cushynumber 25,178 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, AlCapone said: I'd suggest its you that needs to do the thinking, they don't do admin like they used to Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, A.T.G said: Aye you can laugh, but think of how much money Sky gets from Scottish subscribers. They give us absolutely fuck all in comparison to how much revenue they get from us Are you saying all Scottish subscribers subscribe because they have Scottish football and would leave if the dropped it? where people live have no relevance, it's what they buy the product for that's important Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I only watch Scottish matches on Sky. I have caught the BBC's coverage of the English Championship and, to be honest, have not been overly impressed by the standard, yet they are getting transfer fees we can only dream of. Even the EPL, apart from the top half dozen or so clubs leaves a lot to be desired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, AlCapone said: Are you saying all Scottish subscribers subscribe because they have Scottish football and would leave if the dropped it? where people live have no relevance, it's what they buy the product for that's important I dare say there is a whole lot of fans in Scotland who pay for Sky Sports to watch Scottish football. Majority of them being Old Firm fans. Pouring in millions every month and they give nothing back. I only paid Sky Sports to watch Rangers games. I realise many more will watch it for the English league but if it comes down to it, I'd rather watch Sky illegally than keep pumping millions into the English league Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, A.T.G said: I dare say there is a whole lot of fans in Scotland who pay for Sky Sports to watch Scottish football. Majority of them being Old Firm fans. Pouring in millions every month and they give nothing back. I only paid Sky Sports to watch Rangers games. I realise many more will watch it for the English league but if it comes down to it, I'd rather watch Sky illegally than keep pumping millions into the English league Well 'i'll put it to you another way, Sky have 12 million customers in the U.K. and Oirland. If the SPL moved exclusively to Bt sports how many customers would they lose? If the EPL moved exclusively to BT sports how many would they lose? Both products are paid what they are worth to Sky as a whole,they are in the open market Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, AlCapone said: Well 'i'll put it to you another way, Sky have 12 million customers in the U.K. and Oirland. If the SPL moved exclusively to Bt sports how many customers would they lose? If the EPL moved exclusively to BT sports how many would they lose? Both products are paid what they are worth to Sky as a whole,they are in the open market You would hope that most Scottish football fans would choose to leave, which would cost them millions of pounds every month. You're not wrong, it would all depend if fans could live without Sky. As long as homes in Scotland are paying it, then nothing will change Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Corky True Legend said: I only watch Scottish matches on Sky. I have caught the BBC's coverage of the English Championship and, to be honest, have not been overly impressed by the standard, yet they are getting transfer fees we can only dream of. Even the EPL, apart from the top half dozen or so clubs leaves a lot to be desired. The English Championship is a far better standard than our league. I dare say if you put any of the teams from our league, with the exception of us and the tarriers, down there for a season they would be relegated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Virtuoso said: Norwegian football is dire as fuck and hardly commands large viewing figures, yet they rake in almost twice as much as us. Any idea where the English Championship would rank on this list, if included? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: The English Championship is a far better standard than our league. I dare say if you put any of the teams from our league, with the exception of us and the tarriers, down there for a season they would be relegated. record low points and highest negative goal difference ever Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: The English Championship is a far better standard than our league. I dare say if you put any of the teams from our league, with the exception of us and the tarriers, down there for a season they would be relegated. In your opinion. I have seen nothing of note; mind you I do not watch it regularly. As many loose passes and punts up the park as we had under Ally! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWAC 2,353 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I've never paid for sky and never will. Whether you like it or not, Sky is a major factor why the scottish league has declined. Our own authorities are and have been shite for a long time but Sky have created their own monopoly. The useless cants in charge of our game were never able to deal with that. Sky pump the money in, the clubs buy players and sky sell subscriptions, it's a self fulfilling business model for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,919 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I'd rather pay it to watch English games, than have every single Barca and Real Madrid match tbf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, Corky True Legend said: In your opinion. I have seen nothing of note; mind you I do not watch it regularly. As many loose passes and punts up the park as we had under Ally! You'll see loose passes and long balls no matter what league you watch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,932 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 My daughters boyfriend installed kodi for me and I can get wall to wall football foc, to be perfectly honest I have watched next to nothing apart from every minute of every Rangers game, if we are not playing regardless of the "superstars" on show I will give it a miss, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,490 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1.) Scottish football is shite. People outwith us and them whining and greeting are the same people who voted us down and cried about a reduced TV deal. 2.) The diddy teams of this country fucked that original SKY deal. Where we would be now if they had not is anyones guess. Richer and better off is my guess. 