Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Amen to that! An increasingly difficult, under appreciated role in society. They deserve our praise and support! Story from BBCStirling marchThousands of serving personnel and veterans took place in last year's Armed Forces DayPolice have encouraged the public to attend Armed Forces Day events as normal after reports Islamic State had planned to target a London parade.IS had plotted to detonate a pressure cooker bomb at a parade in Merton, south London, according to the Sun.But the newspaper claimed an IS leader in Syria unwittingly recruited an undercover investigator from the newspaper to carry out the attack.The Sun said the plot failed after it informed police and security services.Police did not confirm the Sun's report but said it was "helpful" when journalists shared information that could indicate terrorist activity.The Sun described the alleged plot as a "suicide" attack, saying IS was intending to strike soldiers from the unit of murdered soldier Lee Rigby.It alleged an IS leader, who it said was originally from Birmingham, told the investigator: "It will be big. We will hit the kuffar (unbelievers) hard InshAllah. Hit their soldiers in their own land."The Merton parade was to be targeted because it was closest to the barracks in Woolwich where Fusilier Rigby, 25, was murdered in May 2013, the newspaper said. Fusiliers from his regiment are to be among some 250 marchers, it added. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 77,390 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I shall be attending an event in Dalkeith.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,110 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 The middle class fashion to look down on the armed forces is incredibly naive and short sighted. Couple that with our east end malcontents and you have a serious risk of undermining our forces to the point they are ineffective longer term. Already we find it difficult to recruit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bothwellbear 1,392 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 The middle class fashion to look down on the armed forces is incredibly naive and short sighted. Couple that with our east end malcontents and you have a serious risk of undermining our forces to the point they are ineffective longer term. Already we find it difficult to recruit.Can we not just support our armed forces without resorting to using it as a point scoring exercise. God bless them in doing the toughest of jobs. Our governments have put them into some ridiculous situations this past decade or so and deserve all the plaudits they deserve. What these men and woman go through is unreal. God bless them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 Can we not just support our armed forces without resorting to using it as a point scoring exercise. God bless them in doing the toughest of jobs. Our governments have put them into some ridiculous situations this past decade or so and deserve all the plaudits they deserve. What these men and woman go through is unreal. God bless them.This! to both points Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Can we not just support our armed forces without resorting to using it as a point scoring exercise.God bless them in doing the toughest of jobs. Our governments have put them into some ridiculous situations this past decade or so and deserve all the plaudits they deserve. What these men and woman go through is unreal. God bless them.Point scoring i've been at Armed forces day many times at Ibrox over the years and i see them more as a thank you to the soldiers.Great days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 If you dont stand behind them then feel free to stand in front of them.The Pride of Britain Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbt1548 1,895 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 The middle class fashion to look down on the armed forces is incredibly naive and short sighted.This has been the case over the past few centuries, it's nothing new unfortunately, and the fashion does indeed seem to be rearing it's ugly head again, not just by, as you correctly state, the middle classes, but those who despise what this country is, (but will still take their benefits), and the Doc Martin, wooly, rainbow jumper brigade, commonly know as plastic socialists.Originally, I believe it stems from a time when, to become a soldier was the only way to either avoid prison or transportation, or it was the only way to get employment and a roof over your head; for very few, apart from the well heeled Commissioned Officers, it was a career. It was probably a combination of these circumstances that caused people in days gone by to look down on our armed forces, there is certainly NO excuse for it now.My own grandfather was a regular in the years before the first world war, carried on, and luckily survived, although died a few years later from the effects of gas, I unfortunately didn't meet him, but my mother told me he was a gentle man, and a simple hard working guy, not the stereotype of societies view of soldiers at that time.My wife's great ,great grandfather was in the army in the 1870's, we still have his pay book, traipsing through India, Egypt , going by the era he was a soldier there is a good chance he was in for one of the reasons mentioned above, but he stuck it out for over 30 years, tales being passed down from him over the generations of how they wouldn't be allowed in pubs because they were soldiers, but how things changed from being looked down upon to being welcomed with open arms when things got a bit difficult for the poor civilian.Members of the armed forces of yesteryear or , maybe more importantly, today, as this is the time we are living, do not deserve to be looked down upon by certain persons or sections in our society, they should be appreciated and warmly thanked for what they do in keeping us all safe.There may come a time, and I certainly hope it doesn't happen, when those looking down on the members of the armed forces may be in a bit of bother and needing help, and who will they go running to to do the dirty work?, the very persons they look down