HG5 11,134 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Four assists...who were they against? I can't think of a single instance where this player has produced a goal through innovative play. He hasn't been worth a place in the team. I hope he can step up a gear for the remainder of the season because Mark Warburton seems enamoured with him.Set Holt up for one (QoS away, maybe), Tav at Morton, apparently one v Airdrie.If we're really stretching a point, he hid shuffle it sideways for Waghorn to do the rest with a quite sublime curler to the top corner v Dumbarton, as you say, I wouldn't have described that as 'innovative play'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,134 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Four assists...who were they against? I can't think of a single instance where this player has produced a goal through innovative play. He hasn't been worth a place in the team. I hope he can step up a gear for the remainder of the season because Mark Warburton seems enamoured with him.DP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Set Holt up for one (QoS away, maybe), Tav at Morton, apparently one v Airdrie.If we're really stretching a point, he hid shuffle it sideways for Waghorn to do the rest with a quite sublime curler to the top corner v Dumbarton, as you say, I wouldn't have described that as 'innovative play'.Yes he may have been part of a move that resulted in a goal but I don't see that as an 'assist'. Like that simple wall pass that 'set up' Waghorns goal; my old granny could have played that. Give me one example of where he has created something out of the usual. I think you'll struggle. Obviously he's a skilful player with potential but he isn't worth a place in the team at the moment and I don't get why he is been rated by so many. Hopefully though he'll make me eat my words today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOO72 4,375 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Picking and choosing what counts as an assist to suit an agenda. Ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,134 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Yes he may have been part of a move that resulted in a goal but I don't see that as an 'assist'. Like that simple wall pass that 'set up' Waghorns goal; my old granny could have played that. Give me one example of where he has created something out of the usual. I think you'll struggle. Obviously he's a skilful player with potential but he isn't worth a place in the team at the moment and I don't get why he is been rated by so many. Hopefully though he'll make me eat my words today. Oh, I know mate.Just quoted the examples to show that if he does do something decent, it gets noticed.There ain't that much to go on, though..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvd1873 7,182 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I've not been overwhelmed by him so far. But he can change that starting tonight with a solid winning performance,,,, imo he needs to give and go a lot quicker! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroomloanBear 63 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Pefect example of why managers never give youth a chance in Scotland. If there not a world beater at 18 then lets get on there backs and destroy there confidence. Lets get behind the boy instead of giving him pelters Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camshy 812 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I like Zelalem and you can see his obvious talent but right now his performances have been average, the way we play needs driving midfielders who can move quickly and move the ball quickly......he kills the flow of the game and slows it right down.Cracking wee player but does not merit a starting slot for me, if he were to drive forward and move the ball quickly I'd have him in there in a heart beat but it's obvious Law offers a far better dynamic to the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Four assists...who were they against? I can't think of a single instance where this player has produced a goal through innovative play. He hasn't been worth a place in the team. I hope he can step up a gear for the remainder of the season because Mark Warburton seems enamoured with him.Can you not? You weren't watching the match against Airdrie then. The pass he made that night was as fine a pass for cutting a defence open as you will see anywhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Picking and choosing what counts as an assist to suit an agenda. Ridiculous.Not at all. First I don't have an 'agenda', don't be daft; I have an opinion. I am not going to praise someone for doing something unremarkable. You could equally say labelling a simplistic piece of play an 'assist' to big up a player is part of an 'agenda'...if you were being a twat that is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Can you not? You weren't watching the match against Airdrie then. The pass he made that night was as fine a pass for cutting a defence open as you will see anywhere.I don't remember it, no. Who scored? I'll look up the video and if I've missed an assist of note, I'll hold my hand up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I don't remember it, no. Who scored? I'll look up the video and if I've missed an assist of note, I'll hold my hand up.Waghorn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnclosureBear 2,923 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Don't think today is a type of game you start him in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrox_Nights 429 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I don't think anyone is wrong on Zelalem, just perhaps a little fixated on him being one thing.Zelalem hasn't thus far performed in anyway near the level required to get into the midfield of our team in a normal year, he has so far at this level failed to set the heather alight in a fashion that suggests he's on the cusp of greatness.By the same token he isn't shite either, if you remember Arteta being at us we sold him at a loss, with a few more years under his belt he was worthy of a move to Arsenal and was valued at a pretty penny to boot. Zelalem COULD be in that vein, he'll MAYBE go on to be a very good player but it looks like that will be a few years down the line IF he stays on course in that direction.All in all he is a young player who may or may not reach heights, we're not going to see the best of him but we might bring him on a bit and get the odd turn out of him if we're lucky. Off topic, always amazed we sold Arteta for the price we did. Really baffled me that one. Anyone could see he had that bit of quality about him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Nicky Law starts. Zelalam on the bench. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Waghorn.Fair enough. That was a very good pass and it was an 'assist' I'd not registered. More of that and I'd be happy but the reality is Zelalam has produced very little. If he had been a youngster from Auchenhowie, rather than one from a big club in the BPL, I think most would be saying he isn't ready for the first team. Looking at that goal though it made me think about why I'm dubious about these 'assists'. If Waghorn had played a cross and someone else scored then Zelalam's very good bit of play wouldn't have been an assist; seems daft. If done properly some goals would have more than one player and others none at all; I don't think the last player should get an assist to his name automatically just because he was the last player to touch the ball. Zelalam's simple pass for Wagorn to score from a long range shot is an example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centenarystand 2,227 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 On Monday Zelalem had his best game of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,424 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 We need men in the team at the minute not boys Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Clearly a bunch of racists in this thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,717 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I love how Nicky "Invisible" Law has gone from being the player most wanted dropped and as far away from the club as possible to a sudden viable option in our midfield. Ten minutes here and there doesn't make a good player.+-Our top goal scorer last season.........Zelalem - I remember one shot so far this season, give me the invisible man. At this time it's a no brainer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 He has a good quick touch and can often pick out a good pass.I think we would all be calling Zelalem an amazing player if the ball was played to him, he played a quick pass / pinpoint pass outside the box to "a striker" and the striker takes a shot. Obviously they wouldnt always go in or be on target even but we would praise Zelalem for the assist and accuracy of his pass.Instead the scenario is usually along the lines of ball to Zelalem, pass to McKay, back to Zelalem, finds Halliday, forward to Miller, back to Zelalem, to Waghorn, to McKay, to Zelalem... etc. And the rival teams can read it.pretty much the case. We were more direct against Hibs so hopefully we dont go back to the tippy tappy stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Keeping him is the right decision. He's not the best player we have, but he's up there. Letting him go back would be lunacy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 pretty much the case. We were more direct against Hibs so hopefully we dont go back to the tippy tappy stuff.Aye we all long for the 'direct' play of the McCoist era. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I think because of the role he plays we could easily overlook his attributes. His ability to hold on to the ball is under-rated, in my opinion. Keeping possession is important, and this player keeps possession better than any in the team. He is a very good footballer, and a great player in the making. Making the direct pass is hard when there is a congested area, but even then we can overlook what he brings, because some of his short passes are good. Where I think he would be better is if he took his opportunities in front of goal better. He is very good at making space for himself, another sign of a very good player, but when he has made that space he has not shown the composure he needs to have. He will make it at Arsenal, or a team of that calbre; I'm certain of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Aye we all long for the 'direct' play of the McCoist era.far from it but the opposition have been forcing us into mistakes. We need to have someone take men on to get to the by line or split the defence by running through. The opposition limit our space and force passing errors. We are not good enough to pas the balls through defences. We also need to break out of our defence quicker . Too many players hang back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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