mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 A hard fought win tonight with us picking up the 3 points and moving to level points in 2nd place. What is worth noting is that it is another clean sheet for us. Am I right in saying that we have conceded 10 goals this season, with 5 of those coming in the abomination of an old firm game? If so, this means that in the other 12 games, we have conceded only 5 goals. The defence aint the greatest, its pretty poor, especially against the better teams in the league, but is it our biggest weakness? I cant help but feel that we still have a problem up front. Waghorn just does not work out wide IMO. Dodoo if anything looks a better bet and god knows what happening with O'Halloran. We have all the possession in the world, but just dont carve out enough real chances. In saying that, things are starting to look a little more rosy. Niko in particular looks like he is really coming onto a game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Although he lacks pace and is far from perfect, Hill's experience seems to have a very calming influence on our back line. We seem to do better when he plays IMO......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Kiernan is aids. Wilson has been decent, Hill too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORCHARD LOYAL 119 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Clint hill and Wilson best 2 for centre back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, In Dungeons Deep said: Kiernan is aids. Wilson has been decent, Hill too. Did you watch the ICT game, Kiernan (not a fan) was solid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, ORCHARD LOYAL said: Clint hill and Wilson best 2 for centre back This ^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, siddiqi_drinker said: Did you watch the ICT game, Kiernan (not a fan) was solid. Yes I did. He has not idea how to position himself and does not know how to mark a player, most of ICT's attacks were due to the fact the man is completely brain dead when it comes to defending. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORCHARD LOYAL 119 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Wilson suits the football philosophy of playing from the back although still not the best defender. Clint Hill steady (weir esque) no frills centre back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,284 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Did you watch the ICT game, Kiernan (not a fan) was solid. That chance he afforded them about 3 minutes in.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, In Dungeons Deep said: Yes I did. He has not idea how to position himself and does not know how to mark a player, most of ICT's attacks were due to the fact the man is completely brain dead when it comes to defending. Oky I get it he's a shite player so lets blame him for every defensive mistake even in a game where he performed well. Fair summation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 They still get caught out too often by simple balls in behind. Poor finishing from ICT got us off the hook Make those mistakes next week and we'll be punished again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Sportingintegritymyarse said: That chance he afforded them about 3 minutes in.... And after that??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, siddiqi_drinker said: Oky I get it he's a shite player so lets blame him for every defensive mistake even in a game where he performed well. Fair summation? No, I'll blame him for every mistake he makes which just so happened to be pretty much all of them. He's in the top 5 worst centre backs I've ever saw pull on a Rangers top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,311 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 We're now in the era of micro analysis where every idiot thinks there a football manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,813 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Hill's definitely making a difference. Wilson and Kiernan both need a defender like that beside them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,284 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: And after that??? The 3 great chances they had should have been punished. General play from the back was OK on the whole, the chances we, our defence too, gifted were criminal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,284 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Big Al II said: We're now in the era of micro analysis where every idiot thinks there a football manager. they're....... Regards A literate football manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerDurden 21 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Really worry for us at the back against the scum, we looked poor at the back against Linfield never mind tonight, really don't know who I would play at the back against them.... they are a step up in pace and quality, up front, from anyone else in the league. Any decent young pacy centre backs we could throw in at the deep end? Ross McCrorie? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,311 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Sportingintegritymyarse said: they're....... Regards A literate football manager. Because that's relevant Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,855 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I will take clean sheets any day of the week, but there were at least 2 occasions when they had free headers in the box and we were nowhere to be seen. As a defensive unit I do see signs of improvement but still lots to work on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Big Al II said: We're now in the era of micro analysis where every idiot thinks there a football manager. That's a very fair point. Especially with the technology available today, and the ability to rewind, pause, upload every single bit of footage within seconds of the action taking place, it's so easy to over analyse every single piece of play. Of course we're not perfect but you could easily pick the bones out of mistakes, errors and things the Real Madrid's of this world could do a lot better....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,284 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Big Al II said: Because that's relevant Yes. Fifa 17 managers should be grammatically strong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 We are still terrible at set pieces and long balls humped up the park. The free headers for ict tonight could have cost us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,311 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: That's a very fair point. Especially with the technology available today, and the ability to rewind, pause, upload every single bit of footage within seconds of the action taking place, it's so easy to over analyse every single piece of play. Of course we're not perfect but you could easily pick the bones out of mistakes, errors and things the Real Madrid's of this world could do a lot better....... We fixate on the negative and ignore the positive and wonder why we're fucking miserable Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson1872 2,923 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 The defence has been criticised for months now about crosses into the box, tonight I would bet my left nut that we cleared more than double maybe even triple those we didn't clear. Wes was commanding as well, generally I thought we defended well tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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