Siam69 27,881 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36350220 Probe into 'appalling' disorder after Hibs win Scottish Cup 13 minutes ago From the section Glasgow & West Scotland The Scottish Football Association has said it was "appalled" by scenes of disorder after Hibs' historic victory over Rangers in the Scottish Cup final. Fans spilled on to the pitch after the Edinburgh side beat the Ibrox club 3-2 with a late goal in injury time. Rangers said some of their players and staff were assaulted. The club has condemned what it described as the "disgraceful behaviour of Hibs fans". The SFA said a full investigation into the crowd trouble would be carried out. Police Scotland described the behaviour of some fans as "totally unacceptable and inexcusable". The force said a dedicated investigation team was being set up to identify those involved in acts of disorder and violence. Hibs chairman Rod Petrie told BBC Scotland what happened was "deeply disappointing". Scottish Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan said: "Scottish FA is appalled by the scenes of disorder on the field immediately after full time and at the contemptible behaviour that ensued. "What should have been an historic, memorable Scottish Cup final will now, sadly, be remembered for all the wrong reasons. "The Scottish FA, along with Police Scotland and the stadium management have initiated a full investigation into the scenes that unfolded to understand how such a volume of supporters were able to enter the field." Rangers said some of their players and staff had been assaulted by Hibs fans as they tried to leave the pitch. The team received their runners-up medals in the dressing room. As Hibs fans returned to the stands part of the pitch was ripped up and the goal posts were broken by people climbing on them. The invasion delayed the presentation of the trophy and there was no lap of honour by the Hibernian players. A statement from Rangers condemned the "disgraceful behaviour of Hibs fans". A spokesman said: "Rangers players and staff were assaulted by these fans who invaded the pitch and in the interests of their safety could not return to the pitch for the medal presentation. "There can be no place for the violent behaviour witnessed at the end of the final and Rangers fully expect the Scottish Football Association and Police Scotland to launch an investigation to find out where security measures failed. "The club would like to commend Rangers fans for the restraint they showed under severe provocation." In a post match interview with BBC Scotland, Hibs chairman Mr Petrie said: "It is deeply disappointing that this happened. It shouldn't have happened. "The images should have been about the club celebrating the win as opposed to any other aspect of it. "The fact that it has happened, then you have to look at what the response was to it and the response seemed to be entirely professional, to contain the incursions on to the pitch and eventually to put people back into their seats." Ch Supt Kenny MacDonald of Police Scotland said: "Officers, including the force's mounted branch, responded and brought the matter under control as quickly as possible. "We understand that feelings run high at these events and fans want to celebrate their team's win, however the reckless behaviour of fans entering the pitch is totally unacceptable and inexcusable. This created a significant safety issue. "This action led to an outbreak of disorder between rival fans on the pitch. A dedicated investigation team is being set up to identify those who have carried out these acts of disorder and violence." Police horses were last needed at the 1980 Scottish Cup final between Celtic and Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,624 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Last two paragraphs sum up this whore of a country Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueballss 3,036 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 designated to scour over cctv on the mount florida end more like Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueretro 704 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, Siam69 said: Police horses were last needed at the 1980 Scottish Cup final between Celtic and Rangers I was at that game as well. Maybe it's all my fault! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom0411 1,229 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 So was I so it was my fault too Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,932 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I thought the police and stewards got it spot on yesterday by nipping a potential drama in the bud, just imagine if the Hibs fans had got on to the park they may have assaulted our players and tried their utmost to spark a full scale riot, maybe even break the goalposts,our country is in safe hands with these fine fellows stepping instantly up to the mark. Tell you what, amateur don't even come close, where did they go for the horses? Aintree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 The policing of the game was ABSOLUTELY pathetic. They were not prepared for a pitch invasion and the problems posed by it. Ch Supt Kenny MacDonald of Police Scotland said: "Officers, including the force's mounted branch, responded and brought the matter under control as quickly as possible. Laughable and sad if he was actually happy with the policing. After watching blow after blow being struck by fans on the pitch with no sign of order being restored I left the stadium and watched the police riot vans sitting in traffic hoping the trouble would be over by the time they arrived. While I admit no police force could have prevented the hibs fans pitch invasion their is no doubt the hibs fans blatant goading of the Rangers end would have come to nothing if the police had been active rather than belatedly reactive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboscot 