gogzy 31,195 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: Was a good call that mate - I know you don't take bannings lightly but he was a real bad egg that one If I took bans lightly, quite a few reeking posts ITT would have me swinging away with the hammer. K.A.I 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bydo 3,265 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Apologies if I've missed it, but has a transcript of the letter been posted yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bydo said: Apologies if I've missed it, but has a transcript of the letter been posted yet? I'm posting it when home I've not had a phone to upload picture past few days some lowlife stole it on the construction site I was working on but got a new one today Bydo and lutonblue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bydo 3,265 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Just now, K.A.I said: I'm posting it when home I've not had a phone to upload picture past few days some lowlife stole it on the construction site I was working on but got a new one today Cheers, boss. giffnockger and K.A.I 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Here's what it says on the T&C's. 3.4 is the relevant bit. https://rangers.co.uk/images/staticcontent/tickets/ST1516/ST_TC1516.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, The Dude said: Here's what it says on the T&C's. 3.4 is the relevant bit. https://rangers.co.uk/images/staticcontent/tickets/ST1516/ST_TC1516.pdf If I've read that right it doesn't give them the right to remove a season ticket whilst under criminal investigation it says where a breach in policy but if no guilt has been established how can they enforce that ? Unless there's something I've no read properly or misread? I'm on a phone and heaving to zoom in and skwint Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, K.A.I said: If I've read that right it doesn't give them the right to remove a season ticket whilst under criminal investigation it says where a breach in policy but if no guilt has been established how can they enforce that ? Unless there's something I've no read properly or misread? I'm on a phone and heaving to zoom in and skwint 3:4 https://rangers.co.uk/images/staticcontent/tickets/ST1516/ST_TC1516.pdf Quote Any Season Ticket obtained or used in breach of the Ground Regulations shall be automatically void and all rights conferred or evidenced by such Season Ticket shall be nullified. Any person seeking to use a Season Ticket in breach of the Ground Regulations may be refused entry to, or ejected from, the Stadium in respect of a particular Match and/or may have his/her Season Ticket cancelled or withdrawn. In the event of any cancellation and withdrawal in accordance with this clause 3.4, no refund shall be payable to the Holder in respect of any unexpired portion of the Season Ticket. The Club further reserves its right to take any legal or disciplinary action against any person(s) as it sees fit in connection with such matters, including a claim for an account of any profits made from an unauthorised use of the Season Ticket. That seems to relate to the use of season tickets at Ibrox, not a Cup Final game at another stadium where one of the accused might not be a season ticket holder - but he's banned from Ibrox regardless. ritchieshearercaldow and Courtyard Bear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,242 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Just now, Virtuoso said: 3:4 https://rangers.co.uk/images/staticcontent/tickets/ST1516/ST_TC1516.pdf That seems to relate to the use of season tickets at Ibrox, not a Cup Final game at another stadium where one of the accused might not be a season ticket holder - but he's banned from Ibrox regardless. That's how I read it, only concerned with games at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three stripes 411 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Start by saying I have no problem with the 1000s of hibs fans who ran on the park ffs you see it all the time in English football. The ones I do have a problem with are the cunts who ran by the half way line and tried it on and the cunts who went after our players. There the ones who should be getting banned,there the ones who should be getting jailed. As far as I'm concerned not one rangers supporter should plead guilty because they were under severe provocation. Any half decient lawyer could nail the police and stewards for being useless and rangers fans had to go on the park to look after our own and they'll have 1000s of witnesses to back them up. As for the letter banning rangers fans ave said it before over to club1872,lets see if they have any balls????? lutonblue and Courtyard Bear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,480 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 41 minutes ago, gogzy said: Thats plenty cunt. You're done here. So it's bye bye to stokesey then..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 That's all good and well but how to they even know regulations have been breeched even for that when there's no trial and no invite to Ibrox to out their defence forward no matter how it's turned I just can't see how it's justified ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,242 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm still waiting for the polis to be condemned or punished for their behaviour, they had a duty to protect the public, they failed massively. Three stripes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,278 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: That's all good and well but how to they even know regulations have been breeched even for that when there's no trial and no invite to Ibrox to out their defence forward no matter how it's turned I just can't see how it's justified ? Unless they consider being on the park at all as a breach? Maybe they do, but if so it's a fucking nonsense going from that initial statement, to banning people before their case has even been heard. William McBeath 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, K.A.I said: If I've read that right it doesn't give them the right to remove a season ticket whilst under criminal investigation it says where a breach in policy but if no guilt has been established how can they enforce that ? Unless there's something I've no read properly or misread? I'm on a phone and heaving to zoom in and skwint It gives them the right the remove it if the ground regulations are breached. Entering the park ticks that box. Rangers have no obligation to prove criminal guilt over an allegation to revoke a ST. If it's then proven to be false then it's up to the club the lift the ban, but again they've no obligation to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Just now, graeme_4 said: Unless they consider being on the park at all as a breach? Maybe they do, but if so it's a fucking nonsense going from that initial statement, to banning people before their case has even been heard. They will because it is. William McBeath 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,278 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, The Dude said: It gives them the right the remove it if the ground regulations are breached. Entering the park ticks that box. Rangers have no obligation to prove criminal guilt over an allegation to revoke a ST. If it's then proven to be false then it's up to the club the lift the ban, but again they've no obligation to. Makes a bit of a mockery of their initial (strong) statement, and the fact that thousands of Hibs fans aren't currently banned though. ritchieshearercaldow, Courtyard Bear, K.A.I and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 57 minutes ago, gogzy said: Thats plenty cunt. You're done here. Next up, this cunt: Cunts were stalking me: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,278 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: They will because it is. Initial statement from the club is very misleading in that case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Graeme and The Dude he's plead not guilty to the breach of the peace in relation to even being on the park so it's still back to square one - how can they do that until there's been a guilty returned ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, graeme_4 said: Makes a bit of a mockery of their initial (strong) statement, and the fact that thousands of Hibs fans aren't currently banned though. The Hibs fans are largely irrelevant to this from the club's perspective although it does now give them the 'high ground' when it comes to appearing in front of the SFA (as I explained last night) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 16 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: 3:4 https://rangers.co.uk/images/staticcontent/tickets/ST1516/ST_TC1516.pdf That seems to relate to the use of season tickets at Ibrox, not a Cup Final game at another stadium where one of the accused might not be a season ticket holder - but he's banned from Ibrox regardless. That's misuse of your ST, nothing to do with anything else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,278 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Graeme and The Dude he's plead not guilty to the breach of the peace in relation to even being on the park so it's still back to square one - how can they do that until there's been a guilty returned ? No idea - that's what makes it a nonsense. If the letter said his ticket was suspended pending an investigation, or the club hadn't initially defended those on the park, then I could understand it. Makes a mockery or the judicial process, and the integrity of the board IMO. K.A.I 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,242 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, The Dude said: They will because it is. Not in all cases. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: That's misuse of your ST, nothing to do with anything else. My point exactly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Graeme and The Dude he's plead not guilty to the breach of the peace in relation to even being on the park so it's still back to square one - how can they do that until there's been a guilty returned ? They don't need to. If he's been arrested on the pitch, for example, that's all that's needed for the club to revoke. It's like if you get papped out for singing or something and not even arrested. That's enough for them to revoke it if they want Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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