is very very poor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 How have all these coaches been able to get 1 year rolling contracts, hopefully who ever is in fucking charge of our club will see that if we are to break even, then for little money spent, we can get great returns from our youth set up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,567 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Fans are calling out for a few of them to be called up to the first team as well! (Stoney, Sinnamon, Gasparotto, Murdoch, Hardie, Stoney & Walsh) - Clearly not ready if they're part of a side that gets skelpt 6-1 from the wee tims.As opposed to the seasoned pros that have a total of 2 points from 5 games against hibs, hearts and alloa? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan cruyff 1 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Has Sinclair not been sacked yet . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The flip side of my previous post is that it is in Allys best interests to get a vibrant squad of youth that have the potential to step up. When the poor quality of the youth has the potential to directly impact first team chances (which it obviously does - as we dont want to continually have to go out to market for players) then it comes under his remit. He surely has to get involved and if he thinks things are lacking then have an opinion and get people moved on.I am not sure Ally has the personality to be the person who instigates a confrontation - and will therefore happy stick to first team matters. Hence the reason we simply appear to limp on with nobody taking overall authority for all matters football at the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan cruyff 1 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Ally mccoist has taken the limelight away from Sinclair, he should be sacked along with ally, get a new manager and you will get a new head of youth, time for change for the better surely . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan cruyff 1 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Sinclair will never resign either bleeding the club dry, he knows his time is up, but we seemingly don't have the money to pay him off, and the c.nt will never resign, sad times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,037 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Charlie Telfer just got voted SPFL young player of the month Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan cruyff 1 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 We shall not rest until Sinclair is gone, he is taking the cash , charlatan, I can assure you he has no love for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfideldo 4,413 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Embarrassed by the club two nights runningCharlie Telfer Scotland's young player of the month, tells it how it isMcCoist and his footballing dinosaurs are still in post the morningTeam's Christmas Night Oot must be sometime soon, I'm sure they have a great time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan cruyff 1 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Sinclairs been embarrassing for quite sometime now, he has to go, the longer we keep him and his cronies in charge the damage he is doing will only get worse, he simply has not got it, and hasn't got the ability or desire to improve our youth players,time for him to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insider 123 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Everything about our club is a shambles.A good man would have it running properly in a year though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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