1,204 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I've been at plenty of matches where, near the end, the polis and stewards have marched in and made themselves a heavy human barrier between crowd and pitch. Obviously, to physically restrain thousands of people running onto the pitch is impossible but it always seemed to work as a visual/psychological deterrent. As has been said already, there were plenty of bodies available, they just didn't bother deploying them where and when they were needed to prevent these muppets causing a near riot and embarrassing themselves to a global audience. SFA/polis/stewards and hibs all need to be held accountable for that. If and when arrests are made, I would hope that they have the book thrown at them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPapac05 3,383 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 They're going to need a huge team to try and work out how they're going to pin the whole affair on the Rangers fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 36 minutes ago, ianferguson said: The policing of the game was ABSOLUTELY pathetic. They were not prepared for a pitch invasion and the problems posed by it. Ch Supt Kenny MacDonald of Police Scotland said: "Officers, including the force's mounted branch, responded and brought the matter under control as quickly as possible. Laughable and sad if he was actually happy with the policing. After watching blow after blow being struck by fans on the pitch with no sign of order being restored I left the stadium and watched the police riot vans sitting in traffic hoping the trouble would be over by the time they arrived. While I admit no police force could have prevented the hibs fans pitch invasion their is no doubt the hibs fans blatant goading of the Rangers end would have come to nothing if the police had been active rather than belatedly reactive. This cunt Kenny McDonald's should get his jitters for this .It was a fuck up .The horses came from the Mount Florida end .Strangely none from Hivs end .There would be no need for Police on horses over at the other end obviously .Our club simply have to go on the attack here .If they don't .They fail us all . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I watched a guy punch someone to the ground early doors ,be pulled away by a policemen only to turn round and floor another guy. The fact that he wasn't arrested maybe encouraged other fans to join in as the few police there were only wanted to keep fans apart rather than actually lift someone for assault which would have acted as a deterant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I found this video on you tube at 00:15 you can see where hibs fans breached security and get onto the pitch. I don't think security expected a breach at the Hibs end. The focus was on the Rangers end. Once the horses got on to the pitch Hibs fans were contained quickly but it's the time before that where security failed our players. Hibs fans should never have been able to reach players leaving the pitch. We still don't know how bad their injuries are or whether they can play. The media also have a responsibility in this by fanning the flames of hatred towards Rangers. There is a need for guidelines on how they report and the use of emotive language in their stories. so that this hatred is defused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyd09 390 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 13 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Last two paragraphs sum up this whore of a country So true Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 13 hours ago, Siam69 said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36350220 Probe into 'appalling' disorder after Hibs win Scottish Cup 13 minutes ago From the section Glasgow & West Scotland The Scottish Football Association has said it was "appalled" by scenes of disorder after Hibs' historic victory over Rangers in the Scottish Cup final. Fans spilled on to the pitch after the Edinburgh side beat the Ibrox club 3-2 with a late goal in injury time. Rangers said some of their players and staff were assaulted. The club has condemned what it described as the "disgraceful behaviour of Hibs fans". The SFA said a full investigation into the crowd trouble would be carried out. Police Scotland described the behaviour of some fans as "totally unacceptable and inexcusable". The force said a dedicated investigation team was being set up to identify those involved in acts of disorder and violence. Hibs chairman Rod Petrie told BBC Scotland what happened was "deeply disappointing". Scottish Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan said: "Scottish FA is appalled by the scenes of disorder on the field immediately after full time and at the contemptible behaviour that ensued. "What should have been an historic, memorable Scottish Cup final will now, sadly, be remembered for all the wrong reasons. "The Scottish FA, along with Police Scotland and the stadium management have initiated a full investigation into the scenes that unfolded to understand how such a volume of supporters were able to enter the field." Rangers said some of their players and staff had been assaulted by Hibs fans as they tried to leave the pitch. The team received their runners-up medals in the dressing room. As Hibs fans returned to the stands part of the pitch was ripped up and the goal posts were broken by people climbing on them. The invasion delayed the presentation of the trophy and there was no lap of honour by the Hibernian players. A statement from Rangers condemned the "disgraceful behaviour of Hibs fans". A spokesman said: "Rangers players and staff were assaulted by these fans who invaded the pitch and in the interests of their safety could not return to the pitch for the medal presentation. "There can be no place for the violent behaviour witnessed at the end