hummington 52 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I think it is to do (at least in part) with an examination of recent seasons gate receipts. I suspect they have had a general downturn in theirs whilst we languished in the Championship where we have gradually seen an increase since the King takeover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mongoose 1,007 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I am not 100% sure but I think the rates are calculated on Turnover each year for some premises....even so this would make it worse as surely the beggars with 100,000 at each home game would have a bigger turnover. I know one businessman who is raging about Glasgow City Council here is his article in The Herald http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15089932.SNP_accused_of_putting_independence_before_jobs_and_business/?ref=fbshr  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabawsa 888 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, mearns loyal said: Almost forgot about the school that took up a large area at the midden that was bulldozed to make way for a car park. Must be one of the few companies in the world that has considerably increased its land holding and pays less rates on the new supersized stadium footprint than before... Surely the money being generated by the parking has been taken into account ?    London Road Primary School whicjh was a listed building and ignored for years so they could bulldoze and landgrab with impunity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,709 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 hours ago, mearns loyal said: Almost forgot about the school that took up a large area at the midden that was bulldozed to make way for a car park. Must be one of the few companies in the world that has considerably increased its land holding and pays less rates on the new supersized stadium footprint than before... Surely the money being generated by the parking has been taken into account ?  Schools ! Graveyards ! The more land they plunder the less they pay ! The Romans have been doin it from time immemorial ! It's called empire building ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital Blu 615 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I think it is worthwhile looking at the historical rateable values to get the real picture, at least as far as Rangers is concerned. The SSA.gov website provides that historical information. https://www.saa.gov.uk/search.php?SEARCHED=1&SEARCH_TABLE=valuation_roll_cpsplit&SEARCH_TERM=150+Edmiston+Drive%2C+glasgow&x=8&y=9&DISPLAY_COUNT=10&ASSESSOR_ID=&TYPE_FLAG=CP&ORDER_BY=PROPERTY_ADDRESS&H_ORDER_BY=SET+DESC&UARN=L348600150&PPRN=47229888&ASSESSOR_IDX=6&DISPLAY_MODE=FULL_HISTORY#results Rangers assessment for Ibrox was £1,916,000 in 2010. Charles Green (I assume) managed to negotiate it down to £1,000,000 in June 2012. It then went up to £1,100,000 in April 2013. It then looks as if there was an attempt to reinstate the RV to £1,916,000 in August last year, but it ended up back at £1,100,000. If it is going up to £1,270,000, then it is still well below what it was before the club went into administration. --------------------------- In the East end, their RV was assessed as £1,995,000 in April 2010, but fell to £1,900,000 on appeal, then a year later on further appeal went down to £1,800,000 in April 2011. The reported drop to £1,580,000 seems surprisingly generous and is worthy of further scrutiny. https://www.saa.gov.uk/search.php?SEARCHED=1&ST=&SEARCH_TERM=kerrydale+street&ASSESSOR_ID=&SEARCH_TABLE=valuation_roll_cpsplit&x=0&y=0&DISPLAY_COUNT=10&TYPE_FLAG=CP&ORDER_BY=PROPERTY_ADDRESS&H_ORDER_BY=SET+DESC&UARN=L948000095+00005&PPRN=47189843&ASSESSOR_IDX=6&DISPLAY_MODE=FULL_HISTORY#results Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,602 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 hours ago, The Mongoose said: I am not 100% sure but I think the rates are calculated on Turnover each year for some premises....even so this would make it worse as surely the beggars with 100,000 at each home game would have a bigger turnover. I know one businessman who is raging about Glasgow City Council here is his article in The Herald http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15089932.SNP_accused_of_putting_independence_before_jobs_and_business/?ref=fbshr  Yes voters create there own nightmare Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,674 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 9 hours ago, East Enclosure Row N said: Ibrox - up £170,000 Piggery - DOWN £220,000!  When will the corruption in this city cease? Many businesses in disbelief at the rate rises this year. Look at this list;  I'd appeal telling them they worked the equation out wrong as David Murray sold us for a pound. Failing that write a note saying Rangers are deed!" The inbreeds would probably agree and forgoe the rates to fuel their obsession. Seem long shots but no less bizzare than the fantasy tax dodges companies like Amazon use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,958 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Sulla said: Scandalous. Remember this at the ballot boxes, bears. That's part of the reason they've done it....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,145 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Bastards, just think what King could have not spent that money on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Pzj should be all over this. Â Â And shouldn't our rates come down drastically because we don't have a safety certificate? More bullshit from the gobblegiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 11 hours ago, scottyscott1963 said: The result of giving fenians access to financial matters. Especially the cunts with sticky fingers. They will do there damndest to thieve the national team from hampden.   Thats whit thier doing mate its happening before our eyes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 hours ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Schools ! Graveyards ! The more land they plunder the less they pay ! The Romans have been doin it from time immemorial ! It's called empire building ! Ma maw just to tell me at said the bastards always got buiried to take up mare land Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Capital Blu said: I think it is worthwhile looking at the historical rateable values to get the real picture, at least as far as Rangers is concerned. The SSA.gov website provides that historical information. https://www.saa.gov.uk/search.php?SEARCHED=1&SEARCH_TABLE=valuation_roll_cpsplit&SEARCH_TERM=150+Edmiston+Drive%2C+glasgow&x=8&y=9&DISPLAY_COUNT=10&ASSESSOR_ID=&TYPE_FLAG=CP&ORDER_BY=PROPERTY_ADDRESS&H_ORDER_BY=SET+DESC&UARN=L348600150&PPRN=47229888&ASSESSOR_IDX=6&DISPLAY_MODE=FULL_HISTORY#results Rangers assessment for Ibrox was £1,916,000 in 2010. Charles Green (I assume) managed to negotiate it down to £1,000,000 in June 2012. It then went up to £1,100,000 in April 2013. It then looks as if there was an attempt to reinstate the RV to £1,916,000 in August last year, but it ended up back at £1,100,000. If it is going up to £1,270,000, then it is still well below what it was before the club went into administration. --------------------------- In the East end, their RV was assessed as £1,995,000 in April 2010, but fell to £1,900,000 on appeal, then a year later on further appeal went down to £1,800,000 in April 2011. The reported drop to £1,580,000 seems surprisingly generous and is worthy of further scrutiny. https://www.saa.gov.uk/search.php?SEARCHED=1&ST=&SEARCH_TERM=kerrydale+street&ASSESSOR_ID=&SEARCH_TABLE=valuation_roll_cpsplit&x=0&y=0&DISPLAY_COUNT=10&TYPE_FLAG=CP&ORDER_BY=PROPERTY_ADDRESS&H_ORDER_BY=SET+DESC&UARN=L948000095+00005&PPRN=47189843&ASSESSOR_IDX=6&DISPLAY_MODE=FULL_HISTORY#results Excellent post mate, nothing better than cold hard facts being brought to a conjecture party. So Chuckles managed to reduce our old rates by nearly 50%?? Can't believe the 'tarrier infested' GCC let him away with that.