Rangers starting to hang their fans out to dry

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said:

What are the number of reasons? 

Why not wait until each individual has had his case heard in the court? 

So you agree then that club have been cunts over this and should reconsider their stance. 

I've made them clear a few times over the threads. When we appear infront of the SFA we can show we've taken necessary steps to avoid a repeat/further issues and After the club's statement there's been more than a few who have been shown to have went beyond "protecting players etc"

[graeme_4 34,660]

11 minutes ago, The Dude said:

They were arrested. Rightly or wrongly, that's all it needs. 

Pish. If your wrongly arrested, and you're actually innocent of said crime then that's enough? Gees peace troll. 

[The Dude 20,026]

2 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

Pish. If your wrongly arrested, and you're actually innocent of said crime then that's enough? Gees peace troll. 

Go have a look at the terms and conditions. Being ejected from Ibrox without even being arrested is enough for them to revoke a ST. 

[scouseblue 145]

I really feel for the lads who are banned and really hope that justice prevails but this is common enough practice south of the border and has been for some time . I'm  not siding against the lads just saying there is certainly a precedent and I would think you'd struggle to argue it's prejudicial . 

 

 

[graeme_4 34,660]

8 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Go have a look at the terms and conditions. Being ejected from Ibrox without even being arrested is enough for them to revoke a ST. 

No one was ejected from Ibrox. 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, graeme_4 said:

No one was ejected from Ibrox. 

I never said they were I Was giving an example of other things which can result in a ban.

[Real Ranger 3,195]

9 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Go have a look at the terms and conditions. Being ejected from Ibrox without even being arrested is enough for them to revoke a ST. 

That may be true but surely it would be wrong to revoke a ST unless they're  aware of all the facts, same at hampden

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, Real Ranger said:

That may be true but surely it would be wrong to revoke a ST unless they're  aware of all the facts, same at hampden

What fact do they need to be aware of other than that they were arrested (the reason given for the ban)?

[Real Ranger 3,195]

Just now, The Dude said:

What fact do they need to be aware of other than that they were arrested (the reason given for the ban)?

Does arrested = guilty?

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

21 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said:

Look at that @Courtyard Bear - D'Art writes a blog about it, people start pressuring C1872 to act on the issue and before you know it, C1872 are 'looking into to'.

Almost as if action, rather than inaction, works.....

1872 should be leading the way on this, it's what they are there for. 

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, Real Ranger said:

Does arrested = guilty?

No. It doesn't need to. An arrest is sufficient reason to withdraw.

[Real Ranger 3,195]

Just now, The Dude said:

No. It doesn't need to. An arrest is sufficient reason to withdraw.

That might be in the terms and conditions Dude but surely it's only right that the club wait to find out if they are actually guilty  before punishing them.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

21 minutes ago, The Dude said:

I've made them clear a few times over the threads. When we appear infront of the SFA we can show we've taken necessary steps to avoid a repeat/further issues and After the club's statement there's been more than a few who have been shown to have went beyond "protecting players etc"

No you haven't you've quoted T&C's, the SFA have said they won't go forward with their enquiry until all the police enquiry is finished, what's good for the goose and all that. 

Ive already said if the courts find them guilty and hand out banning orders then Rangers should uphold that ban but give them a refund of the ST and resell it. 

[The Dude 20,026]

2 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

No you haven't you've quoted T&C's, the SFA have said they won't go forward with their enquiry until all the police enquiry is finished, what's good for the goose and all that. 

Ive already said if the courts find them guilty and hand out banning orders then Rangers should uphold that ban but give them a refund of the ST and resell it. 

Why would Rangers be seen to refund people who committed a criminal act and brought the club into disrepute?

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

Why would Rangers be seen to refund people who committed a criminal act and brought the club into disrepute?

Because they backed them with one hand before the ST sale, then stabbed them in the back with the other hand after the sale. 

[jaywalker 377]

Does anyone know how many people have had their season ticket revoked.

were these people only on the pitch or are they accused of violent offences

[The Dude 20,026]

12 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

Because they backed them with one hand before the ST sale, then stabbed them in the back with the other hand after the sale. 

When were they arrested and when was the letter sent?

What date did they but a ST?

[graeme_4 34,660]

In fairness if you're found guilty of a crime and banned, you can't expect a refund.

I have issue with people being slapped with an 'indefinite ban' without having any recourse, while also pleading not guilty and denying having even been on the park and awaiting trial. 

Rangers have shafted the guy in this particular example. 'Suspended pending investigation' is what should have happened. 

And that's not even touching on the hypocrisy of the board in backing the fans, selling the tickets and then banning them before the league has even started.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

3 minutes ago, The Dude said:

When were they arrested and when was the letter sent?

What date did they but a ST?

Statement released before ST sale no mention of bans for anyone on the pitch or for being arrested, ST sale over bans handed out. 

 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, Courtyard Bear said:

Statement released before ST sale no mention of bans for anyone on the pitch or for being arrested, ST sale over bans handed out. 

 

So when did they buy a ST vs when was the letter sent? 

 

What offences are those who received letters charged with?

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

And I'm done in this thread as well. 

[sammy cox 664]

17 minutes ago, The Dude said:

So when did they buy a ST vs when was the letter sent? 

 

What offences are those who received letters charged with?

Come on now Sir.Surely you don't think that after they got a letter telling them that their season ticket if they had one would be taken off them with no refund they then went into ibrox and paid for that said ticket.

[The Dude 20,026]

3 minutes ago, sammy cox said:

Come on now Sir.Surely you don't think that after they got a letter telling them that their season ticket if they had one would be taken off them with no refund they then went into ibrox and paid for that said ticket.

That's not what I said whatsoever. 

 

They may have bought their ST been arrested then banned. Fans are still being arrested now over the final. 

[Gascoigne8 3,378]

5 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said:

The club has no reputation to protect???? Strange statement! 

How far does a fan have to err for them to be banned? Let's say they are causing disruption at a game - probably not enough to get a criminal conviction but certainly spoiling it for others - do the club do nothing? 

 

Read the whole post in its context you fuckin wrong yin. Every thread you appear on turns into a lefty circle wank because of your vanilla outlook on things.  So they shouldnt have been on the park, rangers fans shouldnt have reacted, rangers are right to ban people without the right to be heard or the right to representation, rangers are right to have taken these guys books away without refunding them, rangers are right to do this, rangers are right to do that, ive had a season book for 30 years...........

 

 

 

You come across as if you havn't had a day off in 30 years ya banger.  K.A.I is right. Your just an antagonistic fuckstick

[The Godfather 72,053]

That's a no to the Bp9 fan club then!