The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, East Enclosure Row N said: What areas of the ground get opened for U20s games? Normally the enclosure Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 http://www.gotthebattlefeveron.com/2017/1/17/14294194/u20s-rangers-0-1-celtic Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dangerously 7,562 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 How did we play? Unlucky or were we poor? Edit - just seen above Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyrfc11 24 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Dude said: Can't agree there at all.Barjonas, Thomson, Burt, Beerman, Ashmore all look really good prospects Theres many you can make a case for, Burt being best out of ones you mentioned,some players have the talent but not the right mentality to make it just been very dissapointed with our youth Set-Up for long time we should be able bring through 1 or 2 players season who are good enough play week in, week out for us. Maybe i just expect too much know things have changed andwe are trying new things lets hope it all works out for the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyrfc11 24 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Johnny Dangerously said: How did we play? Unlucky or were we poor? Edit - just seen above Score was only 1-0 but we never played well at all deserved to lose the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Read it was a defensive error by the Bates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Smile said: Read it was a defensive error by the Bates. Him and McCrorie both out of position. Bates never covered the gap left by McCrorie and Miller got inbetween them. Cheap goal to concede, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, craigyrfc11 said: Theres many you can make a case for, Burt being best out of ones you mentioned,some players have the talent but not the right mentality to make it just been very dissapointed with our youth Set-Up for long time we should be able bring through 1 or 2 players season who are good enough play week in, week out for us. Maybe i just expect too much know things have changed andwe are trying new things lets hope it all works out for the best. I don't really know of any club in world football who can bring kids through every season who play week in week out and challenge for trophies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyrfc11 24 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: I don't really know of any club in world football who can bring kids through every season who play week in week out and challenge for trophies. Many clubs achieve it on similar budgets to ourselves like feynoord,Dinamo ,malmo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: I don't really know of any club in world football who can bring kids through every season who play week in week out and challenge for trophies. It's almost impossible the most I can see are one or two we will have to buy the good Players of the likes of Hearts and Hibs who get a better chance to develope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,147 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, craigyrfc11 said: Many clubs achieve it on similar budgets to ourselves like feynoord,Dinamo ,malmo. Aye? Other than the Dutch cup the other year it was 2008 they last won the cup and about 2000 since the league title. Throw in a uefa cup which was won with Edwin Zoetebier Christian Gyan Tomasz Rząsa Paul Bosvelt (C) Bonaventure Kalou Kees van Wonderen Pierre van Hooijdonk Jon Dahl Tomasson Shinji ono Patrick Paauwe Robin van Persie It isn't really the all conquering youth setup of a dominating side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, craigyrfc11 said: Many clubs achieve it on similar budgets to ourselves like feynoord,Dinamo ,malmo. One or two youth players step up every year and play week in week out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,603 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, The Dude said: Him and McCrorie both out of position. Bates never covered the gap left by McCrorie and Miller got inbetween them. Cheap goal to concede, Assuming it was Calvin Miller? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Assuming it was Calvin Miller? Aye. Their best player today. No sign of Dembele or that Norwegian wonderkid they signed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyrfc11 24 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Aye? Other than the Dutch cup the other year it was 2008 they last won the cup and about 2000 since the league title. Throw in a uefa cup which was won with Edwin Zoetebier Christian Gyan Tomasz Rząsa Paul Bosvelt (C) Bonaventure Kalou Kees van Wonderen Pierre van Hooijdonk Jon Dahl Tomasson Shinji ono Patrick Paauwe Robin van Persie It isn't really the all conquering youth setup of a dominating side. Currently top Eredivise with 5 points and in Europe every season not exactly failure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,603 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Aye? Other than the Dutch cup the other year it was 2008 they last won the cup and about 2000 since the league title. Throw in a uefa cup which was won with Edwin Zoetebier Christian Gyan Tomasz Rząsa Paul Bosvelt (C) Bonaventure Kalou Kees van Wonderen Pierre van Hooijdonk Jon Dahl Tomasson Shinji ono Patrick Paauwe Robin van Persie It isn't really the all conquering youth setup of a dominating side. Always remember Tomasson on LMA 2003 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 32 minutes ago, craigyrfc11 said: Theres many you can make a case for, Burt being best out of ones you mentioned,some players have the talent but not the right mentality to make it just been very dissapointed with our youth Set-Up for long time we should be able bring through 1 or 2 players season who are good enough play week in, week out for us. Maybe i just expect too much know things have changed andwe are trying new things lets hope it all works out for the best. I tend to lean towards your way of thinking mate, it doesn't seem like there are any real gems in our youth setup at the moment. Outwith Gilmour, McCrorie brothers and Burt. However I think given the turmoil, lack of investment/structure the youth setup has had up until 18 months ago - I think we need to give it a little more time for it to bear any fruits. It was neglected for years by Ally and the previous board, also they've implemented a new philosophy which is designed to accelerate young players progression to senior football. Adjustment to this new strategy has been longer than we'd all like but think we need to allow it time to grow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,147 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, craigyrfc11 said: Currently top Eredivise with 5 points and in Europe every season not exactly failure. They haven't been in Europe every season. Feyenoord had went incredibly poor for a period of time. So as they sit 5 clear the now. That's it then? World beaters? Their are no real massive outlays in Holland like there used to be so the gap with all clubs is coming down. Herenveen won't be far away from challenging again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,603 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: Aye. Their best player today. No sign of Dembele or that Norwegian wonderkid they signed. Only ever seen him play once, won best player that was born in '98 or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Oh well atleast the consistency at all levels is there-losing to the tims Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 32 minutes ago, craigyrfc11 said: Many clubs achieve it on similar budgets to ourselves like feynoord,Dinamo ,malmo. Are any of them up against a club as rich or as successful as Celtic are domestically though? Feyenoord have effectively won nothing for years. Your argument would be ok if it was Aberdeen and Hearts we were competing with in Scotland but it's not, it's a club bigger and richer than any of the rivals of those clubs mention with exception of Ajax and PSV, even then, neither of them are as successful or dominant domestically as Celtic are just now. We have many fans looking for special, cheap, time consuming ways of getting back where we were when the answer is the staring us right in the face and it is the only answer. Money. We need money. We need a board able and willing to find the money we need to compete with Celtic. Moonbeams of bringing kids through and toppling them are utter garbage. Only 2 things will stop Celtic and that is buying quality players and appointing a manager who knows what he is doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,147 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just had a look and in the last two seasons feynoord have spent around 12 million on players with guys like Dirk kuyt flung in who would be on big wages Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,588 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Do we ever beat them a t any level? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 13 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: They haven't been in Europe every season. Feyenoord had went incredibly poor for a period of time. So as they sit 5 clear the now. That's it then? World beaters? Their are no real massive outlays in Holland like there used to be so the gap with all clubs is coming down. Herenveen won't be far away from challenging again I wouldn't mind being 5 points clear at the moment. Just saying like ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ivybank said: Do we ever beat them a t any level? Did we not beat them in the Hong Kong masters last year or year before? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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