3.) No broadcaster is going to pay over the odds to watch Kilmarnock take 200 fans to home games. I'm sorry but they get better from Northern Irish league football. 4.) Nobody outside of Scotland cares about Scottish football other than the us and them. Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen can belch all they like but they are diddy teams at the end of the day. No one cares about them unless they are playing the top dogs in this country (proof of this is 2015 and the continuous TV courage we get/got even in the part time divisions) The quicker Rangers negotiate their way out of these crap TV deals and run their own packages the better. I'd happily pay £5 per away match if i knew my money was going to my club and not the rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, kanjo said: 1.) Scottish football is shite. People outwith us and them whining and greeting are the same people who voted us down and cried about a reduced TV deal. 2.) The diddy teams of this country fucked that original SKY deal. Where we would be now if they had not is anyones guess. Richer and better off is my guess. 3.) No broadcaster is going to pay over the odds to watch Kilmarnock take 200 fans to home games. I'm sorry but they get better from Northern Irish league football. 4.) Nobody outside of Scotland cares about Scottish football other than the us and them. Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen can belch all they like but they are diddy teams at the end of the day. No one cares about them unless they are playing the top dogs in this country (proof of this is 2015 and the continuous TV courage we get/got even in the part time divisions) The quicker Rangers negotiate their way out of these crap TV deals and run their own packages the better. I'd happily pay £5 per away match if i knew my money was going to my club and not the rest. As the SFA own the fixture list, there is no way we can negotiate our own deals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 The only tv I subscribe to is rtv. No way I would pay sky or bt to watch anything. Vipleague loyal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 How can he work for Sky Sports and get it so arse about elbow? I've seen Scottish football and they're paying way too much for it. That's why I've been boycotting Sky since 2012. Actually, Scottish football should be paying for the privilege of being broadcast. There's absolutely no need to force that on the public. It's worse than living under ISIS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Hadji Spit RFC 756 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 British League Setup (not going to happen): Premier League Championship North premiership South league 1 North championship South league 2 North league 1 South league 3 etc etc so winners of the Scottish premier are promoted into the British (current English) championship. Tin hat on.... thoughts?! ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 11 hours ago, jim white's a bear said: I've never paid for sky and never will. Whether you like it or not, Sky is a major factor why the scottish league has declined. Our own authorities are and have been shite for a long time but Sky have created their own monopoly. The useless cants in charge of our game were never able to deal with that. Sky pump the money in, the clubs buy players and sky sell subscriptions, it's a self fulfilling business model for them. Weird stance on Sky considering your username is a tribute to one of their most famous faces.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 10 hours ago, kanjo said: 1.) Scottish football is shite. People outwith us and them whining and greeting are the same people who voted us down and cried about a reduced TV deal. 2.) The diddy teams of this country fucked that original SKY deal. Where we would be now if they had not is anyones guess. Richer and better off is my guess. 3.) No broadcaster is going to pay over the odds to watch Kilmarnock take 200 fans to home games. I'm sorry but they get better from Northern Irish league football. 4.) Nobody outside of Scotland cares about Scottish football other than the us and them. Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen can belch all they like but they are diddy teams at the end of the day. No one cares about them unless they are playing the top dogs in this country (proof of this is 2015 and the continuous TV courage we get/got even in the part time divisions) The quicker Rangers negotiate their way out of these crap TV deals and run their own packages the better. I'd happily pay £5 per away match if i knew my money was going to my club and not the rest. I don't think Scottish football is any worse to watch than most English games. It's all about the sex-appeal, if we had the money to fund bigger stadiums and attract better players then maybe we could start building up games the way Sky/BT do. That's the reason they get half the viewing figures, they build every single live game up to be on par with a cup final. A starting point would be a better TV deal but ultimately what we really need is the part-timers who only buy tickets when Rangers are in town, to start buying season-tickets and put money into their clubs. Until such times, it's going to die on it's arse, we'll be looking at crowds below 500 soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 2,018 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 14 hours ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Yep all the way bAck to farry and his chocolate biscuits, mind as bad as he was he was better than Reagan Farry and co were incompetent. The current lot are incompetent and corrupt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Might better if we find someone to run Scottish Football that knows what the fuck they are doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Honestly I've never read so much pish, Scottish football is paid what it is worth. The rights are there to be bid for on an open market to ensure a fair price and that's what we get. stop blaming the English wealth on Sky as if they have created it, theEPL is the worlds premier football league which is why they are paid their worth to cable and satellite companies. Sky only pay them anpbout 25% of media revenues earned Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 It's almost as if Scottish football devalued itself about 5 years ago and nobody takes it seriously any more or is even fussed about showing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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