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertContraband 282 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 12 hours ago, East Enclosure Row N said: Ibrox - up ÂŁ170,000 Piggery - DOWN ÂŁ220,000! Â When will the corruption in this city cease? Many businesses in disbelief at the rate rises this year. Look at this list; Â Not heard about this til now. Is it a annual review? Have they always payed more than us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don54 25,576 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 15 hours ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: How businesses are affected by the revaluation: Details of draft rateable values have now been published on the Scottish Assessors’ Association website. What matters during a revaluation is whether your rateable value (the notional rent at a fixed point in time) has gone up or down relative to the national average. Broadly, businesses in areas or industries doing well should expect their rateable values to increase, and firms in depressed areas should expect them to decrease. However, even small changes to your rateable value could make you eligible for – or disqualify you from – rates relief. ------- Anyone seen the regeneration over the last 7 years around bheast stadium? Commonwealth village, roads infrastructure, the stadium. They even managed to host ceremonies at the Games. Despite this the bheast figure has reduced, despite their on going events calendar. This council and government are corrupt to the core. ------'' "Welcome to the Celtic Park Events page Proud host venue of Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games Opening Ceremony Celtic Park is now recognised as one of Europe’s top stadia and premier event venues. Aside from world class football our unique venue, exceptional staff and state of the art facilities provide the perfect platform to create an outstanding event for you and your guests. With executive boxes overlooking the pitch, bespoke suites and spacious lounges, whether you are hosting a meeting for 2,dinner for 600 or a concert for thousands we can tailor a bespoke package whilst maximising your budget. At Celtic Park our flexibility, attention to detail and unique spaces offer a unique experience & each can be utilised individually or simultaneously to facilitate larger conferences, seminars or workshops. Situated just 2 miles from Glasgow City Centre & 20 minutes from Glasgow International Airport, Celtic Park is easily accessed by train, bus or via the excellent Glasgow motorway network and benefits from stewarded car parking for over 800 cars. Whether it’s a meeting, exhibition, concert, Christmas party or wedding you will be guaranteed a world class experience at Celtic Park producing a memorable event every time." Just don't bring your kids Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom0411 1,228 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 16/02/2017 at 8:56 PM, scottyscott1963 said: They will do there damndest to thieve the national team from hampden.   It's already started the Rebel had big article last week about Hampden not fit for purpose. It said that Ibrox or the Stydome should be used with the article very sublety putting the emphasis on the Stydome. No doubts tha's the beginninf of the dripping tap syndrome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Founding Fathers 54 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 2/16/2017 at 9:15 PM, shirob1213 said: Snp headquarters Edinburgh down 34%. From £19431 to £12908. Now thats a shocker...not! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,997 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Tom0411 said: It's already started the Rebel had big article last week about Hampden not fit for purpose. It said that Ibrox or the Stydome should be used with the article very sublety putting the emphasis on the Stydome. No doubts tha's the beginninf of the dripping tap syndrome. Did not read the article but you can be sure this will be the start of the media pushing for the piggery to be the full time venue once Hampden is scrapped. Surely the SFA should do a deal with Murryfield and keep a neutral venue for cup finals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Founding Fathers 54 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 2/17/2017 at 8:46 AM, BertContraband said: Not heard about this til now. Is it a annual review? Have they always payed more than us?  The over-valuation on that heap of breeze blocks is done for accountancy reasons. It makes their books look better but it means their Non-domestic rates are higher. Who in their right mind would value that piggery more than Ibrox, unless it's a case of malfeasance by Glasgow's Catholic Co-operative? Edit- Its seems to center a lot on these "independent" valuations they get. Maybe that should be looked into? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 What can we do about it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,466 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jack The Flipper said: What can we do about it? Mibee you could go into the City Chambers and scare them with your hard to hide stauner.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just now, TEFTONG said: Mibee you could go into the City Chambers and scare them with your hard to hide stauner.? I'd probably be offered a job Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,466 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just now, Jack The Flipper said: I'd probably be offered a job Burst in on a meeting and declare "a full open investigation into financial doping and the cover up of child abuse at the tattie dome NOW" Then batter your boner down on the table to bring the meeting to a close...Sorted.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, TEFTONG said: Burst in on a meeting and declare "a full open investigation into financial doping and the cover up of child abuse at the tattie dome NOW" Then batter your boner down on the table to bring the meeting to a close...Sorted.. Â meeting closed, shower time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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