of the final and Rangers fully expect the Scottish Football Association and Police Scotland to launch an investigation to find out where security measures failed. "The club would like to commend Rangers fans for the restraint they showed under severe provocation." In a post match interview with BBC Scotland, Hibs chairman Mr Petrie said: "It is deeply disappointing that this happened. It shouldn't have happened. "The images should have been about the club celebrating the win as opposed to any other aspect of it. "The fact that it has happened, then you have to look at what the response was to it and the response seemed to be entirely professional, to contain the incursions on to the pitch and eventually to put people back into their seats." Ch Supt Kenny MacDonald of Police Scotland said: "Officers, including the force's mounted branch, responded and brought the matter under control as quickly as possible. "We understand that feelings run high at these events and fans want to celebrate their team's win, however the reckless behaviour of fans entering the pitch is totally unacceptable and inexcusable. This created a significant safety issue. "This action led to an outbreak of disorder between rival fans on the pitch. A dedicated investigation team is being set up to identify those who have carried out these acts of disorder and violence." Police horses were last needed at the 1980 Scottish Cup final between Celtic and Rangers. As i came out after the game Crowds of Police were at our end laughing and joking as supporters told them they needed to be at the other side or inside the stadium. They were to busy watching the big bad Rangers and gaurding the wee side streets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam English Loyal 945 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 "Dedicated investigation" Aye. Right now they're dedicatedly investigating how to blame this on Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirFleckNRothen 1,789 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Too little; far, far too late. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,715 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 The ball is fully in the court of the Rangers Board now. There's plenty of evidence of the attacks on our players and staff. If they sit back and allow the SFA/Police to 'investigate' this debacle on their own terms,it will be played down and buried. The media,in particular,the BBC need pressed to tell the whole truth and not be allowed to 'hide' important evidence from the authorities. The evidence is fully in place that we as a people,as supporters of Rangers Football Club,are to be demeaned,demonised and mocked. I await the outcome of the official investigation but I won't hold my breath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Blumhoilann said: The ball is fully in the court of the Rangers Board now. There's plenty of evidence of the attacks on our players and staff. If they sit back and allow the SFA/Police to 'investigate' this debacle on their own terms,it will be played down and buried. The media,in particular,the BBC need pressed to tell the whole truth and not be allowed to 'hide' important evidence from the authorities. The evidence is fully in place that we as a people,as supporters of Rangers Football Club,are to be demeaned,demonised and mocked. I await the outcome of the official investigation but I won't hold my breath. I can't see this being dropped, the security breach happened at the national stadium. No matter how Mr Reagan tries to pass the buck, he and the SFA are ultimately responsible for ensuring player safety. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy cox 664 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sons just off the phone to the plod and asked for crime report number and was told they cant give him it as they need to establish a crime took place ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
one55 1,510 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 here's a head start http://imgur.com/a/Vgnf0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 24 minutes ago, one55 said: here's a head start http://imgur.com/a/Vgnf0 in the picture where Wallace is being attackedf, what's the black thing wrapped around the guys hand who's punching him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstamomusa 3,812 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 20 minutes ago, sammy cox said: Sons just off the phone to the plod and asked for crime report number and was told they cant give him it as they need to establish a crime took place ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyJardineStunner 4 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Ultimately the SFA should get the book thrown at them - it is their event and security was insufficient to stop all this happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 The police need a fkn internal investigation, the incompetent pricks. Too focussed on the Rangers end to realise what was unfolding and to make a proper decision regarding a full deployment of police and stewards to the hibs end. As for the security, it was all old men and blacks who probably can't get a job elsewhere and they're not going to get involved as its just appearance money. Overall the police commander has full authority over everyone and like other grounds where mass tragedys have happened he or she has failed miserably and really should be stepping down. This must also be the last nail in the coffin for regan but wee know the green brush will be sweeping into action. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 They should include a report on why there were 5 vans of police parked on Cathcart Road watching Rangers fans instead of getting every man to the stadium to protect Rangers fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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