on. They can't see this with their petty prejudices and small mindedness.It is only right and proper that these men and women get the credit they deserve, without them , past and present dear knows where we would be now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I shall be attending an event in Dalkeith..What a place Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,110 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 This has been the case over the past few centuries, it's nothing new unfortunately, and the fashion does indeed seem to be rearing it's ugly head again, not just by, as you correctly state, the middle classes, but those who despise what this country is, (but will still take their benefits), and the Doc Martin, wooly, rainbow jumper brigade, commonly know as plastic socialists.Originally, I believe it stems from a time when, to become a soldier was the only way to either avoid prison or transportation, or it was the only way to get employment and a roof over your head; for very few, apart from the well heeled Commissioned Officers, it was a career. It was probably a combination of these circumstances that caused people in days gone by to look down on our armed forces, there is certainly NO excuse for it now.My own grandfather was a regular in the years before the first world war, carried on, and luckily survived, although died a few years later from the effects of gas, I unfortunately didn't meet him, but my mother told me he was a gentle man, and a simple hard working guy, not the stereotype of societies view of soldiers at that time.My wife's great ,great grandfather was in the army in the 1870's, we still have his pay book, traipsing through India, Egypt , going by the era he was a soldier there is a good chance he was in for one of the reasons mentioned above, but he stuck it out for over 30 years, tales being passed down from him over the generations of how they wouldn't be allowed in pubs because they were soldiers, but how things changed from being looked down upon to being welcomed with open arms when things got a bit difficult for the poor civilian.Members of the armed forces of yesteryear or , maybe more importantly, today, as this is the time we are living, do not deserve to be looked down upon by certain persons or sections in our society, they should be appreciated and warmly thanked for what they do in keeping us all safe.There may come a time, and I certainly hope it doesn't happen, when those looking down on the members of the armed forces may be in a bit of bother and needing help, and who will they go running to to do the dirty work?, the very persons they look down on. They can't see this with their petty prejudices and small mindedness.It is only right and proper that these men and women get the credit they deserve, without them , past and present dear knows where we would be now.Very well put! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar 13,676 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Heading up town. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 If you need to be urged to support this day maybe it's better they just stay at home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 34,057 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Why wouldn't you support them ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer 11 2,824 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 This is one of the few things the yanks seem to get right compared to us as they know how to show respect to their forces Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 No Surrender Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,524 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 class vid from edinburgh the dayhttps://www.facebook.com/butebranch.rbls/videos/762418100476033/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,252 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Jesuissousse.#Jesuissousse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Look at the way Bomber Command were treated after the war due to the handwringers bleating over the bombing of Dresden. Bet the people of Clydebank, Coventry et al weren't complaining. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 1,480 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I personally don't ask for the nation to be proud of what we do, only honour and remember our fallen comrades and support those that pay a price for doing their solemn duty. For Queen & Country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_Side 1,571 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Look at the way Bomber Command were treated after the war due to the handwringers bleating over the bombing of Dresden. Bet the people of Clydebank, Coventry et al weren't complaining.The fact that Germany bombed Britain doesn't really excuse The Dresden firebombings, especially since it had no real effect on the outcome of the war. All it succeeded in doing was killing 20000 people. Maybe the bomber command deserved the way they were treated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 It's great that our troops are finally getting the recognition they deserve however I still think it's a shame that the troops who served in Northern Ireland during the troubles did not get the same support from the Scottish/British public at the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 The middle class fashion to look down on the armed forces is incredibly naive and short sighted. Couple that with our east end malcontents and you have a serious risk of undermining our forces to the point they are ineffective longer term.Already we find it difficult to recruit.Sorry that is just simply not true.At university it was the mainly the more middle class students who partook in the officer training corps. If you were to visit Sandhurst you'd see how middle/upper class the army is. Same can be said for the officer regiments in the air force in navy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,360 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I'm superintendent armed forces day by drinking with Britain's finest. Bad idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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