Tumshie 205 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Can't believe we managed to get Tavernier, Waghorn and Kiernan for 600k from Wigan. Can't believe the transformation of our team in a few short weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 A scouting network should be a given for a club this size but these acquisitions show you that a manager who keeps his eyes open helps as well.Tavernier alone will pull back that fee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,858 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Off their heads selling Cafu for that money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rangers FC 751 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I wonder if any of the signings were based on the data found using the moneyball system at Brentford. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 A scouting network should be a given for a club this size but these acquisitions show you that a manager who keeps his eyes open helps as well.Tavernier alone will pull back that fee.I didn't realise until today that we have got 20 scouts attached to our youth academy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfYeCannae 48 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I wonder if any of the signings were based on the data found using the moneyball system at Brentford. That was part of the reason MW left, because he doesn't agree with that 'model', probably more to do with his knowledge of the game down there and coming up against Wigan with Brentford last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It just you that if you have an eye for a player that you can bag a bargain or two.Tav has all the assuredness and composure of a guy schooled at a top EPL outfit. Kinda like a right sided Ashley Cole.If he keeps playing like he is he will be back to England. I hope all these guys get a move to epl as that will mean we are doing well.We couldnt give any of the diddies away we had last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,102 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Without a scouting network we are obviously relying on recommendations or players the staff already know of are aware of so I wouldn't be surprised if Uwe Rosler recommended Tav & Waghorn to Warburton.Warburton was Rosler's DOF at Brentford and Rosler signed both of them for Wigan when he was there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I didn't realise until today that we have got 20 scouts attached to our youth academy That's really surprising tbh. You any idea whether that's a recent thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 57,000 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It just you that if you have an eye for a player that you can bag a bargain or two.Tav has all the assuredness and composure of a guy schooled at a top EPL outfit. Kinda like a right sided Ashley Cole.If he keeps playing like he is he will be back to England. I hope all these guys get a move to epl as that will mean we are doing well.We couldnt give any of the diddies away we had last year.I'd hope though that he has desire to win titles and compete in europe. As it stands we are the club that can give him that chance. A move to the EPL from us will be to a mid tabled club at best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crombie1873 142 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I didn't realise until today that we have got 20 scouts attached to our youth academy Don't think they are directly employed by Rangers though, is it not similar to what Porto do, they have more than 250 scouts working for them but not actually employed by them.Not sure exactly how it works but I remember reading an article on it a while back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankin1873 69 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 That was part of the reason MW left, because he doesn't agree with that 'model', probably more to do with his knowledge of the game down there and coming up against Wigan with Brentford last year.I think he does agree with the Moneyball system but Brentford wanted to use it solely as their basis for recruitment whereas Warburton uses it along with other things including traditional scouting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 7,085 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 They really don't, no idea how they only managed to sell for that amount to be honest.Crazy stuff.Wigan look destined for mediocrity in league 1 if they don't go down another league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_1974 204 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Assuming that John Eustace signs I think MW will want to secure on loan a fast forward. Probably has someone in mind already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Some players just need to be told and made to feel like they feel at homeYou get clubs who don't appreciate and vice versaThese boys already feel like they are in with a family Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,858 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Assuming that John Eustace signs I think MW will want to secure on loan a fast forward. Probably has someone in mind already.I really don't see the need. We already have a fast forward at the club in Clark. Sure, he needs to work on a few things, but I'd rather we gave him a chance to prove himself under the new management than use a player who isn't permanently ours.Chances are that they won't get a huge amount of game time anyway because Waghorn will be the regular starter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 That's really surprising tbh. You any idea whether that's a recent thing?To be honest mate, I haven't a clue, because it was a bit of a surprise for me. I don't know if they are employed by Rangers directly or by the Academy on a commission basis. Craig Mulholland came in late last year when Sinclair was replaced by the old board, so perhaps he had something to do with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Don't think they are directly employed by Rangers though, is it not similar to what Porto do, they have more than 250 scouts working for them but not actually employed by them.Not sure exactly how it works but I remember reading an article on it a while back.I have just said that in reply to bbb,mate! I think the youth academy could be independent to the senior side of the club, but I wouldn't say for certain. I don't think we have a scouting system for senior players because this was one of the major points that Dave King made when the new board was put in place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ccould it be that their manager just hasn't got a clue ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_1974 204 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I really don't see the need. We already have a fast forward at the club in Clark. Sure, he needs to work on a few things, but I'd rather we gave him a chance to prove himself under the new management than use a player who isn't permanently ours.Chances are that they won't get a huge amount of game time anyway because Waghorn will be the regular starter.Goals win games and I think we need one more up top. Clark misses too many chances. Need someone who will score more often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,858 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Goals win games and I think we need one more up top. Clark misses too many chances. Need someone who will score more often.We have Miller too who looks like he will score alot this season, plus we will only be playing with one striker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 "Can't believe we managed to get Tavernier, Waghorn and Kiernan for 600k from Wigan."What even with that fount of footballing knowhow that is Gary Caldwell in charge. ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBF2 3,540 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 To be honest mate, I haven't a clue, because it was a bit of a surprise for me. I don't know if they are employed by Rangers directly or by the Academy on a commission basis. Craig Mulholland came in late last year when Sinclair was replaced by the old board, so perhaps he had something to do with it.Boy I work with has been doing it for a while, worked under Sinclair so it's at least two years old. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'd hope though that he has desire to win titles and compete in europe. As it stands we are the club that can give him that chance. A move to the EPL from us will be to a mid tabled club at best.If was you or i we would likely stay. But these boys arent fans they are professionals and will ultimately do whats best for their livelihood.I think we will be a stepping stone for some of them. Pretty sure it would be amazing to play in front of 40k fans every other week and potentially Champs League. Not trying to be a debbie downer here but i will enjoy the good players and manager whilst they are here. And hopefully come the day they leave us the infrastructure will be there to allow us to continue building towards being a greater force than we were before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Or their manager could just be a numpty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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